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What John Roberts really did for us
Flopping Aces ^ | 06-30-12 | DrJohn

Posted on 06/30/2012 11:52:15 AM PDT by Starman417

Pyrrhus was king of the Hellenistic kingdom of Epirus whose costly military successes against Macedonia and Rome gave rise to the phrase' Pyrrhic victory'.

In 281 BC Tarentum, a Greek colony in southern Italy, asked his assisstance against Rome. Pyrrhus crossed to Italy with 25,000 men and 20 elephants. He won a complete, but costly, victory over a Roman army at Heraclea. In 279 Pyrrhus, again suffering heavy casualties, defeated the Romans at Asculum.

His remark 'Another such victory and I shall be ruined' gave name to the term 'Pyrrhic victory' for a victory obtained at to great a cost. Later he tried to create a kdm of Sicily, but his harsh methods provoked a revolt of the Greek Sicilians and he returned to Italy. In 275 the Romans defeated him at Beneventum.

The dust blasted into the air from the impact of the Obamacare decision hitting Washington has yet to settle but it's recriminations all around. SCOTUS Chief Justice John Roberts is getting toasted by the right. Mark Levin calls the decision "lawless" and the NY Times and Michael Savage questions Roberts' mental health status. But hold on- I think Roberts did us a favor.

Roberts struck down the mandate as it pertained to the Commerce Clause and ruled that Obamacare is a tax. A lot of taxes, actually- on families and small businesses.

And that recalls Barack Obama's words to Americans. Candidate Obama and President Obama, that is. They each promised us different things.

Candidate Obama was against the personal mandate.

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For more fun, watch this

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Sen. Jay Rockefeller (D-WV) said that Obamacare represented a “big middle class tax increase.”

President Obama swore that Obamacare was not a tax.

STEPHANOPOULOS: You were against the individual mandate…

OBAMA: Yes.

STEPHANOPOULOS: …during the campaign. Under this mandate, the government is forcing people to spend money, fining you if you don’t. How is that not a tax?

OBAMA: Well, hold on a second, George. Here — here’s what’s happening. You and I are both paying $900, on average — our families — in higher premiums because of uncompensated care. Now what I’ve said is that if you can’t afford health insurance, you certainly shouldn’t be punished for that. That’s just piling on. If, on the other hand, we’re giving tax credits, we’ve set up an exchange, you are now part of a big pool, we’ve driven down the costs, we’ve done everything we can and you actually can afford health insurance, but you’ve just decided, you know what, I want to take my chances. And then you get hit by a bus and you and I have to pay for the emergency room care, that’s…

STEPHANOPOULOS: That may be, but it’s still a tax increase.

OBAMA: No. That’s not true, George. The — for us to say that you’ve got to take a responsibility to get health insurance is absolutely not a tax increase. What it’s saying is, is that we’re not going to have other people carrying your burdens for you anymore than the fact that right now everybody in America, just about, has to get auto insurance. Nobody considers that a tax increase. People say to themselves, that is a fair way to make sure that if you hit my car, that I’m not covering all the costs.

STEPHANOPOULOS: But it may be fair, it may be good public policy…

OBAMA: No, but — but, George, you — you can’t just make up that language and decide that that’s called a tax increase. Any…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Here’s the…

OBAMA: What — what — if I — if I say that right now your premiums are going to be going up by 5 or 8 or 10 percent next year and you say well, that’s not a tax increase; but, on the other hand, if I say that I don’t want to have to pay for you not carrying coverage even after I give you tax credits that make it affordable, then…

STEPHANOPOULOS: I — I don’t think I’m making it up. Merriam Webster’s Dictionary: Tax — “a charge, usually of money, imposed by authority on persons or property for public purposes.”

OBAMA: George, the fact that you looked up Merriam’s Dictionary, the definition of tax increase, indicates to me that you’re stretching a little bit right now. Otherwise, you wouldn’t have gone to the dictionary to check on the definition. I mean what…

STEPHANOPOULOS: Well, no, but…

OBAMA: …what you’re saying is…

STEPHANOPOULOS: I wanted to check for myself. But your critics say it is a tax increase.

OBAMA: My critics say everything is a tax increase. My critics say that I’m taking over every sector of the economy. You know that. Look, we can have a legitimate debate about whether or not we’re going to have an individual mandate or not, but…

STEPHANOPOULOS: But you reject that it’s a tax increase?

OBAMA: I absolutely reject that notion.

Roberts ruled that it is a tax. The biggest tax increase on the middle class in history.

Candidate Obama said health care should never be purchased with tax increases on middle class families:

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: abortion; deathpanels; godsgravesglyphs; obama; obamacare; pyrrhicvictory; pyrrhus; roberts; romanempire; scotus; zerocare
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To: Mercat
Robert’s first love is history.

Then I bet he's happy, cause he's history now.

101 posted on 06/30/2012 8:59:37 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Uncle Sham
What Roberts did was blatantly against the Constitution. It's important that history record him for the scoundrel that he is - your apologias notwithstanding.

Why not do the right thing and apply good old-fashioned shame and scorn to Justice Roberts?

102 posted on 06/30/2012 9:04:28 PM PDT by Ken H
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To: Paladin2; Publius; Billthedrill
Now it’s illegal to go Galt.

That's OK. It was in the book, too. They even discussed applying capital punishment.

103 posted on 06/30/2012 9:08:38 PM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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To: Still Thinking

Directive 10-289.


104 posted on 06/30/2012 9:11:17 PM PDT by Publius (Leadershiup starts with getting off the couch.)
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To: Publius
"Point Six. Every person of any age, sex, class or income, shall henceforth spend the same amount of money on the purchase of goods per year as he or she spent during the Basic Year, no more and no less.

Over or under purchasing shall be fined, such fines to be determined by the Unification Board. "

Perfect.

105 posted on 07/01/2012 7:00:34 AM PDT by Paladin2
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To: Ken H
"What Roberts did was blatantly against the Constitution. It's important that history record him for the scoundrel that he is - your apologias notwithstanding. Why not do the right thing and apply good old-fashioned shame and scorn to Justice Roberts? "

For the record, this ruling is despicable, totally against the Constitution, and needs to be erased. Those who impose it have no honor in doing so. However, it's too soon to write the history of this event as the repercussions, whatever they might be, have not fully transpired. I will admit that it someday will either be judged to be a complete travesty that helped destroy a once great nation, or an unappreciated at the time act of bravery that helped put into motion the actions that saved that same great nation. In the first instance, shame and scorn are well justified. In the second, not so. Don't be in such a hurry. Just act on that anger of yours to best effect in the next election. For both you and me, this is our assignment. We the people have been given a job to do. Let us give it our best effort.

106 posted on 07/01/2012 7:50:07 AM PDT by Uncle Sham
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