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Alarming purchases by benign fed. agencies: Social Security Admin, Weather Bureau buying bullet?
coachisright.com ^ | August 19, 2012 | George Spelvin, staff writer

Posted on 08/19/2012 8:13:38 AM PDT by jmaroneps37

We’ve seen the stories about large purchases of ammunition being made by federal agencies that have nothing to do with our military or law enforcement.

Why would the National Weather Service (46,000 rounds) and the Social Security Administration (174,000 rounds) need to purchase these large quantities of powerful ammo?

Perhaps the more important question is why these are otherwise nonthreatening agencies buying hollow point bullets that have been internationally outlawed since 1899?

The answer could be that Barack Obama is coming for your guns by using a 1961 Secretary of State Declaration to incrementally and too bad for America’s Second Amendment rights.

A new youtube video entitled “Troops Ordered to Kill All Americans Who do Not turn in Guns,” is making cyber waves Big time!

“Freedom From War, A U.S. Program for General and Complete Disarmament, No. 7277, dated September, 1961, lists the following actions to be taken: –immediate disarmament action

-international control -read United Nations- to oversee all states (read countries) including United States

-Peacekeeping mechanisms to be set up in a UN Peace Force.

Now this means a: drastic reduction in our U.S. military along with that of Russia to a troop level figure of 2.1 million men only for each state (country).

-conversion of our military bases into areas for “Peaceful Purpose” and strict prohibition of the manufacture of all ARMAMENTS!

They’re coming after your small arms and light weapons because “ideological differences among states (read countries) are causing wars,” and our globalists don’t want any more infractions or incursions to take place any more.

“A permanent state of General and Complete Disarmament under the effective international control (to) convert to material, cultural, and spiritual advances” for populations is the NWO aim! “analysis by…., deciphers the liberal double speak....

(Excerpt) Read more at coachisright.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: government
Of course they pretend to have some explanation but how can we believe them?
1 posted on 08/19/2012 8:13:51 AM PDT by jmaroneps37
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To: jmaroneps37

This article is useful in that it collects and exagerrates all the stupidities of all the other silly blog posts on this subject.


2 posted on 08/19/2012 8:23:05 AM PDT by Strategerist
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To: Strategerist

Yet, while these agencies are buying bullets, our border agents are told to use beanbags.


3 posted on 08/19/2012 8:26:41 AM PDT by aimhigh
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To: jmaroneps37

Hollow point bullets are illegal? Huh. I did not know that. I’m going to run down to Walmart and let them know they’re breaking the law.


4 posted on 08/19/2012 8:39:25 AM PDT by jstaff
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To: jmaroneps37

Still chuckling at the concept of “benign federal agencies”.


5 posted on 08/19/2012 8:42:26 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: jmaroneps37
--this from the NRA may shed some light on this hysteria---

--You may recently have seen some in the Internet rumor mill feverishly repeating the obvious truth above, in an effort to stir up fear about recent acquisitions of ammunition by the Department of Homeland Security and a number of smaller agencies. The mildest writers have questioned why seemingly mundane agencies would need ammunition at all; more incendiary authors suggest that these government agencies are preparing for a war with the American people. Much of the concern stems from a lack of understanding of the law enforcement functions carried about by officers in small federal agencies. These agents have the power to make arrests and execute warrants, just like their better-known counterparts at agencies like the FBI. For instance, the Social Security Administration solicited offers for 174,000 rounds of pistol ammunition. But the agency has 295 special agents who combat Social Security fraud that costs tax payers billions each year, so the order works out to roughly 590 rounds of ammunition per agent for training, mandatory quarterly qualification shooting and duty use. More than a few NRA members would use that much ammunition in a weekend shooting class or plinking session. Another recent rumor questioned a request for 46,000 rounds of.40-caliber ammo by the National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration. NOAA inadvertently fueled that speculation through a clerical error that suggested the ammunition was destined for the National Weather Service. NOAA later clarified that the ammunition was actually for the little known Fisheries Office of Law Enforcement, which enforces laws against illegal fishing and marine life importation. The ammunition is for 63 personnel, amounting to about 730 rounds per officer. The most widespread of the recent rumors involves a Department of Homeland Security contract for a maximum of 450 million rounds of .40-caliber jacketed hollow-points, to be supplied over the next five years. After receiving numerous questions from his constituents regarding the contract, pro-Second Amendment U.S. Rep. Lynn Westmoreland (R-Ga.) and his staff set out in search of the truth. In a press release, Rep. Westmoreland's office explains: If you take the number of agencies that will be using this ammunition – CBP, Citizenship and Immigration Services, the Federal Emergency Management Agency (FEMA), ICE, the U.S. Secret Service, Transportation Security Administration, the DHS police force, and all the guards that protect the various buildings these agencies are housed in, and spread that out over 5 years, you start to see that 450 million rounds really isn't that large of an order. Especially considering it is used for training purposes like firing range and live fire exercises, on-the-job use (though that is very limited), and to shore up their supplies. In fact, there are 65,000 – 70,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS who would be covered under this … ammunition contract. If DHS were to purchase all 450 million rounds over 5 years, then that would equate to only about 1,384 rounds of ammo per year per law enforcement [officer] … assuming the lower estimate of only 65,000 law enforcement personnel at DHS. Considering those agents go through training exercises several times per year, that is not a lot of ammunition. Perhaps most strangely, some have cited the purchase of hollow-point ammunition as evidence of the federal government's evil motives. Hollow-points are the defensive ammunition of choice for federal, state and local law enforcement officers across the country, just as they are for private citizens. These attacks are eerily similar to statements made by gun prohibitionists, who spent the much of the '70s, '80s and '90s complaining about "dum dum" bullets. (In fact, the Violence Policy Center's website still exhibits a publication lamenting that federal ammunition law "has no effect on today's generation of high-tech hollow-point ammunition.") The attacks also ignore the fact that federal agents, unlike average taxpayers on more limited budgets, normally train and qualify with their duty ammunition. As most gun owners will agree, skepticism of government is healthy. But today, there are more than enough actual threats to the Second Amendment to keep gun owners busy. With two key Supreme Court decisions hanging by a one-vote margin, the Justice Department deeply involved in a cover-up of a disastrous Mexican gun smuggling operation, and President Obama touting a ban on popular semi-automatic firearms, there is no need to invent additional threats to our rights.

6 posted on 08/19/2012 8:50:36 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: jmaroneps37
George, you need an editor. Badly.

The answer could be that Barack Obama is coming for your guns by using a 1961 Secretary of State Declaration to incrementally and too bad for America’s Second Amendment rights.

Incrementally, what? And close the quotes. Geesh. I figured a staff writer would know better.

7 posted on 08/19/2012 9:14:14 AM PDT by upchuck ("Definition of 'racist:' someone that is winning an argument with a liberal." ~ Peter Brimelow)
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To: jmaroneps37

I wouldn’t worry too much. They’re more hunters with high powered rifles in this country than there are people in the largest standing armies in the world. A standoff on US soil would be suicide for an invading or occupying force.


8 posted on 08/19/2012 10:18:18 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: jmaroneps37

I wouldn’t worry too much. They’re more hunters with high powered rifles in this country than there are people in the largest standing armies in the world. A standoff on US soil would be suicide for an invading or occupying force.


9 posted on 08/19/2012 10:18:33 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: jmaroneps37

Total Bull Shiite....

We can’t even disarm Iraq and no way in hell are they going to disarm Americans.

They’ll start their raid on one block and it will all end on the next block with extreme prejudice.

Their numbers will automatically reduced by right thinking Americans who will not engage in that action.

Next will be the right thinking Americans who will be scared for the country and an even smaller minority who will be scared for their lives and the lives of their families.

If they come for your guns they will come for the guns of their own families and that’s not going to happen as they understand what the responsibilities of gun ownership entail and what the consequences of being left defenseless mean.

To be sure, these are great stories of fiction and we should be aware of them but, I repeat, there will be no disarmament of America and her citizens.

If it gets tried it will end like it did in Katrina where homeowners literally said “Come and get em if you want em so bad”.

That will be my response.


10 posted on 08/19/2012 10:24:58 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: factoryrat; jmaroneps37

Weren’t some of the largest Armies in the world recently in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and will invade those states again this deer hunting season?


11 posted on 08/19/2012 10:31:07 AM PDT by Vendome (Don't take life so seriously, you won't live through it anyway)
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To: jmaroneps37

Obama’s private army? They didn’t have to pledge to defend the Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic. So if they work for domestic enemy #1 they are not breaking their oath.


12 posted on 08/19/2012 12:13:42 PM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed &water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS, NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: Vendome

Weren’t some of the largest Armies in the world recently in Wisconsin and Pennsylvania and will invade those states again this deer hunting season?

Talk about numbers of shooters ... Texas turns out a BUNCH every deer season (and bow~n~arrows too).
Don’t know if we have as many as WI & PA but we got a bunch.


13 posted on 08/19/2012 12:14:14 PM PDT by sawmill trash (Gun control is like trying to solve drunk driving by making it harder for sober people to own cars.)
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To: Vendome

You forgot Michigan and the #1 state for hunting tags: Alabama. No shortage of high powered rifles, ammo, and marksmen in this country. I wouldn’t want to go up against them if things went bad.


14 posted on 08/20/2012 9:28:54 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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