Skip to comments.What the Mailman Knows About Ayers and Obama
Posted on 03/19/2012 2:00:28 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome
"Hulton also recalls one particular conversation with Mary Ayers. "She was enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student that they were helping out," he tells Corsi, "and she referred to him as a foreign student." Adds Hulton, "I was taken aback by how enthusiastic she was about him." Within a year of this conversation, Hulton had a fateful meeting with the young man he presumed Mary was talking about.
According to Hulton, he encountered the fellow on the sidewalk on the front of the Ayers home. In that it was extremely rare to see a black man in this tony neighborhood, Hulton believes that the man felt the need to explain his visit to the Ayers household. Hulton describes him as friendly and neatly, although casually, dressed. Hulton tells Corsi, "I am absolutely positive that it was Barack Obama."
Hulton was sympathetic. After he had come out of military service, he was a supporter of Martin Luther King, who had pressed for fair housing in the Chicago area in the 1960s. "I took some flak about my support for civil rights from my fellow workers at the time," remembers Hulton.
Obama explained to Hulton that he had taken the train out from Chicago to Glen Ellyn in order "to thank the Ayers family personally for helping him with his education." What shocked Hulton was that when casually inquiring into the young man's plans for the future, Obama answered, "I am going to be president of the United States." As Hulton tells Corsi, "[i]t came across like this was something that's already been determined." Adds Hulton, "I was speechless."
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It sure seems like no matter what is discovered about Obama the MSM just sticks to its script. It stinks on ice how completely in the tank for him they are! The guy could grow devil horns on his head and they’d never even ask him why he’s always wearing a hat.
They don’t want to see it, they don’t want to hear it, and they certainly don’t want to say anything bad about Obama, EVER! All the while they constantly seek to dig up dirt on Republicans.
But a foreign student might have all sorts of birth certificate and selective service registration problems. Or some such.
I know, I linked the article to my facebook page and immediately a “friend” posted a response with a link to a 10 point article by Media Matters. I simply told him that I knew he was too smart to fall for that and then pointed out the important part of the article regarding Edward Said.
I do know that Ayers claims to be the author of “Dream Of My Father”.
Then there’s this story been around for awhil;
What if I told you that you will have a black president very soon and he will be a communist? she said. Well, you will; and he will be a communist.
would answer why he said he was going to be president with no doubt.
This indicates that Obama was identified early by Frank Marshall Davis and handed off to the Ayers’ in Chicago for grooming and development into what would be the Left’s Trojan Horse in taking the US in the direction of socialism and collectivism. The young Barack, a not particularly bright, but nevertheless engaging and articulate young black man who seemed eager to please in exchange for a free ride to the top, made the perfect empty vessel for his handlers to pour their ideology into. Hence the inexplicable admissions into Columbia and Harvard Law (apparently bankrolled by the Ayers and other), the ceremonial appointment as president of the HLR (for which he never wrote a legal opinion), then the soft landing among political activists as a community organizer in Chicago (and where he found his spiritual “home” with radical Reverend Jeremiah Wright) and later being catapulted into Illinois State and US Senate seats (using a fair amount of political trickery and manipulation, plus the alliances formed at Rev Wright’s “church” and in Bill Ayers’ living room).
You have to put this in prospective. When Mom married the Indonesian guy...she intended this to be a permanent move...so she gave up her US citizenship and got Indonesian citizenship for herself, and junior. Now, by law....she had given up her citizenship on her own, but law dictates that she cannot give up the kid’s citizenship....that he would make this decision by age 18. So in effect, he is a dual-citizen for at least ten years.
My humble guess, is that when junior went to Hawaii a couple of years later...because he just couldn’t fit into Indonesian life...Grandma took him in and no one in Hawaii ever asked many questions in this period. Somewhere around 18, Grandma realized some idiot had pulled the original birth certificate and noted it was because he was a foreign citizen. It was probably a mistake by some clerk...but it would eventually be fixed with some quiet help from some judge who felt sorry for the family.
As for the foreign status? I think junior took full advantage of scholarships, and portrayed himself as some Indonesian kid all the way up through Columbia University. He didn’t have to mess with the selective service business....as long as he played the foreign card. Someone eventually suggests that this is stupid and he needs to clean up the mess. He gets the amended birth certificate, gets a social security number, and acts like some pure American kid.
It has become quite clear that Obama was accepted into Harvard Law School just as he was accepted at Columbia University undergraduate by virtue of his race and his levers of influence-what they refer to in Germany as "vitamin B." If it were not so we would have seen his transcripts and his college board scores as well as his LSAT's to further burnish the image of the candidate who could walk on water, or at least cause the waters to recede. It is virtually certain both from the absence of any published contributions he made to the Harvard Law Review and from some anecdotal evidence that Obama was elected, repeat "elected," to the post of president of the Harvard Law Review as a conscious and explicit exercise in affirmative action.
No sooner was Obama elected to this post then he became the subject of national media attention partly because of the prestige and the institution. On graduation from Harvard, he was accepted as an instructor at the University of Chicago Law school where he also produced no written evidence of his work and seems not to have otherwise participated as an academic in the cause of the University beyond rather perfunctory performance as a visiting lecturer.
So we have three of America's most prestigious universities, Columbia, Harvard, Chicago and probably Occidental as well, advancing a candidate beyond his proven capacities because of his race and passing him on to the next institution in the line with their imprimatur which elevated him one more step in the American social, economic, academic, legal, political system.
Nor do we know how much influence politicians like Percy Sutton and Dr. Saeed had Harvard and Columbia etc. We do not know these things because there is no transparency.
Each one of these institutions enjoy a great subsidies from federal and state taxpayers. So robust is the treasury of Harvard that it literally has hundreds of billions of dollars to invest. Yet Harvard like most of these universities accepts "charitable" contributions and the donor is excused from paying at least part of his taxes. Protected by this charitable tax deduction, institutions like Harvard have amassed billions in endowments with which it furthers its quasi- public but quasi-secret agenda.
This agenda is quasi-secret in the sense that it withholds from the public an accounting of its policies. It will not release the grades of Barack Obama, nor will it release his LSAT scores. It will not make full disclosure about its admissions policy and why he was admitted to Harvard Law school with what was undoubtedly an inferior grade point and LSAT performance. It regards itself as above the law when it uses race as a sole factor, or at least a conclusive factor in admitting students such as Barack Obama.
These institutions have explicitly said that they are above the law on these issues just as they have maintained that they are above the law as it applies to ROTC recruiting on their campuses. They presume to place themselves above the laws concerning the Second Amendment and the right to bear arms. They operate their own police forces and flagrantly disregard the First Amendment and the right to conduct free speech on these taxpayer subsidized campuses, actually denying free speech to politically despised points of view by bureaucratic means or by the actual physical use of the police power.
They devote the resources of the taxpayer supported institution such as a library and research facilities or their student body, virtually without exception on behalf of left-wing and sometimes extreme left-wing causes and candidates.
Beyond all this there is the intangible prestige factor that the universities lend to left-wing causes. Harvard Law school, for example, will trot out Lawrence Tribe to either support or torpedo judicial candidates depending on their left-wing bona fides. Tribe is paid by Harvard and as time goes on these prestigious professors teach less and less and earn more and more as they are protected by tenure and collect royalties as they publish to captive consumers. Some even vault to the highest offices of land and become Secretary of State.
The list of examples could be extended indefinitely but the point is that our quasi public, quasi-secret institutions, subsidized by us, are operating much like the Federal Reserve, quite beyond any accountability. The problem for us conservatives is that we reflexively and properly oppose introducing government regulation merely because the government subsidizes. Our problem is that the electorate votes in subsidies and conservatives who opposed them lose elections. Once subsidies are voted into place, the liberal demands the right to regulate. This process is carried to extreme and we will see the process eventually culminate in death panels and be justified because the government subsidizes healthcare.
Of course, the left is selective in what institutions it chooses to regulate. Thus we have title V of the Voting Rights Act in which the Atty. Gen. of the United States can, in effect, reimpose reconstruction without due process on wayward southern states and decline to permit them to act against voter fraud but the blatant racial discrimination of our universities against white students, and now against Asian students, goes unaddressed.
Somehow, conservatism must address the anomalies of places like Harvard. It is one thing to subsidize the search for a cure for cancer in the Harvard Medical School and quite another to subsidize Harvard Law school so they can produce a Barack Obama or a Lawrence tribe and inflict them on America.
We will not be politically successful in an attempt to undo the former but we just might be able to make some headway against the latter.
Alas, those are the kinds of complications that crop up when you try to play both sides of the fence, on the one hand seeking preferred status as a foreign student at one point and then needing to scrub that (probable) con later on when that angle became a liability.
With this guy it's just con after con after con, from Conception and attendant questions surrounding eligibility, to Congress with the most unsavory Marxist (and domestic terrorist) characters around. The truth is not in him.
Breitbart is HERE!
I think your theory is flawed. The draft ended back in the seventies.
A cogent theory. This would fit perfectly with a militant Marxist "Draft Card Burning" mindset. When his political value was recognized and he agreed to sign up for the job (probably with only aspirations for Mayor of Chicago or Illinois Senator at the time of the political aspirational idea's inception), the process of sanitizing his past and restoration of his Jus Soli birth status began.
But why the Connecticut SSN and forged Selective Service Registration?
And anyway, how can he be a NBC with a foreigner, non-resident father?? No divided loyalties. It is impossible to deduce that the founders intended anything else by placing the language that they did into A2S1C5.
Perhaps the mailman can answer.
Please don't report me to the Mods for not pinging you earlier.
I did. He didn't. He was a foreign student. I was an American.
Indeed, we were describing Obama as the "Manchurian candidate" even before he was elected.
We have at least two candidates now, Edward Said and Bill Ayer's father-I don't know which one is worse.
Precisely. There was an approximately two year window where those who turned 18 didn’t register for the draft, as there was no registration. ~1976 and 1977. Then Jimmy reinstated registration. Here; it looks like it’s closer to 3 years, most of 1975 too:
“Only men born between March 29, 1957, and December 31, 1959, were completely exempt from Selective Service registration.”
From towards the bottom here:
inexplicable admissions into Columbia and Harvard Law
Not inexplicable at all.
Engaging and articulate young black men were in great demand so institutions could demonstrate their non-racism. Still are, FTM.
Then and now, they're not all that common.
I fall into that category. I did not have to register. My brothers had to sign up anyway because they were born in 63 & 67. I can’t believe there is no record of employment or high school just before this guy signed(allegedly) up. Has anyone checked the address?
I never saw it that way. I remember walking away from the post office (after getting mine stamped with 1980, not an inverted 08), promising myself I would kill a hundred Iranians in battle before they put a bullet in my head.
Jimmy had hostages in Iran, and he hoped the registration would send a signal that he had balls. The Iranians knew better. We hope that Arpaio has sent the SS registration to the Postal investigative authorities to verify that the 80 is an inverted 08 from 2008. The 19 is missing and the top half of 80 is missing, and this clearly indicates that it is the recessed and worn portion of 2008, toward the bottom of the stamp. When our country called for young Americans in 1980, Obama didn't hear the call.
wow. Keep up the good owrk.
Who is Mary Ayers?
He signd up in 2008. 28 years late.
Ping for later
“What the Mailman Knows About Ayers and Obama”
They subscribed to Playboy magazine?
They're not just hiding Obama. They were complicit in his crime and telling the truth now would drag their own actions (and/or inactions) into the light.
Other than those not interested in vetting Obama, the rest know his history, but as Marxists themselves, they not only condone, but encourage his presidency. After all, to them, the end justifies the means. They are too stupid to actually know what they are getting all of us into.
Check out his sister's family.
Surprisingly, or maybe not surprisingly, those same families are, to say the least, multi-ethnic, and their European components date back to the mid 1400s with the arrival of Portuguese traders and adventurers.
No fella's the Ports didn't bring wives with them ~ but they certainly integrated well.
I thought everyone knew this ~ that it was common knowledge.
You might want to take a goodlook at this woman named Anne Stanley (yup, pappa Dunham named his daughter "Stanley Anne" ~ probably with good reason).
The Obama heritage is much more than you imagine it to be. The Ann Stanley situation is disturbing
I am sure he heard the call, he just ignored it just like he ignores the Constitution...
Hard not to recall the story you told when I saw this!
You left out the Saudi money that was sent to Obama.
The MSM likely already know all of this stuff. They have just kept quiet about it. And will continue to.
The Postman Always Rings Twice...
” - - - Mary Ayers. “She was enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student that they were helping out,” he tells Corsi, “and she referred to him as a foreign student.”
Is there any other confirmation that Obama was a FOREIGN STUDENT in the USA?
Meanwhile, the drumbeat of Bolshevik Dictator Baby-Doc Barak continues to grow louder - - - .
More likely Playgirl.
I say curious as I was once a student (though never a law student) and took many final exams. I never once received a memo from a professor or an instructor that discussed a final or any other test I took. It's also curious that there is exactly ONE. If this ONE survives, then why do other examples not survive? Was there only ONE?
Or maybe there was NONE? Has any student ever raised his hand and said that he got the curious memo from Instructor Barack Obama? I know Jack Cashill has analyzed the text of Dreams and strongly believes that Bill Ayers was its true author. I wonder if anyone has ever done a similar analysis of this ONE curious memo.
So the Kremlin is behind the rise of Obama?
Wow! Long but well worth the read. I am sure this will be all over the cable news, huh?
I hope none of these people get breitbarted.
Thank you for the link. I’d forgotten about that thread.
Considering that Obama was sponsored by a Saudi billionaire, why is his entire Middle East policy committed to promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, which hates Saudi Arabia?
Considering that Obama was sponsored by a Saudi billionaire, why is his entire Middle East policy committed to promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, which hates Saudi Arabia?
It was very possible that Obama’s ‘test run’ with the Ayers/Washington Chicago political machines was in 1985 when he was hired to run the Developing Communities Project (DCP) in 1985.
He was hired with a grant from the Woods Fund. The Woods family owned Sahara Coal. Sahara Coal was a major supplier to Commonwealth Edison. Commonwealth Edison was headed by Bill Ayers father - Thomas Ayers.
When he passed that test he was probably sponsored by the political machinery to go to Harvard to give him the pedigree needed to be a big time player in Chicago.
Here is an in depth look into Obama’s relationships in Chicago during the time period. It is from the blog of Stephen Diamond - who is referenced in the article. It titled - “Who sent Obama?”
I believe Obama was sponsored and fast pathed into Chicago politics by the Thomas Ayers machinery. After returning from Harvard he was put on various boards of some of the main money operations for Chicago politics. These included:
The Woods Fund
The Joyce Foundation (a major anti-gun function)
Chicago Annenburg Challenge
With his win in the State Senate in 1997 the machinery had what it wanted - a well connected, in-the-pocket politician in the state house. Had this been the pinnacle of Obama’s career this would have been a win-win for the Chicago left oriented political machinery whose outward face was Herald Washington and had Thomas Ayers - and his sons - in the background.
But then Obama parlayed his success into the US Senate and obviously to President. This may or may not have been the plan of those that ‘sent Obama’ - using Diamonds phrase.
Obama’s roots are with the radicals. He shows that time and time again. It probably started in earnest at Occidental and continued at Columbia. He may have suppressed his support of radicalism during the time the machinery was sponsoring him since he was on the ‘fast path’ and his smooth speaking ability was likely his ticket.
But through Reverend Wright he stayed linked to the Black Liberation movement during the time and was probably well connected with the Herald Washington elements that supported that movement. Obama has said he went to Chicago ‘because of Herald Washington’. That maybe true but it was likely Ayers via his friends at the Woods Fund who paid for him to come to Chicago in the first place.
Valerie Jarret is the current day direct link to the Herald Washington machine. She worked for Washington while he was mayor and hired Michelle Obama to work as part of the Washington administration.
Based on the reports from the WHI at Ulsterman the departure of Bill Daley was supposedly the sign of the last straw with the traditional Chicago machinery. It is possible that the non-radical functions have lost their patience or ability to control Obama. This leaves him being directed by the radical functions - through Valerie Jarrett and maybe Michelle.
It appears that maybe Dr. Frankenstein - the non-radical political machines from Chicago - have lost control of their creation.
Very close to my thinking on this issue. The only difference between what you've said and what I think is that Grandma didn't wait till later. She took care of the mess in December of 1971 during the time Stanley Ann And Barack Sr. just happened to be in Hawaii at exactly the same time.
Selective service registration did not. It has continued without pause.
I stand corrected. See post number 18.
I would love for this to be true, but I have to disagree. The Statement by the Mailman is at best "hearsay", and is not actually proof. It might be possible to use it to LEAD to proof, but it is not proof in and of itself.
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