Skip to comments.Democrats Would Punish ‘Stand Your Ground’ States
Posted on 05/09/2012 9:47:53 PM PDT by neverdem
In a demonstration of pure political pandering regarding the Martin/Zimmerman case, House Democrats excel:
House Democrats said Tuesday they will offer an amendment to push to overturn stand-your-ground self-defense laws in states like Florida.
The amendment, which would withhold some grants from states that have such laws, will come as part of the Houses debate on the Commerce Department spending bill.
One of the sponsors says it would be no different than withholding highway funds from states that dont require seat belt use in cars.
Shoot-first laws have already cost too many lives. In Florida alone, deaths due to self-defense have tripled since the law was enacted. Federal money shouldnt be spent supporting states with laws that endanger their own people, said Reps. Raul Grijalva of Arizona and Keith Ellison of Minnesota, the two Democrats who are offering the legislation.
The law only endangers thugs, muggers, rapists, home invaders, and other mutants. Now, if a citizen cant properly protect himself, he/shell become the statistic.
They are denying the most basic right, the right to defend oneself...
I say that the States, like mine that have a similar law, should tell the Feds kiss this, and I don’t mean on the rosy red lips either.
The “Support Your Local Criminal” act.
See my tag...
“Shoot-first laws have already cost too many lives.”
As opposed to die-first or get-raped-first laws?
Calling them shoot first laws is more deliberate progressive dishonesty. I would expect nothing less from Rep. Grijalva. In fact, a defendant who can invoke a Stand Your Ground law did nothing first. The perp attacked him in a way that put him in reasonable fear that his life was in danger. The perp did that first. If the perp didn’t do that first, then the defendant cannot invoke Stand Your Ground.
Leftist heros like Lee Harvey Oswald, Mao and Stalin were “shoot-first” kinda guys.
Its not shhot first.
It requires courts and prosecutors to presume the self defense gun user’s ue of the weapon to be justified unless they can prove it was not.
Kind of goes along with innocent until proven guilty concept the left always trots out to murderers of certain colors they love to protect.
Here in Ohio, it seems like firearm self defense courses focus primarily on defending yourself in court after you have used deadly force.
Did they forget the 2010 Election?
SYG laws have a decidedly negative impact on a core DemocRAT constituency—Criminals.
For future reference... Using "Criminal" and "Democrat" in the same sentence is an exercise in redundancy.
"The controversial Trayvon Amendment proposed by House Democrats, which would have punished states for having Stand Your Ground laws on their books, has been withdrawn by the Democrats."
It should be called the ‘How to cultivate anarchy’ law
With laws like that in place back when America BECAME America, we would not have survived as a national entity for more than a couple years, if that!
This is either a flat-out lie, or at the very least a gross distortion of the facts. This ASSumption ignores the deaths of innocent people that have been PREVENTED, either directly or by deterrence ("holy crap, I might get shot!").
It reminds me of the 'broken window' story. The libtards ignore the lives that were saved for the same reason they ignore the tailor who didn't get to sell a suit to the baker...because he never enters the scene.
“Calling them shoot first laws is more deliberate progressive dishonesty.”
A true “shoot first” law would allow us to take out dishonest progressive liberals.
This story holds up easily, The Defender (Zimmerman) describes the entrance to Retreat at the Lakes in his conversation with 911 operator. This means he followed Trayvon (Saint Skittles) straight into the complex, where Saint Skittles circled the SUV and continued to wander, where the Defender continued to follow Skittles.
At this point, Skittles hopped up from the sugar and iced tea from his ‘Last Supper’ lost control and attacked The Defender, as the pictures clearly indicate that The Defender (Zimmerman) sustained injuries to the head by Saint Skittles vicious attack, and under ‘Stand your ground’ defended himself within the current law. Saint Skittles caused his own judgement. Saint Skittles was rendered justice a mere 70 feet from his own backyard.
These idiots who insist on the “Duty to Retreat” scenario have obviously never been in combat.
I remember in Vietnam when we had to wait to be shot at first before we could return fire. This is stupidity foisted on us by liberals.
What we need is a sensibly “Homeowner’s Rules of Engagement” that emphasises that you can use deadly force without the worry of consequences from liberal bureaucrats. My first preference is the Castle Doctrine. And to insure there are no repeat attempts on my families lifes, the “Pursue and Kill” clause.
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