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What the Mailman Knows About Ayers and Obama
American Thinker ^ | March 19, 2012 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 03/19/2012 2:00:28 AM PDT by Flotsam_Jetsome

"Hulton also recalls one particular conversation with Mary Ayers. "She was enthusiastically talking to me about this young black student that they were helping out," he tells Corsi, "and she referred to him as a foreign student." Adds Hulton, "I was taken aback by how enthusiastic she was about him." Within a year of this conversation, Hulton had a fateful meeting with the young man he presumed Mary was talking about.

According to Hulton, he encountered the fellow on the sidewalk on the front of the Ayers home. In that it was extremely rare to see a black man in this tony neighborhood, Hulton believes that the man felt the need to explain his visit to the Ayers household. Hulton describes him as friendly and neatly, although casually, dressed. Hulton tells Corsi, "I am absolutely positive that it was Barack Obama."

Hulton was sympathetic. After he had come out of military service, he was a supporter of Martin Luther King, who had pressed for fair housing in the Chicago area in the 1960s. "I took some flak about my support for civil rights from my fellow workers at the time," remembers Hulton.

Obama explained to Hulton that he had taken the train out from Chicago to Glen Ellyn in order "to thank the Ayers family personally for helping him with his education." What shocked Hulton was that when casually inquiring into the young man's plans for the future, Obama answered, "I am going to be president of the United States." As Hulton tells Corsi, "[i]t came across like this was something that's already been determined." Adds Hulton, "I was speechless."

(Excerpt) Read more at americanthinker.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: ayers; ayerspostman; billayers; birthcertificate; maryayers; naturalborncitizen; obama
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

So the Kremlin is behind the rise of Obama?


41 posted on 03/19/2012 6:52:44 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Wow! Long but well worth the read. I am sure this will be all over the cable news, huh?

I hope none of these people get breitbarted.


42 posted on 03/19/2012 6:58:43 AM PDT by Bigg Red (Pray for our republic.)
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To: ml/nj

Thank you for the link. I’d forgotten about that thread.


43 posted on 03/19/2012 7:00:34 AM PDT by FourPeas ("Maladjusted and wigging out is no way to go through life, son." -hg)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Considering that Obama was sponsored by a Saudi billionaire, why is his entire Middle East policy committed to promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, which hates Saudi Arabia?


44 posted on 03/19/2012 7:29:32 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

Considering that Obama was sponsored by a Saudi billionaire, why is his entire Middle East policy committed to promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, which hates Saudi Arabia?


45 posted on 03/19/2012 7:29:41 AM PDT by Piranha (If you seek perfection you will end up with Democrats.)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome

It was very possible that Obama’s ‘test run’ with the Ayers/Washington Chicago political machines was in 1985 when he was hired to run the Developing Communities Project (DCP) in 1985.

He was hired with a grant from the Woods Fund. The Woods family owned Sahara Coal. Sahara Coal was a major supplier to Commonwealth Edison. Commonwealth Edison was headed by Bill Ayers father - Thomas Ayers.

When he passed that test he was probably sponsored by the political machinery to go to Harvard to give him the pedigree needed to be a big time player in Chicago.

Here is an in depth look into Obama’s relationships in Chicago during the time period. It is from the blog of Stephen Diamond - who is referenced in the article. It titled - “Who sent Obama?”

http://stephen-diamond.com/?p=393

I believe Obama was sponsored and fast pathed into Chicago politics by the Thomas Ayers machinery. After returning from Harvard he was put on various boards of some of the main money operations for Chicago politics. These included:

The Woods Fund
The Joyce Foundation (a major anti-gun function)
Project Vote
Project Allies
Chicago Annenburg Challenge

With his win in the State Senate in 1997 the machinery had what it wanted - a well connected, in-the-pocket politician in the state house. Had this been the pinnacle of Obama’s career this would have been a win-win for the Chicago left oriented political machinery whose outward face was Herald Washington and had Thomas Ayers - and his sons - in the background.

But then Obama parlayed his success into the US Senate and obviously to President. This may or may not have been the plan of those that ‘sent Obama’ - using Diamonds phrase.

Obama’s roots are with the radicals. He shows that time and time again. It probably started in earnest at Occidental and continued at Columbia. He may have suppressed his support of radicalism during the time the machinery was sponsoring him since he was on the ‘fast path’ and his smooth speaking ability was likely his ticket.

But through Reverend Wright he stayed linked to the Black Liberation movement during the time and was probably well connected with the Herald Washington elements that supported that movement. Obama has said he went to Chicago ‘because of Herald Washington’. That maybe true but it was likely Ayers via his friends at the Woods Fund who paid for him to come to Chicago in the first place.

Valerie Jarret is the current day direct link to the Herald Washington machine. She worked for Washington while he was mayor and hired Michelle Obama to work as part of the Washington administration.

Based on the reports from the WHI at Ulsterman the departure of Bill Daley was supposedly the sign of the last straw with the traditional Chicago machinery. It is possible that the non-radical functions have lost their patience or ability to control Obama. This leaves him being directed by the radical functions - through Valerie Jarrett and maybe Michelle.

It appears that maybe Dr. Frankenstein - the non-radical political machines from Chicago - have lost control of their creation.


46 posted on 03/19/2012 7:37:40 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: pepsionice
As for the foreign status? I think junior took full advantage of scholarships, and portrayed himself as some Indonesian kid all the way up through Columbia University. He didn’t have to mess with the selective service business....as long as he played the foreign card. Someone eventually suggests that this is stupid and he needs to clean up the mess. He gets the amended birth certificate, gets a social security number, and acts like some pure American kid.

Very close to my thinking on this issue. The only difference between what you've said and what I think is that Grandma didn't wait till later. She took care of the mess in December of 1971 during the time Stanley Ann And Barack Sr. just happened to be in Hawaii at exactly the same time.

47 posted on 03/19/2012 8:00:49 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: chopperman
I think your theory is flawed. The draft ended back in the seventies.

Selective service registration did not. It has continued without pause.

48 posted on 03/19/2012 8:05:37 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: chopperman

I stand corrected. See post number 18.


49 posted on 03/19/2012 8:08:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Uncle Slayton
Here we have yet another verified fact that proves that Obama is in deed a foreigner and is not Constitutionally eligible to be president.

I would love for this to be true, but I have to disagree. The Statement by the Mailman is at best "hearsay", and is not actually proof. It might be possible to use it to LEAD to proof, but it is not proof in and of itself.

50 posted on 03/19/2012 8:10:47 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: chopperman
I think your theory is flawed. The draft ended back in the seventies.

True, but the requirement to resister for the draft didn't.

"Registration for Selective Service is also required for various federal programs and benefits, including student loans, job training, federal employment, and naturalization."

...and naturalization.

hmmmmmm...

51 posted on 03/19/2012 8:14:21 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1154 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: Piranha
Considering that Obama was sponsored by a Saudi billionaire, why is his entire Middle East policy committed to promoting the Muslim Brotherhood, which hates Saudi Arabia?

Because he isn't loyal to the Saudi's either? :)

52 posted on 03/19/2012 8:19:34 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Flotsam_Jetsome; mnehring; COUNTrecount; Nowhere Man; FightThePower!; C. Edmund Wright; ...
Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping!

To get onto The Nut-job Conspiracy Theory Ping List you need only threaten to report me to the Admin if I don’t add you to the list...

53 posted on 03/19/2012 8:27:14 AM PDT by null and void (Day 1154 of America's ObamaVacation from reality [Heroes aren't made, Frank, they're cornered...])
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To: DiogenesLamp; chopperman
Selective service registration did not. It has continued without pause.

That is not true....selective service registration ended in 1975 and was resumed again in 1980

The actual draft ended in 1973, two years before I turned 18

source aside from my own dazed and confused memory..lol

54 posted on 03/19/2012 8:28:12 AM PDT by wardaddy (I am a social conservative. My political party left me(again). They can go to hell in a bucket.)
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To: Bullish

They’ve been threatened. Here’s an earlier post with pertinent info:

The important point is that the media - including so-called “conservative media” (Fox and Clear Channel talk radio) is a propaganda arm of George Soros on the things he cares enough to threaten them over, with enough conservative-sounding talk to maintain credibility with many conservatives.

Here’s the basic info:

I’m pretty sure Clear Channel was one of the radio media companies that was threatened in October of 2008 and again within a few months after the election.

My dealings with my local Fox radio station, KFAB out of Omaha, strongly suggested to me that the threats were extended all the way down to the local level.

What Soros is doing here makes Al Capone seem like a choir boy. This is total, tyrannical control over the airwaves of every square inch of America. I REALLY, REALLY hope Americans wake up to see what’s happening here and decide not to let the Soros coup work.

For those who haven’t been following the story of the media threats, I’ll re-post from a previous post:

The major media companies have been threatened - at least once before the election and at least once in the first few months after the election - with both FCC and FTC annihilation after the election if they reported about Obama’s eligibility issue, and it’s claimed that Glenn Beck left Fox because the threats continued even after Beck ridiculed “birthers” but continued to report on Soros’ and Obama’s ties to communists and Islamists. Beck couldn’t provide protection for the lower-level staffers and Fox refused to provide protection and tried to stop him from exposing Soros’ ties because somebody from Fox’s Board of Directors is tied to Soros financially.

Most people in the major media are in bed with Obama and Soros and their communist-Islamist alliance so they didn’t mind the threats. Doug Hagman says that’s actually what one witness said was brought out in one of the meetings where the media company told the on-air personalities that their jobs would definitely be lost and their lives and families’ lives were questionable if they reported on the eligibility issue.

But the threats were very real for the “conservatives”, which explains why we’re basically functioning without ANY media willing to cover the communist-Islamist coup currently taking place within our own country.

Those claims were made by Doug Hagman. Links are below. The transcript of Hagman’s interview with Laurie Roth can be seen in Tom Ballantyne’s book “Oh Really O’Reilly”, for anybody who doesn’t want to slog through 3 hours of audio.

And Mike Zullo, commander of Sheriff Arpaio’s Cold Case Posse, has verified that the threats actually did take place. See http://www.wnd.com/2012/03/did-threats-silence-media-on-obama-probe/ for the article, and/or see http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2856160/posts for discussion regarding the article.

I’ll post here a comment I made earlier that gives the links for the Hagman information. I should also add that before I got confirmation of the accuracy of Hagman’s claims from Mike Zullo personally, I constructed a timeline of events related to potential Soros threats, and based on that timeline I had already seen that Hagman’s claims were very credible, which is why I reported them to Zullo and why he investigated them himself. (It was when I tried to forward my timeline to Zullo that my ISP informed me that my reply to Mike’s e-mail couldn’t be sent because the address failed; so I forwarded it to a go-between who forwarded it to him with no problem. Somebody with power to control the ISP didn’t want me communicating with Mike about Soros’ threats.)

Those threats were actually basically repeated PUBLICLY when Media Matters told Ben Smith that they were conducting guerrilla warfare against Fox, trying to get British regulators to destroy NewsCorp - right after Hannity had agreed with Trump’s statements that Obama should release a BC (which led to the release of what the posse has now confirmed is a forged BC).

Here is what I posted earlier about this, which puts into perspective Breitbart’s death, the bomb scare with Rush Limbaugh, and the presser all happening on the same day (taken from the thread at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2854663/posts ) :

Right, but if he depends on Clear Channel for anybody to hear him, they can tell him what to say.

And this is a critical issue because Soros has threatened the media companies - including both TV and radio - if they reported on the eligibility issue. The same day as Sheriff Arpaio had a press conference saying there is probable cause that Obama’s birth certificate and draft registration are both forged, two of the most independent and effective conservative media entities received “messages” intended to be overheard by every reporter at that presser. Rush had the bomb threat situation. And just hours after interviewing Sheriff Arpaio, Breitbart was dead.

So the country isn’t hearing that a law enforcement investigation found that Obama’s records are forged. They’re hearing that Limbaugh called a gal a slut.

What the MEDIA, though, is hearing, is that Soros meant what he said when he threatened them - because Soros is working on taking out anybody in the media who MIGHT HAVE reported on the crimes that Soros & Co have committed to take the White House and country by an illegal coup.

The media is scared spitless. WND has also reported on this now; a thread about it is at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2856160/posts. Doug Hagman had investigated that, and the posse has corroborated his claims. What Hagman said was that the media people he spoke to were scared - and that was long before this situation with Breitbart and Limbaugh.

Some links:
http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/13373
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour1Aug0709.mp3
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour2Aug0709.mp3
http://www.therothshow.com/demos/recent/hour3Aug0709.mp3

http://www.canadafreepress.com/index.php/article/44247


55 posted on 03/19/2012 8:35:52 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: wardaddy
That is not true....selective service registration ended in 1975 and was resumed again in 1980

The actual draft ended in 1973, two years before I turned 18

source aside from my own dazed and confused memory..lol

Yes, I retracted. Suffice it to say, that Selective Service WAS in effect for Obama during the 1980 time period.

56 posted on 03/19/2012 8:37:32 AM PDT by DiogenesLamp (Partus Sequitur Patrem)
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To: Piranha

Why does Drudge have the story of Santorum in 2008 saying you’d have to vote for Mitt to get a true conservative as the R nominee, since Santorum now paints Romney as not conservative?

Because in 2008 McCain was the liberal that Santorum wanted to defeat. Now it’s Romney.

IOW, “enemy” is a relative term. The Muslim Brotherhood might be an “enemy” to Saudi Arabia in the primaries, but in the general election when Islam is running against every other worldview they are really allies.

According to the Egyptian ambassador speaking on Arab TV in 2010, Obama told him privately that he was and still is a Muslim who supports the Muslim agenda and that the Muslim world needed to be patient with him until he passed Obamacare and then he would focus on the Muslim agenda.

The agenda that all branches of Islam agree on is the destruction of the US and Israel and the intsitution of worldwide sharia.

Obama is dividing Americans like we’ve never been divided before. But he is uniting the Muslim world under the agenda that they all support. More about this at http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2859424/posts?page=25#25 and the following comments.


57 posted on 03/19/2012 8:49:52 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: F15Eagle

Some 999-xx-xxxx Soc Security numbers have been found at times. 999 numbers are not valid numbers but are commonly used for foreign students who do not have official social security numbers.

http://www.westernjournalism.com/exclusive-investigative-reports/list-of-properties-and-obama-social-security-numbers-associate-with-barack-obama-and-family/

Name – OBAMA, BARAK
Street Address – 1009 DIGITAL HWY
City, State, Zip – LOS ANGELES CA 90045
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 999-61-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Dec 05 – Apr 06
*********************************************************************************************************

Name – OBAMA, BARAK
Street Address – 1680 VIDEO DR
City, State, Zip – LOS ANGELES CA 90045
Probable Current Address – No
Telephone -
Telephone Accountholder -
Social Security – 999-99-xxxx
Age -
Date of Birth -
Deceased – No
Date Record Verified – Nov 05 – Mar 06

*******************************************************

All 9’s are sometimes used but any prefix that starts with 999 signifies a foreign student usually. One of the numbers is interesting 999-61-xxxx. Why 61...maybe a birth year marker to create a unique identifier.

Scholarship at Occidental

Obama apparently went to Occidental on scholarship. This is not based on the common internet rumor of the Fulbright scholarship available to foreign students. It is based on an article in the LA Times.

http://articles.latimes.com/2007/jan/29/local/me-oxy29

“But the Illinois Democrat began his undergraduate education at Occidental, and the 1,825-student liberal arts college in the Eagle Rock neighborhood of Los Angeles isn’t shy about claiming him as an alumnus for his two years there (1979-81) on full scholarship. “

The LA Times - “...on full scholarship.”

So what WAS the scholarship he received?


58 posted on 03/19/2012 8:50:19 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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To: bluecat6

The timing of that article strikes me. January of 2007. According to the HDOH’s UIPA responses, that was shortly after Obama amended some kind of birth record in Hawaii - just as he was deciding whether to run for President.


59 posted on 03/19/2012 8:58:18 AM PDT by butterdezillion
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To: DiogenesLamp; wardaddy

Good link with good background environment at the time:

http://hasbrouck.org/blog/archives/001513.html

“No registration requirement was in effect when Obama graduated from high school or turned 18 in 1979. Reinstatement of registration was proposed by President Carter during his State of the Union address in Januray 1980, debated by Congress that spring, and enacted in early summer.

To “jump-start” the Selective Service System and provide an initial pool of potential draftees, there were three mass registration weeks in July-August 1980 and January 1981.

All male U.S. citizens born in 1960 (such as myself) were supposed to register the week of 21-26 July 1980. All those born in 1961 (such as Obama) were supposed to register the following week, 28 July-2 August 1980. All those born in 1962 were supposed to register during the first week of January 1981. Since then, those born in 1963 and after have been supposed to register on a rolling basis, within 30 days of their 18th birthday.

Registrations during the mass registration weeks in 1980 were accepted in person at all Post Offices. Registration forms were accepted at any Post Office, regardless of the registrant’s address or place of residence. (Not until years later was registration made possible online, in conjunction with drivers license applications, or at high schools and other locations.)”

One question might be - Would Obama have been in Hawaii in September of 1980 as the record shows? Or would he not have been in class in Occidental in LA? When did Occidental start classes in the fall of 1980?


60 posted on 03/19/2012 9:02:18 AM PDT by bluecat6 ( "A non-denial denial. They doubt our heritage, but they don't say the story is not accurate.")
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