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OBAMA’S KENYAN BIRTH RECORDS DISCOVERED IN BRITISH NATIONAL ARCHIVES
The Daily Pen ^ | July 18, 2012 | Dan Crosby

Posted on 07/19/2012 5:28:21 PM PDT by Seizethecarp

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To: Fred Nerks

It does look very much like the same girl. What year is the French club photo supposed to be? They look younger in it then the one with the girls club. What year is it supposed to be? The girls club photo.


1,361 posted on 08/01/2012 9:45:56 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Fred Nerks; little jeremiah

Those male & female class photos certainly caught my attention! SADO is missing in all of them.

Do you have any year for 1) the French Club photo & 2) the other SADO group vests photo?

As many times as I have seen the dark vests photo (with SADO sans vest), I am beginning to think that is a photoshop as well.

She is certainly NOT in any of the other class group photos you just posted.

Is not the official story that SADO spent one year in Seattle and spent last two years until graduation (grade 11 & 12) at Mercer Island school -— 3 years total in Washington? Or was it 4 yrs in Washington?

I don’t have access to any of my research.


1,362 posted on 08/01/2012 9:49:52 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Greenperson

I dont know if zero wears one or not— its odd for a single baby to wear one, unless there is a twin and you need it to tell them apart..


1,363 posted on 08/01/2012 9:50:56 PM PDT by chicken head
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To: little jeremiah

I know she’s not to be trusted. Mrs. Nelson, I mean. And I know that Dr. West retired from the practice of medicine 5 years before Obama was born.

But that doesn’t change my point which was that Abercrombie might have sincerely believed the story that was going around in the media: That Obama was born at Kapiolani and that Dr. West (at least for a time, according to Nelson’s implication to the media) delivered him.

Abercrombie, like the rest of Obama Sr.’s friends, probably didn’t know anything about any wife and baby in Hawaii. He first met Obama the younger when he played t-ball about age 6 (or so he said). He’s a friend of the family, going way, way back. Mrs. Nelson and Abercrombie both happen to have roots in Buffalo. That’s neither here nor there.

My point is that Abercrombie MIGHT have believed that Dr. West did deliver Obama. He MIGHT have found out that Dr. West kept a record of all the children that he had delivered and that he donated his papers to the Hawaii State Archives. Then Abercrombie might have figured that even if he can’t get his hands on a birth certificate and even if Obama won’t release a birth certificate (for whatever reason), he, Abercrombie, can clear it all up by finding that record that was “written down” on something in the state archives. So he opened his big trap and promised to solve the question once and for all. Then when he went to look, he either couldn’t find that book because it was disappeared like so much else has been disappeared or he discovered that Obama’s name wasn’t in it. (And of course it wasn’t there, because Dr. West didn’t deliver babies in 1961.)

But Nelson and the media told that story and MAYBE Abercrombie believed that story. Later on, he had no choice but to clam up once he found out that there was nothing to help him either in the archives or in the birth records at the Hawaiian Dept. of Health.

In my opinion, either the original record is sealed because of an adoption or the “original” record came into being only about 2008, when Madelyn filed an affidavit. Or maybe Obama himself filed the affidavit and the Hawaiians, being eager to help him out, accepted it and created a very late birth certificate that, unfortunately, cannot serve as evidence of jack sh**.


1,364 posted on 08/01/2012 10:03:06 PM PDT by Greenperson
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To: Seizethecarp

Cross-posted from:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2913366/posts?q=1&;page=59

To: Meet the New Boss

“In January 1964, Stanley Ann’s divorce petition alleged that they had a child BHO II. However, Obama Sr. never made answer to the divorce petition and he did not appear at the hearing in March 1964. It is notable that Stanley Ann did not seek child support against Obama Sr.; she may have known she was on shaky ground as to paternity and did not press the matter.”
However, in April or May he told the INS in Baltimore he was “separated” from his wife who was in the Philippines IIRC. This might be further evidence he was trying to intentionally distance himself from both Stanley and Barry and he may not have known about all of the notes in the INS files back in HI. He may not have known he was divorced, given all of the partying he was doing with Ruth on top of his studies. Ruth’s parents were hysterical and calling Harvard and the INS trying to get him kicked out of the country.

Reading your comment about the divorce decree, I am wondering if the reason that child support was not adjudicated was that the BC requested for the divorce by Stanley Ann’s attorney from Kenya never arrived in time, if the new revelation on the Daily Pen that there is one in the Kew, UK BNA (archive) is true indicated by an index of a male baby born to BHO Sr in 1961.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2908395/posts?q=1&;page=1#1

“It is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA that the Bomford document image from Australia was accessed and used by pro-Obama operatives as a template to alter the image of the Kenyan CCRB image in order to make it appear that “birthers” had created a bad counterfeit of a Kenyan birth record for Obama. This was done by Obama’s forgers to create “shell game” confusion among the public and misdirect media attention from the truth that an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB, which was never allowed to be publicly seen in its original form before Obama’s forgers were able to access and change it, was actually an image of a legitimate document posted by unknown individuals who were known by Obama to possess the document before hand.

“Essentially, the Bomford affair was just another coverup to hide Obama’s foreign birth records.”

One of the most seductive things about that Bomford BC was that the date it was prepared of February 1964, IIRC, fit it being a document requested for the HI divorce court.

Now Daily Pen says that “an original, unaltered Kenyan CCRB” for Obama was the template for the Bomford forgery “is now supported by the evidence discovered in the BNA.”

If Stanley Ann was hidden away in Kenya to deliver baby Barry, witnesses by Gramma Sarah as she claimed and registered in the colonial records not in the Kew, UK BNA, I think it is highly probable that BHO Sr. would know about that series of events. And he could be very motivated to hide it!

59 posted on Thursday, August 02, 2012 1:07:07 AM by Seizethecarp


1,365 posted on 08/01/2012 10:10:41 PM PDT by Seizethecarp
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To: Fred Nerks
".....Nancy Ramney, the Olympian was a class of 58 girl"

Fred, based on the following, Wiki says Nancy Jane Ramey was (born June 29, 1940 in Seattle, Washington. So Nancy couldn't have been a 1958 graduate. I know this because I was born Nov. 1939 and I started school in Seattle and I am a 1958 graduate.

The cut off date in WA in order to start Kindergarten is Dec 5th. She would have had to be a 1959 grad.

Looking at all those pictures sure brings back memories.

1,366 posted on 08/01/2012 10:12:18 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Greenperson

Your assessment of what happened with Abercrombie sounds very possible.

Regarding whatever may be in HI DoH records, it is most certainly for someone other than the guy in the WH; I guess the question in my mind is how far the DoH is complicit in helping create the totally fake b.c. Or did “campaign staff” etc created it using other documents; which I think is likely. IMHO the DoH knows what they have and what they don’t have, and have been complicit in criminal coverups and aiding and abetting various criminal acts by the WH.


1,367 posted on 08/01/2012 10:31:34 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Spunky

There’s no way of telling when ANY OF THE IMAGES were taken, the years attributed to them vary, no one has ever seen a FULL PAGE with a year-date on it. That’s WHY I’m going throught this exercise.

The group images are captioned Class of 1958, but there are several girls who graduated in 1960, so the group images have to be from Class of 1960.

It shouldn’t surprise anyone that it’s hard to follow, you have already noticed SHE isn’t there, so you could hardly expect the groups to be CAPTIONED Class of 1960, THAT WOULD GIVE THE GAME AWAY.

Take your time, there’s another sequence. I can show you but I cannot explain everything, we are dealing with some pretty tricky people, right?


1,368 posted on 08/01/2012 10:34:17 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah

It's either the girl in the French Club image or the girl from one of the three in the Grade Nine group - can you be sure?

1,369 posted on 08/01/2012 10:42:07 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Spunky

imagesavings is probably over-loaded.


1,370 posted on 08/01/2012 10:43:29 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

No, I can’t be sure. I’d have to see better photos and my eyes are not as sharp as they used to be. I’d lean towards the French club book holder but I could easily be wrong, it could be the other girl.


1,371 posted on 08/01/2012 10:50:31 PM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: thouworm

You can’t go by anything they try to tell you, watch the videos, watch them carefully, THEY NEVER SHOW YOU A FULL PAGE.

http://seattlest.com/2008/01/30/obamas_mixed_an.php


1,372 posted on 08/01/2012 10:51:02 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks

She’s staring at a different angle away from where the other girls are looking!!!


1,373 posted on 08/01/2012 11:03:06 PM PDT by danamco (-)
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To: Seizethecarp; Fred Nerks; David; Brown Deer; LucyT

Quote from Seizethecarp: “One of the most seductive things about that Bomford BC was that the date it was prepared of February 1964, IIRC, fit it being a document requested for the HI divorce court.”

As I have pointed out before you DO NOT have to provide a BC of your children to get a divorce.”

I have done a “Do It Yourself Divorce” in Washington State for my daughter. You get a packet with all the legal documents required along with the “Instructions”. At no time is a copy of your “Marriage License” or “Birth Certificates” asked for. Also my mother divorced my father in 1955 with legal help and I know she didn’t have to present Birth Certificates for her children as she never had any in her possession. In fact when I applied for Social Security I had to order one from my birth state.

The reason a page is missing when someone requests to see a copy of the divorce papers is due to a “CONFIDENTIAL INFO FORM” The clerks are instructed not to put any of that information in a public access file.

Below is the form that is filled out if any of those reasons occur.

Confidential Information Form (INFO)
County: Cause Number:

Court Clerk: This is a Restricted Access Document

Do not file in a public access file.

Divorce/Separation/Invalidity/Nonparental Custody/Paternity/Modifications Sexual Assault Other
Domestic Violence Antiharassment Information Change (Check if you are updating information)
A restraining order or protection order is in effect protecting the petitioner the respondent the children.
The health, safety, or liberty of a party or child would be jeopardized by disclosure of address information because:

The following information about the parties is required in all cases:
(Use the Addendum To Confidential Information Form to list additional parties or children)
Petitioner Information Type or Print Only Respondent Information
Name (Last, First, Middle)
Name (Last, First, Middle)

Race
Sex
Birthdate
Race
Sex Birthdate
Driver’s Lic. or Identicard (# and State)

Driver’s Lic. or Identicard (# and State), (or, if unavailable, residential address)

Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)

Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)

Relationship to Child(ren)

Relationship to Child(ren)

The following information is required if there are children involved in the proceeding. (Soc. Sec. No. is not required for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/Sexual Assault).)
1) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or Whereabouts

2) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or Whereabouts

List the names and present addresses of the persons with whom the child(ren) lived during the last five years:

List the names and present addresses of any person besides you and the respondent who has physical custody of, or claims rights of custody or visitation with, the child(ren):

Except for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/
Sexual Assault), the following information is required:
Petitioner’s Information Respondent’s Information
Soc. Sec. No.: Soc. Sec. No.:
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)

Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)

E-mail Address: E-mail Address:
Telephone No.: ( ) Telephone No.: ( )
Employer: Employer:
Empl. Address:

Empl. Address:
Empl. Phone No.: ( ) Empl. Phone No.: ( )
For Nonparental Custody Petitions only, list other Adults in Petitioner(s) household (Name/DOB):

Additional information:

Addendum(s) To Confidential Information Form attached. List other parties or children in Addendum(s).
I certify under penalty of perjury under the laws of the state of Washington that the above information is true and accurate concerning myself and is accurate to the best of my knowledge as to the other party, or is unavailable. The information is unavailable because
.
Signed on __________________ (Date) at ____________________________________ (City and State).

Petitioner/Respondent
ADDENDUM TO CONFIDENTIAL INFORMATION FORM (AD)
County: Cause Number: Do not file in a
Court Clerk: This is a Restricted Access Document public access file.
The following information about additional parties is required in all cases.
Additional Petitioner Information Type or Print Only Additional Respondent Information
Name (Last, First, Middle)
Name (Last, first, Middle)

Race
Sex
Birthdate
Race
Sex
Birthdate

Drivers Lic. or Identicard (# and State)

Drivers Lic. or Identicard (# and State), (or, if unavailable, residential address)

Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)

Mailing Address (P.O. Box/Street, City, State, Zip)

Relationship to Child(ren)
Relationship to Child(ren)
The following information is required if there are additional children involved in the proceeding.
(Soc. Sec. No. is not required for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/Sexual Assault).)
3) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or
Whereabouts
4) Child’s Name (Last, First, Middle)
Child’s Race/Sex/Birthdate
Child’s Soc. Sec. No. (If required)
Child’s Present Address or
Whereabouts
Except for petitions in protection order cases (Domestic Violence/Antiharassment/
Sexual Assault), the following information is required:
Additional Petitioner Information Additional Respondent Information
Soc. Sec. No.: Soc. Sec. No.:
Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)

Residential Address (Street, City, State, Zip)

E-mail Address: E-mail Address:
Telephone No.: ( ) Telephone No.: ( )
Employer: Employer:
Empl. Address:

Empl. Address:

Empl. Phone No.: ( ) Empl. Phone No.: ( )

Here is a link to the “Do It Yourself” Documents and Instructions.

http://www.lawhelp.org/documents/1475213240EN.pdf?stateabbrev=/WA/

Everything you put down you SWEAR TO as being correct, so you have already told them the names dates etc of your childen. Therefore the court DOES NOT need more papers.

Now just in case you say, well that is Washington State, here is a link to Hawaii’s divorce packet. Let me know if you find where it says you have to supply BC.

http://www.easy-divorce.com/Hawaii-Forms.htm

I hope this posts in paragraphs as I am not using HTML formating


1,374 posted on 08/01/2012 11:07:54 PM PDT by Spunky (Those)
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To: Spunky

May I suggest, if we are to get to the bottom of this mystery, we might concentrate on trying to identify the students that will show us if SAD was in any classes AFTER 1958, because I haven't been able to find her. Other than the suspect 'no sweater' image which appears to have been created purely for the purpose of trying to convince us she graduated from that high school in 1960 - and an image with a weird hair style and a string pearls doesn't make a graduation...

You'll notice that Nancy Ramey has signed the back of one of the group images, (it's not possible to see front and back at the same time) and this image is captioned CLASS OF 1958. Tony Nugent also signed, and he was also Class of 1958.

WIKI SAYS: She graduated from the University of Washington in 1962 after spending junior year at the University of London's Bedford College. In 1967, she received a masters from the University of Wisconsin and later obtained her doctorate.

1,375 posted on 08/01/2012 11:11:24 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: little jeremiah
...Gramps returned from the war never having seen real combat, and the family headed to California, where he enrolled at Berkeley under the GI bill. But the classroom couldn’t contain his ambitions, his restlessness, and so the family moved again, first back to Kansas, then through a series of small Texas towns, then finally to Seattle, where they stayed long enough for my mother to finish high school. Gramps worked as a furniture salesman; they bought a house and found themselves bridge partners. They were pleased that my mother proved bright in school, although when she was offered early admission into the University of Chicago, my grandfather forbade her to go, deciding that she was still too young to be living on her own...’

(excerpt, "Dreams from my Father")

And that's all we've got aside from a few very suspicious looking photographs...

The French Club image - also undated.

image source

1,376 posted on 08/01/2012 11:24:56 PM PDT by Fred Nerks (fair dinkum)
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To: Fred Nerks
The only one without sweater; the only one not looking directly into the camera. As though added years later.
1,377 posted on 08/01/2012 11:29:00 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: Fred Nerks
Re videos

1st video answers my question on official version -- One year at Seattle and 2 yrs at Mercer Island school. Three years in Washington total.

1st video - I also have thought it odd that Chip points to his senior photo (assuming it's his senior photo) and not SADO's.

We would have to see a "live" yearbook to know its basic design with respect to how they highlighted each class. For instance, many yearbooks of that era only had group class photos for students in 10th & 11th grade---and individual photos for 12th grade.

1st video --- Susan Blake: "Here's Stanley, 1959 Quill & Scroll."

2nd video - 1:40 min --- another all girls photo

SADO may have had a senior picture taken, but I have never seen any evidence that she actually attended her senior year at Mercer Island. Quite the contrary, and, if anything, I have thought that most interviewees avoid mentioning her senior year.

1,378 posted on 08/01/2012 11:39:15 PM PDT by thouworm (.)
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To: Fred Nerks; little jeremiah; danamco

The only one without a sweater, not looking at camera, not smiling.

1,379 posted on 08/01/2012 11:45:44 PM PDT by PhilDragoo (Hussein: Islamo-Commie from Kenya)
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To: PhilDragoo
Notice that all the ladies in her row have the sunlight brightening up the right side of their hair and some of the top, old *Stan* no brightening effect.
Interesting.
1,380 posted on 08/02/2012 12:02:43 AM PDT by The Cajun (Sarah Palin, Mark Levin......Nuff said.)
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