Rossi's NASA Test Fails to Launch (E-Cat)

New Energy Times ^ | 2/10/2012 | Steven B. Krivit

[Johnny B.]

Andrea Rossi, an Italian man who claims to have invented a practical low-energy nuclear reaction device, will not have his device tested and evaluated by NASA. In the past year, Rossi has had mixed success in gaining support at two NASA laboratories: Langley Research Center in Hampton, Va., and Marshall Space Flight Center in Huntsville, Ala.

[muawiyah]

No, I'm havinng trouble figuring out why you haven't contacted ICE about this guy ~ obviously if he succeeded in immigrating he did so fraudulently.

REPORT HIM!

Get back with us with the news eh.

[exDemMom]

The smallscale sanitary incinerator/co-power generation device appears to have been a real device he invented to make quite a bit of money with.

It was a device. And it was real. But it is incapable of cold fusion. I suspect that if any kind of reaction is going on at all inside the device, it is purely a chemical reaction. Of course, powering it up with a generator makes me doubt if even a chemical reaction is occurring in the eCat.

No, I'm havinng trouble figuring out why you haven't contacted ICE about this guy ~ obviously if he succeeded in immigrating he did so fraudulently.

REPORT HIM!

For what? Isn't he currently in Italy?

[exDemMom]

Thank you for the ping!

It looks like the carefully constructed house of cards is beginning to wobble on its unstable foundation. It’ll be fun to see how it crumbles!

[Johnny B.]

The smallscale sanitary incinerator/co-power generation device appears to have been a real device he invented to make quite a bit of money with.

According to the prosecution, he never converted any waste into fuel. It was, in fact, a money-laundering scheme. Any money he made was from his co-conspirators, who were also convicted btw.

[muawiyah]

He goes back and forth. But that doesn't matter. If he obtained an immigration visa fraudulently even if he later achieved citizenship they can strip him of citizenship and deny him further visas. He can be deported.

So, DO IT. Tell us about it after you've done so.

[CodeToad]

Even though the article explains that Rossi FAILED to provide any level of proof to NASA, the likes of Kevmo will continue to claim NASA is interested in Rossi and that gives Rossi credibility somehow.

[exDemMom]

I just finished reading the whole article, and it was fascinating. I had wondered how a man who is unemployed and apparently without any source of income could both finance the R&D necessary to produce a working system (accepting his device as genuine, for sake of my argument), and afford to travel extensively. But this little passage answered a lot:

After three more weeks, on July 6, Rossi offered to sell international licenses for rights to manufacture "products based on Andrea Rossi’s E-Cat invention" for € 40.5 million ($53 million) per factory, through his affiliate, Defkalion.

All Rossi needs is one gullible investor who desparately wants to believe him, and Rossi is set. He can afford all the shipping containers and plumbing hardware he wants for his "demonstrations."

Looking at the picture of the "eCat" (posted in the section "Synopsis of Report #4), I am stricken by one thing: the "eCat" consists of brand-new pieces of plumbing attached to corroded old pipes. Why is that?

Anyway, once again, thanks for the ping.

[CodeToad]

Rossi's nuclear manufacturing business address (hehe):

The old scam artist is using a 5th floor Miami Beach address to run this scam. What a JOKE!

[CodeToad]

“So, DO IT. Tell us about it after you’ve done so.”

What an argumentative idiot you really are. You make a challenge that you know isn’t going to work but you want to claim his statements about Rossi couldn’t be true since the government didn’t do anything about such a report.

I don’t know what makes you such a gullible idiot when it comes to Rossi but it really works.

[CodeToad]

If you really want to laugh at the ridiculous nature of Rossi’s claims just ask yourself how does a person allegedly produce a nuclear device without licensing, NRC approval, etc. in an apartment? I mean, if a person really did have anything nuclear whatsoever, the feds, NRC, EPA, State agencies, etc., would be on that person’s doorstep inside the hour. Rossi? Nothing. Not a peep.

[muawiyah]

The issue is whether or not the Italian press can be believed. Remember that Foxy Knoxy is out of prison ~ but the press was ready to burn her at a stake.

I think we have a bit of that in the background, plus the wholely inexplicable fact that Rossi managed to immigrate to America, become a citizen, and commit all those crimes he's supposed to have commited.

I'm saying that if YOUR EVIDENCE is any good it should be sufficient to get his citizenship removed and get the man deported. So do it.

[CodeToad]

“I’m saying that if YOUR EVIDENCE is any good it should be sufficient to get his citizenship removed and get the man deported. So do it.”

I see, you dumb enough to think just because one of us makes such a report that he will be deported. Something tells me you actually believe the federal government is perfect and will take the appropriate actions each and every time something like this is reported.

You obviously do not know the law, much less anything else. Just because a naturalized person commits a crime does not mean they automatically lose their citizenship.

Why don’t you report him and see just how far you get.

[Johnny B.]

The issue is whether or not the Italian press can be believed.

I'll take their word (along with the Italian Justice Department) over Rossi's any day.

I suppose you believe that O. J. Simpson is innocent, just because he says so?

I think we have a bit of that in the background, plus the wholely inexplicable fact that Rossi managed to immigrate to America, become a citizen, and commit all those crimes he's supposed to have commited.

Please share with us the dates he got his visa(s), and when he became a U. S. Citizen (if he actually did). The timing of those events could explain a lot.

I suppose that you also believe that O. J. Simpson really is innocent, just because Simpson said so?

[muawiyah]

Hey, I think the Knox girl was innocent ~ the Italian press didn't and they still don't.

And you?

[muawiyah]

Code Toad, as you know people commit immigration fraud every day ~ and some of them get instate tuition right there in your very own state ~ and you approve of that.

So, no I don't think the federales are perfect, but if your Italian newspaper articles are sufficiently truthful (highly doubtful) you should be able to bring an end to Rossi's American chapter.

Just do it.

[muawiyah]

BTW, isn’t the prosecutor who went after the Knox girl the same dude who went after Rossi?

[exDemMom]

If you really want to laugh at the ridiculous nature of Rossi’s claims just ask yourself how does a person allegedly produce a nuclear device without licensing, NRC approval, etc. in an apartment? I mean, if a person really did have anything nuclear whatsoever, the feds, NRC, EPA, State agencies, etc., would be on that person’s doorstep inside the hour. Rossi? Nothing. Not a peep.

Come on, let's be fair. Most of us have a miniscule nuclear device--more than one, even--in our homes, and we have yet to have the NRC storming our abodes. Smoke detectors contain about a millicurie of Americium.

Seriously, though, that's an excellent point. There are strict regulations covering radiation usage. People who use radioemitters are subject to frequent inspection by various regulatory authorities (usually quarterly; it can be more often), where every surface in the laboratory is checked for radioactive contamination, records documenting all radiation usage are checked thoroughly, and supplies of radioisotopes are checked against the inventory lists. Using certain isotopes subjects people to personal monitoring, as well--in that case, all of the dosimetry records are also inspected. Plus, all personnel working with radiation must undergo frequent training and demonstrate periodically (bi-annually, I believe, but it's been a while) that they have a fairly thorough knowledge of radiation. Working with radiation can be a real pain. However, it is sometimes the only reliable and quantifiable way to generate experimental data.

I wonder if Rossi would even be able to answer the most basic radiation question--such as, how is a half life calculated? Considering his (probably fake) "Master's Degree in Philosophy", I doubt it.

[count-your-change]

I don't want to see Rossi’s visa, i what to see his e-cat. You know the one that is changing the world with new paradigms and no gamma rays, the one that will debut either in six months, twelve months or eighteen months or never at all.

Yeah, the one that will light darkest Africa and change the energy equation of the world.

Visa? Who cares? I want to see the robotic factories or even one workable model, ONE!

Visa? who cares? If Rossi can do what he claims he can be president, he can be king, he can fly around the room like a Tweety Bird!

Where are the water heaters? Where are the independent tests?

[muawiyah]

All good questions and no doubt will be answered in due course. But that isn't the point here. We are investigating the legitimacy of the data used to portray this guy as an arch criminal.

I think you can show how good that data is if you can get him stripped of citizenship and deported. Otherwise, who knows.

The other questions ~ startworking on them if you want. There are other things much more entertaining than digging through someone's salespitch.

[muawiyah]

All good questions and no doubt will be answered in due course. But that isn't the point here. We are investigating the legitimacy of the data used to portray this guy as an arch criminal.

I think you can show how good that data is if you can get him stripped of citizenship and deported. Otherwise, who knows.

The other questions ~ startworking on them if you want. There are other things much more entertaining than digging through someone's salespitch.