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So were Piers Morgan and Christiane Amanpour dishonest about crime rates last night?
johnrlott.blogspot.com ^ | 20 December, 2012 | John Lott

Posted on 12/22/2012 9:47:47 AM PST by marktwain

From my appearance last night on CNN.

LOTT: Every place that guns have been banned, murder rates have gone up. You cannot point to one place, whether it's Chicago or whether it's D.C. or whether it's been England of whether it's been Jamaica or Ireland.

MORGAN: I'm sorry, but that's just a complete lie. It's a complete lie. The gun murder rate in Britain is 35 a year, average. You need to stop repeating a blatant lie, about what happens in other countries. [cross talk] No, you're not going to get away with this. You lied about it the other day. Thirty-five gun murders a year in Britain, eleven to twelve thousand in America. Stop lying, because what you say drives Americans to defend themselves.

After Morgan then claimed multiple times that I had lied, the video then shows that I tried to explain that there is a difference between levels and changes. In an obvious setup, Christiane Amanpour claimed that the murder rate in the UK had initially been flat after the ban and then fell.

Amanpour: After Dunblane, they put in these bans, they put in these punishments, fines, jail sentences, etc. and its true that straight afterwards there wasn't a huge change, but 2002/2003 until 2011 the rate plummeted by 44%.

Amanpour was clearly taking about the number of homicides so here is a chart for that (source here see Table 1.01 and the column marked "Number of offences currently recorded as homicide"). She is right that there were substantial increases in law enforcement activity, which one suspects should have been associated with reduced crime rates, but, even with that, how can she make the claims that she did about homicides?

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To: marktwain

BTTT


21 posted on 12/22/2012 6:16:03 PM PST by Luigi Vasellini (End the political class.......TERM LIMITS NOW!!!!!!!!!!)
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To: marktwain

The good new is since it was on CNN, hardly anyone saw it, LOL.


22 posted on 12/22/2012 6:17:50 PM PST by nascarnation (Baraq's economic policy: trickle up poverty)
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To: Theoria

Actually, both Chile and Argentina have higher homicide rates than the US, though they are the closest in Latin America.

The US has 5.2 homicides per 100,000, and Argentina has 5.4 while Chile has 8.1.


23 posted on 12/26/2012 11:58:08 PM PST by CaspersGh0sts
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