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Elizabeth Warren: Undocumented Cherokee Only HLS Prof Not From Top 10 Law School
Maggie's Notebook ^ | 9-10-12 | Maggie@MaggiesNotebook

Posted on 09/10/2012 5:02:38 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook

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1 posted on 09/10/2012 5:02:47 PM PDT by maggiesnotebook
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; ColdOne; Convert from ECUSA; ...

Thanks maggiesnotebook.
Not only is Elizabeth Warren's claim of Native American blood in serious doubt (as in non-existence), so are her qualifications to teach at Harvard Law School (HLS).

2 posted on 09/10/2012 5:12:38 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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“Elizabeth Warren: Undocumented Cherokee”

That would make a great billboard!


3 posted on 09/10/2012 5:17:49 PM PDT by aquila48
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To: maggiesnotebook

One might generously think that Warren’s coming from a lesser-ranked school isn’t necessarily an indictment of her ability.

That said, knowing Harvard’s propensity for hiring pedigreed academics, it’s very hard to think she was so exceptional that she was hired for anything except her claimed ethnic heritage. She is the worst sort of hypocritical scum—a liberal who supports affirmative action and then cynically lies to take advantage of it.


4 posted on 09/10/2012 5:20:57 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: maggiesnotebook

With her complication and eye color, I’ll give her credit for having the nerve to play the Affirmative Action game. If she had only stayed put at Harvard, the world at large wouldn’t have noticed she was an Affirmative Action fraud.


5 posted on 09/10/2012 5:24:08 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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To: maggiesnotebook

complexion...


6 posted on 09/10/2012 5:26:15 PM PDT by CaptainK (...please make it stop. Shake a can of pennies at it.)
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I like complication better, lol. It fits her better.


7 posted on 09/10/2012 5:30:21 PM PDT by flaglady47 (When the gov't fears the people, liberty; When the people fear the gov't, tyranny.)
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To: Pearls Before Swine
That said, knowing Harvard’s propensity for hiring pedigreed academics, it’s very hard to think she was so exceptional that she was hired for anything except her claimed ethnic heritage.

By the time she was hired by Harvard, she was already a tenured professor at another Ivy League law school (UPenn). So, even though she did not graduate from a top law school, she did have something of an academic pedigree by the time HLS hired her.

8 posted on 09/10/2012 5:42:25 PM PDT by Conscience of a Conservative
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I have a coworker who is a card-carrying member of The Eastern Band.

Blonde hair, blue eyes. She can document her ancestry, something Elizabeth Warren refuses to do, to the point of repeatedly snubbing and stonewalling Cherokee genealogists and even tribal authorities.

She’s a Wannabee, a fraud. There is no other answer.


9 posted on 09/10/2012 5:44:38 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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It's funny, but I know a fellow who was actually on the Cherokee tribal council. He looks pretty "Indian", and so does one of his daughters, but his other daughter is blonde and has blue eyes (she gets teased about it, too).

Hardly anybody is of "pure" tribal heritage anymore, so given the right combination of genes you can have an honest-to-goodness 'blue-eyed Indian'.

Not that I believe one single word Fauxcahontas is saying . . . just that her complexion doesn't necessarily tell against her. Other things do, though.

10 posted on 09/10/2012 5:51:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: RegulatorCountry
What I was sayin' . . .

We reputedly have a Cherokee ancestor on my dad's side, and the family was living in WNC at the time, but there is NO way that I would make any sort of claim until I had run down the relationship and verified it.

I would certainly not put it forward as a basis for an affirmative action claim without documenting it fully. That's dishonest.

11 posted on 09/10/2012 5:59:45 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGS Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: maggiesnotebook

High cheek bones = Lie-a-watha.


12 posted on 09/10/2012 6:01:15 PM PDT by SERKIT ("Blazing Saddles" explains it all.......)
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Affirmative Action by its very nature is an inducement to all kinds of fraud on the part of those seeking its special privileges. While the original architects of Affirmative Action saw it as a way to ensure “fairness,” it inevitably became riddled with all kinds of corruption and injustice. This Elizabeth Warren story is undoubtedly just one of many Affirmative Action scandals.


13 posted on 09/10/2012 6:07:25 PM PDT by justiceseeker93
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This has got to fry Clare Dalton, an impressive former professor at the Harvard Law School. (liberal but otherwise quite impressive)

'Prof. Clare Dalton, who is married to Labor Secretary Robert B. Reich, sued Harvard in 1987 for discrimination when five male professors were granted tenure but she was not. Professor Dalton, who is now tenured at the Northeastern University School of Law, reached an out-of-court settlement with Harvard on Monday."

14 posted on 09/10/2012 6:10:59 PM PDT by ladyjane
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To: Conscience of a Conservative
By the time she was hired by Harvard, she was already a tenured professor at another Ivy League law school (UPenn). So, even though she did not graduate from a top law school, she did have something of an academic pedigree by the time HLS hired her.

That's a bit reassuring. At least she had more of an academic pedigree than that famous Constitutional Law instructor at University of Chicago. Still, judging from how they mentioned her as a diversity hire, it's hard not to think her claim affected the decision to select her.

15 posted on 09/10/2012 6:21:00 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: AnAmericanMother

The Guion Miller Roll is the best place to start for genealogical purposes. It’s later than the Baker Roll and contains newer and often additional/different information. It also lists all applicants, not just those accepted, even listing reasons for denial. Being denied does not necessarily mean the indiviual(s) were not Cherokee descendants. It can mean that they had lived apart from the tribe going back generations, certainly prior to 1835.

I have seven relatives on it, but only one in my direct maternal line. My great grandmother.


16 posted on 09/10/2012 6:28:43 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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Does this make her an undocumented non-immigrant? Surely she deserves some leg-up for bearing such an unwieldy burden.


17 posted on 09/10/2012 6:31:11 PM PDT by ModelBreaker
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To: RegulatorCountry
I had a distant cousin who married a Cherokee woman and went with her and their children on the Trail of Tears from Georgia to Oklahoma. I find some of their descendants in the later Cherokee rolls. On the census some of the descendants are listed as speaking only the Cherokee language. Because the white ancestry was Scots-Irish, it's possible that some of them had blue eyes, but I don't have any information about that.

I don't have any Cherokee or other American Indian ancestry, at least as far as I know. I did have some ancestors in Virginia in the 17th century so I could be descended from Pocahontas, I suppose. But I'm not sure that I would want to be related to John Randolph of Roanoke.

18 posted on 09/10/2012 6:40:54 PM PDT by Verginius Rufus
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***We reputedly have a Cherokee ancestor on my dad's side,***

My dad and uncles said we have a “Genuine Cherokee Princess” in our background. A deep look at our genealogy shows the only person who could be Cherokee was NOT Cherokee or any Indian background.

19 posted on 09/10/2012 6:46:52 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Verginius Rufus

I’ve got a legendary who-knows-how-many-greats great grandfather who would make Pocahontas a relative. Opechancanough, half brother of Chief Powhatan.

He reputedly raped Mary Sizemore in an attack during the Second Powhatan War, in 1622. Opechancanough himself was possibly the product of rape, by a priest from a Spanish fort further up the Chesapeake. He’s believed to have been “Don Luis” who was taken to Spain, something of a celebrity in certain circles. He was a “Werowance,” a chief, as was his half brother, what has historically been misconstrued as being similar to royalty as Europeans understood it.

That, you’d never prove. It is a persistent legend though. Unusually detailed and reasonably true to the few known written accounts.


20 posted on 09/10/2012 6:58:19 PM PDT by RegulatorCountry
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