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Flopping Aces ^ | 06-20-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/20/2012 1:10:43 PM PDT by Starman417

Dick Morris appeared on Fox and Friends this morning and was eerily prescient. The crew was discussing Fast and Furious and the possible Eric Holder Contempt of Congress vote that looms. Someone asked Morris what he thought was going on and Morris said that it seemed that Obama was going to allow Holder to take the hits on his own over F&F. Otherwise Obama would drop a cloak of Executive Privilege over the documents, but that would in turn make it appear as though Barack Obama was directly involved in the mess.

And now it appears he is directly involved.

President Obama on Wednesday asserted executive privilege over documents sought by a House panel ahead of a scheduled panel vote where Attorney General Eric Holder is expected to be held in contempt of Congress.

It's the first time Obama has used executive privilege since taking office. A White House aide said the president had gone longer without asserting the privilege in a congressional dispute than any other president in the last three decades.

Rep. Darrell Issa (R-Calif.), the chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee, said his panel was "evaluating" a letter from Deputy Attorney General James Cole asserting the privilege that arrived minutes before Issa's committee was to begin contempt proceedings. The vote was to take place Wednesday after a last-ditch effort to reach a deal over documents related to Operation Fast and Furious failed on Tuesday night.

Iowa Senator Chuck Grassley asked some pointed questions about the assertion of Privilege:

(Excerpt) Read more at floppingaces.net...


TOPICS: Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: 2deadfeds; 300deadmexicans; atf; banglist; dea; dhs; doj; fastandfurious; fbi; gunrunner; gunwalker; holder; ice; murdergate; obama

1 posted on 06/20/2012 1:10:51 PM PDT by Starman417
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To: Starman417
Ace has a great graphic at the link!


2 posted on 06/20/2012 1:15:42 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Starman417

As Rush says:

“If Fast and Furious started with Bush, unload on Bush. Why are they covering up for Bush? I’m sick and tired of Obama trying to cover up for Bush’s bad deeds!” -Rush


3 posted on 06/20/2012 1:16:42 PM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (Criminaliens or Crimigrants...0bamao's people?)
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To: Starman417

So what happens now? Is there anything Issa can do?


4 posted on 06/20/2012 1:17:18 PM PDT by beaversmom
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To: Starman417
It's the first time Obama has used executive privilege since taking office. A White House aide said the president had gone longer without asserting the privilege in a congressional dispute than any other president in the last three decades.

Patent Pimp Bravado coming from an administration that has traded on BLACK more than a guy that sells INDIA INK!

pResident Obama hasn't had to invoke Executive Privilege because of all the racist black legislators, complicit media, and those ball-less RINO bastards in the House and Senate.

When one of them all of a sudden grows a pair, that pu$$y invokes Executive Privilege faster than one of my grand daughters cheating in hide'n'seek invoking, "yes, I was on base" "no you weren't" blah blah blah -------"Mommy!!!!!!!" "She's cheating!!!!!" Absolutely pathetic, even from the protected, privileged race.

5 posted on 06/20/2012 1:19:35 PM PDT by Gaffer
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To: TribalPrincess2U

The Truth will come out—Obama was up to his elbow in this—he saw as a way to take guns away from people. He even boast of such.


6 posted on 06/20/2012 1:19:54 PM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: smoothsailing

Rush pondered if this is the first time in history when the crime is actually worse than the cover-up.


7 posted on 06/20/2012 1:20:13 PM PDT by PA Engineer (Time to beat the swords of government tyranny into the plowshares of freedom.)
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To: PA Engineer

Contempt just passed 23 - 17 and will know go to the House

YES


8 posted on 06/20/2012 1:22:52 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: beaversmom
So what happens now? Is there anything Issa can do?Perjury charges for Holder, for one. He stated in sworn testimony before Congress that the White House had no connection to the operation.
9 posted on 06/20/2012 1:23:11 PM PDT by Renderofveils (My loathings are simple: stupidity, oppression, crime, cruelty, soft music. - Nabokov)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The “we’re doing things under the radar” comment?


10 posted on 06/20/2012 1:23:36 PM PDT by 2nd Bn, 11th Mar (The "p" in Democrat stands for patriotism.)
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To: Renderofveils

One thing that is evident...MSM has yet to say much about this. Seems it is only momentous when the GOP is involved, otherwise, it is just business as usual.


11 posted on 06/20/2012 1:27:53 PM PDT by Mouton (Voting is an opiate of the electorate. Nothing changes no matter who wins..)
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To: Starman417
Either little Barry is up to his neck in this coverup, OR is is wrongly trying to throw the cloak of executive privilege over his buddy Erick withHolder. Either way in a sane world this would be his end. BUT we are no longer living in a sane world
12 posted on 06/20/2012 1:28:02 PM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: PA Engineer

He certainly has a point.


13 posted on 06/20/2012 1:44:38 PM PDT by smoothsailing
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To: Renderofveils
Perjury charges for Holder, for one. He stated in sworn testimony before Congress that the White House had no connection to the operation.

I caught on Fox that the justus department has now had to "retract" sworn statements and letters 3 times now.

At what point do the ministry of propaganda finally come out and admit they're covering for a vast left wing CRIMINAL conspiracy?

Some leftist this morning kept ranting that this was just a "fishing expedition." "Fishing expeditions" are trying to manufacture a crime to hang on a target (a perfect example being Scooter Libby). That's certainly NOT the case here. Nobody claims there were no crimes, thought the justus department denied anything at first. Once caught in a lie, they "retracted" a letter and admitted that something might have happened. Finally, they admitted that it was local offices behind it all. Now there's proof that DC people knew, but they're hiding the incriminating documents. But thy can no longer deny that agents and officers of the US government have committed crimes here. Hell, there are TWO dead US agents and HUNDREDS of dead Mexicans, courtesy of illegal international weapons trafficking promoted the the US government. The only question is how high does this go? The answer is at least Holder, but I have NO DOUBT that Obama knew of this, and given his propensity to order the deaths of people via drone strikes, it may have been his idea from the beginning.

Mark

14 posted on 06/20/2012 1:52:43 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: jcsjcm

Those are straight party numbers. Is that what happened?


15 posted on 06/20/2012 1:53:36 PM PDT by Gulf War One
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To: 2nd Bn, 11th Mar
Looks like the media got on board early and helped Obama/Holder with the "90% of guns in Mexico come from the U.S." narrative. I wonder if the media knew that Obama's plan to flood Mexico with American guns in order to cause Americans to support more restrictive gun laws in the United States was already underway (F&F): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q1buAcAZAuM

Watch Obama blame the gun violence in Mexico on the United States ("90% of guns recovered in Mexico come from the United States") while at the same time HE'S HELPING THEM GET THERE WITH HIS F&F PROGRAM!: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wgkh_1sgFrs

16 posted on 06/20/2012 1:57:22 PM PDT by GeorgeWashingtonsGhost
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To: Gulf War One

Of course it was straight party-line. Did you expect otherwise?


17 posted on 06/20/2012 1:58:08 PM PDT by workerbee (We're not scared, Maobama -- we're pissed off!)
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To: Renderofveils

“Perjury charges for Holder, for one. He stated in sworn testimony before Congress that the White House had no connection to the operation.”

Right. The WH either is incredibly dumb in not thinking two steps ahead, OR is setting up Holder to be squished by the bus. Invoking the privilege is prima facie evidence Holder lied, so he’s now between a rock and a very hard place.


18 posted on 06/20/2012 2:00:19 PM PDT by DrC
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To: Mouton
One thing that is evident...MSM has yet to say much about this

My guess is that they're all working on a new story which will help divert attention. I expect to hear any minute now an announcement that Zimmerman's father, 6 cousins, his attorney and his dog have all been arrested.

19 posted on 06/20/2012 2:05:42 PM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: Mouton
Seems it is only momentous when the GOP is involved, otherwise, it is just business as usual.

Remember Valerie Plame and the the ministry of propaganda demanding the scalp of Dick Cheney? The special persecutor KNEW the name of the leaker within days of the beginning of the investigation. Since they couldn't hang it on the guy who actually leaked it, due to his connections to Colin Powell, and the fact they couldn't get Cheney, so they went after someone connected to him, and manufactured a crime to hang on Libby.

But where are their screams about the security leaks of ONGOING operations? Just last night a new leak revealed ANOTHER computer virus launched against Iran. So that's what, 6 major leaks just in the last month or so, and not a peep from the ministry of propaganda.

Mark

20 posted on 06/20/2012 2:10:53 PM PDT by MarkL (Do I really look like a guy with a plan?)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

“Obama was up to his elbow in this—he saw as a way to take guns away from people.”

You are absolutely right. That is the essence of this whole sordid affair which was a planned and insidious scheme that backfired on them. Issa probably already has the docs (from other sources) to prove it. Like a fine wine, this is going to get better with age.


21 posted on 06/20/2012 2:14:17 PM PDT by Starboard
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To: Gulf War One

Absolutely - watched the whole thing from early this morning!

Every vote including those on amendments all went along party lines. It was simply disgusting to see the dems fight tooth and nail for Holder!


22 posted on 06/20/2012 2:20:34 PM PDT by jcsjcm (This country was built on exceptionalism and individualism. In God we Trust - Laus Deo)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Sure hope you’re right. It’s the only thing that makes sense. But, if Bush initiated a gun-running program, wouldn’t it be the perfect foil for Holder & co. to alter the program oh-so-subtlely to enact Progressive gun-laws. I’d even posit that Holder (Obama) NEEDED a dead American to make the case.


23 posted on 06/20/2012 3:10:45 PM PDT by Mach9
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To: Mach9
But, if Bush initiated a gun-running program,

But nothing, he didn't, these shitbirds don't need a foil for their plans, or dead Americans, they are just happy to have them. Real dead Americans, and a law enforcement program with a weak purpose, but using solid 'controlled deliveries' procedures to catch crooks so that they could claim that their program was the same thing.

24 posted on 06/20/2012 4:46:08 PM PDT by xone
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