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If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?
The D.C. Clothesline ^ | 1/3/2013 | Dean Garrison

Posted on 01/07/2013 1:38:55 PM PST by EBH

I feel a tremendous responsibility to write this article though I am a little apprehensive. Thinking about the possibility of rising up against our own government is a frightening thing for many of us. I am not Johnny Rambo and I will be the first to admit that I do not want to die. The reason I feel compelled to write this, however, is simply because I don’t think the average American is equipped with the facts. I feel that a lot of American citizens feel like they have no choice but to surrender their guns if the government comes for them. I blame traditional media sources for this mass brainwash and I carry the responsibility of all small independent bloggers to tell the truth. So my focus today is to lay out your constitutional rights as an American, and let you decide what to do with those rights.

About a month ago I let the “democracy” word slip in a discussion with a fellow blogger. I know better. Americans have been conditioned to use this term. It’s not an accurate term and it never has been a correct term to describe our form of government. The truth is that the United States of America is a constitutional republic. This is similar to a democracy because our representatives are selected by democratic elections, but ultimately our representatives are required to work within the framework of our constitution. In other words, even if 90% of Americans want something that goes against our founding principles, they have no right to call for a violation of constitutional rights.

If you are religious you might choose to think of it this way… Say that members of your congregation decide that mass fornication is a good thing. Do they have the right to change the teachings of your God? The truth is the truth. It doesn’t matter how many people try to stray from it. Did I just compare our founders to God? In a way I did, but please note that I am not trying to insult anyone. For the purpose of the American Government our constitution and founders who wrote it are much like God is to believers. It is the law. It is indisputable.

Our founders did not want a “democracy” for they feared a true democracy was just as dangerous as a monarchy. The founders were highly educated people who were experienced in defending themselves against tyranny. They understood that the constitution could protect the people by limiting the power of anyone to work outside of it much better than a pure system of popularity. A system of checks and balances was set up to help limit corruption of government and also the potential for an “immoral majority” developing within the American People. We have forgotten in this country that we are ultimately ruled by a constitution.

Why is a democracy potentially just as dangerous as a monarchy? Let’s look at something that Benjamin Franklin said because it answers that question more fully and succinctly than I can.

Democracy is two wolves and a lamb voting on what to have for lunch. Liberty is a well-armed lamb contesting the vote. -Benjamin Franklin

Even 230+ years ago our founders were perceptive enough to realize that democracy was a dangerous form of government. How so? Because the citizens of a country can become just as corrupt as any government. We have seen evidence of this throughout history. Ask Native Americans and African-Americans if this population can become corrupt.

I think in 2012 we are seeing evidence of what Franklin was trying to tell us. Just because a majority of people may support certain ideas it does not mean that those ideas are just. In simple terms, just because most Americans love our president and voted for him, it does not mean that he has the power to go against our constitutional rights.

Next I’d like to review the text of the second amendment. It is very clear. This is the law of this land. So when Senator Feinstein or President Obama talk about taking your guns, you need to think about something. Are they honoring their sworn oath to uphold the constitution?

A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

This is a pretty clear statement. The fact is that it took 232 years for the Supreme Court to even rule on this amendment because it has never been successfully challenged. In 2008 a case of Columbia v. Heller the Supreme Court ruled that a handgun ban in Washington D.C. was unconstitutional. One also has to take this into consideration. The Supreme Court supports your right to own guns. If you want to research this decision further you can start here.

For those who try to debate the spirit of the 2nd amendment, they are truly no different from people who will try to take Biblical quotes out of context to try to support their immoral decisions. The founders were very clear on the intent of the 2nd amendment. Let me share a few quick quotes here:

The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

Firearms stand next in importance to the Constitution itself. They are the American people’s liberty teeth and keystone under independence … From the hour the Pilgrims landed, to the present day, events, occurrences, and tendencies prove that to insure peace, security and happiness, the rifle and pistol are equally indispensable . . . the very atmosphere of firearms everywhere restrains evil interference – they deserve a place of honor with all that is good. -George Washington

The Constitution shall never be construed….to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms. -Samuel Adams

I could find hundreds of quotes like these. This country was built on the right to bear arms. It was built on the rights of an individual to bear arms, regardless of what his government or neighbor happened to think. This is crystal clear. Ironically the people who voice their opinions against this right have their free speech protected by your guns. Without guns in this country, all other amendments become null and void, simply because “We the People” will lose our power of enforcement.

We need to keep this in mind as our “representatives” try to push gun bans. I don’t care if 99% of people are in support of gun bans (which is far from the case), it is a violation of our constitutional rights, plain and simple.

A constitutional republic protects the rights of the individual even when their ideas are very much in the minority. If I were the only person in America who believed in the 2nd amendment, I would still be within my rights to call upon it. You would all think I was insane and possibly celebrate if I was gunned down, but in the end I would be the only true American among us.

Our framers were very clear on this. If my government comes to take my guns, they are violating one of my constitutional rights that is covered by the 2nd amendment.

It is not my right, at that point, but my responsibility to respond in the name of liberty. What I am telling you is something that many are trying to soft sell, and many others have tried to avoid putting into print, but I am going to say it. The time for speaking in code is over.

If they come for our guns then it is our constitutional right to put them six feet under. You have the right to kill any representative of this government who tries to tread on your liberty. I am thinking about self-defense and not talking about inciting a revolution. Re-read Jefferson’s quote. He talks about a “last resort.” I am not trying to start a Revolt, I am talking about self-defense. If the day for Revolution comes, when no peaceful options exist, we may have to talk about that as well. None of us wants to think about that, but please understand that a majority can not take away your rights as an American citizen. Only you can choose to give up your rights.

Congress could pass gun ban legislation by a 90%+ margin and it just would not matter. I think some people are very unclear on this. This is the reason we have a Supreme Court, and though I do not doubt that the Supreme Court can also become corrupt, in 2008 they got it right. They supported the constitution. It does not matter what the majority supports because America is not a democracy. A constitutional republic protects the rights of every single citizen, no matter what their “elected servants” say. A majority in America only matters when the constitution is not in play.

I just wrote what every believer in the constitution wants to say, and what every constitutional blogger needs to write. The truth of the matter is that this type of speech is viewed as dangerous and radical or subversive, and it could gain me a world of trouble that I do not want. It is also the truth. To make myself clear I will tell you again. If they come for your guns it is your right to use those guns against them and to kill them. You are protected by our constitution.

Most of the articles I am reading on the subject are trying to give you clues without just coming out and saying it. I understand that because certain things in this country will get you on a list that you don’t want to be on. I may well be on that list. This blog is small and growing so I may not be there yet, but I have dreams. I also have my own list of subversives and anyone who attempts to deny my constitutional rights is on that list.

I am not the “subversive” here, it is the political representatives who are threatening to take away my inalienable rights. If they come to take my guns and I leave a few of them wounded or dead, and I somehow survive, I have zero doubt that I will spend a long time in prison and may face an execution. But I would much rather be a political prisoner than a slave.

If I go down fighting then I was not fighting to harm these human beings. I was simply defending my liberty and yours. It is self-defense and it is what our country was built on. We won our freedom in self-defense. We would not be ruled by a tyrannical government in the 1770′s and we will not be ruled in 2012 by a tyrannical government. There is no difference.

This is a case of right and wrong. As of now the 2nd amendment stands. It has never been repealed. If Feinstein or Barack have a problem with the constitution then they should be removed from office. They are not defending the constitution which they have sworn an oath to protect. It is treasonous to say the least. They would likely say the same about me, but I have the constitution, the founders, and the supreme court on my side. They only have their inflated egos.

I am not writing this to incite people. I am writing this in hopes that somehow I can make a tiny difference. I have no idea how many of my neighbors have the will to defend their constitutional rights. 2%? 20%? I am afraid that 20% is a high number, unfortunately. When push comes to shove many people may give up and submit to being ruled. I believe that our government is banking on this.

What I do know is that this country was founded by people who had balls the size of Texas and Patriotic Americans take shit off of no one, especially our own government. For evidence of that, you might research the Revolutionary War. My question is how many Patriots are left?

I would hope that our officials come to realize that, regardless of our numbers, we still exist because they are calling Patriotic Americans to action. They are making us decide if we want to die free or submit to their rule. I can not tell you where you should stand on that. I do know that it may make the difference between living a life of freedom or slavery.

You must start thinking about this because I believe that the day is coming soon and I personally believe it has already been planned. Not all conspiracy theories are hogwash. They may throw down the gauntlet soon and my suggestion is that you prepare yourself to react.

I mean no disrespect to our elected officials but they need to understand that “We the People” will not be disarmed. If they proceed then it is they that are provoking us and we will act accordingly. We are within our rights to do so.

For those who are in support of taking the guns, you need to ask yourself a very important question, and I am not just talking about the politicians, because if you support them, you have chosen your side.

IMPORTANT UPDATE From Dean Garrison!!! When this post originally went viral I was trying to answer every single comment and that lasted for almost 48 hours Then I came to grips with the fact that I am human and I can’t do it. If for no other reason I value my family and I can’t steal time from them to constantly be on the site. I want you all to know that I appreciate your support and good debate whether you agree or disagree. I also want to thank each and every American Patriot who has made the honorable choice to serve their country. Anyone who wants to repost this on their blog or website is also given permission to do so, so long as nothing is changed in the text of the article, and a link is provided back to this site. Again, thank you so much. I am humbled. This free wordpress blog has just gone from averaging 300 visitors per day 40,000-50,000 hits per day and I have no idea when things may return to normal. That was caused by the people that cared and not the author. I am just an average American that cares. Every Facebook share, retweet, and email is helping and please continue to support what you believe in. We make no money from this blog. We may someday, but for now it is our choice to offer the truth as we see it for the good of our country and not for anything material. Keep on sharing and let’s make them pay attention to us! No sane American really wants a Civil War. We want peace but we will not back down from a government that chooses to ignore our founding principles. I am forever in your debt and service. -Dean Garrison


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1 posted on 01/07/2013 1:38:58 PM PST by EBH
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To: EBH
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2 posted on 01/07/2013 1:40:57 PM PST by cripplecreek (REMEMBER THE RIVER RAISIN!)
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To: EBH
The strongest reason for people to retain the right to keep and bear arms is, as a last resort, to protect themselves against tyranny in government. -Thomas Jefferson

I can't argue with a word of that.

3 posted on 01/07/2013 1:42:16 PM PST by humblegunner
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To: EBH

Standing with Thomas Jefferson is standing on solid ground.


4 posted on 01/07/2013 1:43:21 PM PST by no-to-illegals (Please God, Protect and Bless Our Men and Women in Uniform with Victory. Amen.)
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To: EBH
I don't think it will come to that.

Their plan is to starve us.

5 posted on 01/07/2013 1:43:49 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the government. LIBERTY: When the government fears the people.)
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To: EBH

“If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?”

Our founding fathers thought so back in April, 1775.


6 posted on 01/07/2013 1:44:19 PM PST by WKUHilltopper (And yet...we continue to tolerate this crap...)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

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7 posted on 01/07/2013 1:45:12 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Their plan is to starve us. Explain? I know it is one of the legs of the progressive left, but I'm not seeing a huge issue with it...yet.
8 posted on 01/07/2013 1:50:58 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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To: EBH

You don’t have a responsibility to fight when they come for your guns. But, once the guns are gone, they will come for you. China is going to need food, and they own our debt. They can make us pay it back through labor we become conscripted to grow their food and build their shoes and iPads.

When the Five-Year Plan says that half of our agriculture output needs to go to China and we all work to pay taxes so we can receive our Obamacare and “entitlement” checks, it is only a short distance to the government deciding to levy a draft and to just come and take you out of your comfortable life to go work a collective for a few years.

That’s when its time to fight....and that’s when it is too damn late! The toughest part of making a rebellion is figuring out the timing. That’s what separates the terrorist from the freedom fighter, and the traitor from the patriot.


9 posted on 01/07/2013 1:51:26 PM PST by Bryanw92 (Sic semper tyrannis)
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To: EBH

They’re not going to come for your guns.

They’re going to destroy the industry, so you can’t get any more ammo or parts.
No, you can’t make barrels or primers.


10 posted on 01/07/2013 1:54:58 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: EBH

It is according on how much you care about living. It is according how much you care about your family. According to the Bible God gives man, not Government the responsibility of protecting his family. I would consider it my responsibility to fight. What others do is their perrogatve.


11 posted on 01/07/2013 1:56:12 PM PST by sport
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To: EBH

I have no intention of “fighting” the United States Government and it’s armed forces of any branch or agency. That being said, if Jane Sixpack doesn’t stop screaming for the fed to remove my 2nd Amendment rights I will slap her into burka. Cool?


12 posted on 01/07/2013 1:57:14 PM PST by The Toll
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To: WKUHilltopper

25,000 dead and 25,000 wounded paid the price.
Estimated 200,000 fought.
Figures are for US only.


13 posted on 01/07/2013 1:58:51 PM PST by Morris70
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To: EBH
When you hear Hillary talk about "food security," it ought to make the hair stand up on the back of your neck.

When Lefties use words, they always mean the opposite of what normal people would think they mean.

Depopulation Through Planned Governmental Starvation of U.S. Citizens

14 posted on 01/07/2013 1:59:09 PM PST by E. Pluribus Unum (TYRANNY: When the people fear the politicians. LIBERTY: When the politicians fear the people.)
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To: EBH

Do you believe you could live with yourself if you just surrender? Can you accept being told that you cannot be trusted?


15 posted on 01/07/2013 2:05:23 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ctdonath2
"No, you can’t make barrels or primers"?

Yes, you can!

16 posted on 01/07/2013 2:07:24 PM PST by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: ctdonath2

If each of us takes out 2, 3 or 4, we win


17 posted on 01/07/2013 2:07:24 PM PST by muir_redwoods (Don't fire until you see the blue of their helmets)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

What we need is a Minute man response. We need to pledge to help our members, Any gun owner/Freeper/patriot who lives within 4 or so hours from us. Then go to them when they need help.


18 posted on 01/07/2013 2:14:56 PM PST by Ab Alius Domitor ("In the end; the winner")
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To: EBH

The important part is that when they start losing the war, because they will lose, is that the Republican establishment is not at the negotiating table.


19 posted on 01/07/2013 2:17:38 PM PST by struggle (http://killthegovernment.wordpress.com/)
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To: EBH

do you know even one person who would give up their guns if “told” to do so?


20 posted on 01/07/2013 2:18:08 PM PST by faithhopecharity
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To: muir_redwoods
Given an approx. 10/1 numerical advantage at the start of festivities, 1 is enough, 2 is a bonus, 3+ is legend.
23 posted on 01/07/2013 2:28:41 PM PST by tomkat ( -/\/\/\-)
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To: EBH
BTTT

Dear Mr. Security Agent: A letter to law enforcement



24 posted on 01/07/2013 2:31:42 PM PST by EdReform (Oath Keepers - Guardians of the Republic - Honor your oath - Join us: www.oathkeepers.org)
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To: EBH

“Guns? What guns? I bought that gun safe because it looks really cool!”


25 posted on 01/07/2013 2:32:22 PM PST by TheRhinelander
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To: EBH

Keep in mind, there are many ways to fight.


26 posted on 01/07/2013 2:45:14 PM PST by Ellendra (http://www.ustrendy.com/ellendra-nauriel/portfolio/18423/concealed-couture/)
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To: EBH

without the second amendment, the entire Constitution is meaningless.


27 posted on 01/07/2013 2:46:53 PM PST by terycarl
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To: EBH

bump


28 posted on 01/07/2013 2:54:38 PM PST by saleman (!!!!)
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To: EBH

I won’t live in a world where only the government combatants and gang members have the guns. So that leaves me no choice.


29 posted on 01/07/2013 2:58:21 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: ctdonath2
They’re not going to come for your guns.

They’re going to destroy the industry, so you can’t get any more ammo or parts. No, you can’t make barrels or primers.


Therefore, we treat it as if they actually took the guns, and respond accordingly.
30 posted on 01/07/2013 3:00:32 PM PST by crosshairs (They are only assault weapons in the hands of tyrannical governments and criminals. Ban both.)
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To: EBH

Thanks for the post.


31 posted on 01/07/2013 3:11:48 PM PST by Buffalo Head (Illigitimi non carborundum)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

I am all for this idea but we really need to organize so we know who’s where.


32 posted on 01/07/2013 3:14:25 PM PST by gawatchman
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>>Explain? I know it is one of the legs of the progressive left, but I'm not seeing a huge issue with it...yet.<<

It would take less than three days to begin starving the people. Shut the trucking down foe some reason.

33 posted on 01/07/2013 3:16:10 PM PST by CynicalBear
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To: Ellendra
You don't win the war having a shootout at your house when you are one against many.

The gun grabbers won't win from their homes either when the armed masses show up and drag them from their beds.

It works both ways and there are far more of us.

34 posted on 01/07/2013 3:17:20 PM PST by Newbomb Turk (Patriotism is supporting your country all the time and politicians when they deserve it.)
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To: EdReform

Thanks For That!


35 posted on 01/07/2013 3:18:10 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: gawatchman
we really need to organize

Difficult to do without making everyone a target of:
1. BATF
2. Criminals
3. Liberals and other nuts

through infiltration.

36 posted on 01/07/2013 3:22:51 PM PST by grobdriver (Sic semper tyrannis!)
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To: ctdonath2

“No, you can’t make barrels or primers”

We’re Americans, we can make anything!


37 posted on 01/07/2013 3:24:48 PM PST by RS_Rider (I hate Illinois Nazis)
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To: Ab Alius Domitor

The “Minute Men” should also pledge to liberate it’s members from jail/prison if arrested for doing their “duty”.


38 posted on 01/07/2013 3:27:55 PM PST by Boiling point (Socialism; Ideas so good they have to be mandatory.)
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To: gawatchman
“I am all for this idea but we really need to organize so we know who’s where.”

Absolutely. A side benefit of organizing would be the fact that they'd come after us, try to provoke something.

39 posted on 01/07/2013 3:35:40 PM PST by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: Buffalo Head
I thought it was an interesting read.

And raised an interesting “patriot” question...

If, and or when they demand our guns ...

What will We the People do and how does one counter the democracy screed of majority rule over the Constitution? Answering some of those questions now may be very relevant to our future. Being able to mount the argument on the public square, perhaps even more valuable.

40 posted on 01/07/2013 3:50:00 PM PST by EBH (0bama is guilty of willful neglect of duty.)
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“without the second amendment, the entire Constitution is meaningless.”

What he said. So, to answer your question: YES.


41 posted on 01/07/2013 4:13:49 PM PST by tickedoffnow (No more...)
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To: crosshairs

Succinctly put.


42 posted on 01/07/2013 4:15:23 PM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: EBH

Duty

I never un-took my Oath

TT


43 posted on 01/07/2013 4:15:51 PM PST by TexasTransplant (This needs to go viral http://vimeo.com/52009124 please watch it)
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To: EBH
If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

It all depends on what your monthly financial expenditures are.

For example, what's your house mortgage payment? How much you paying for that 2012 Dodge Ram and/or that 2004 26' Sea Ray? You still putting your kid thru college?

So what's really important to ya, all of the above PLUS the kid's college education or giving up your guns?

And if you choose your guns, who's going to come to your rescue? The neighbor who chose "the above"?

44 posted on 01/07/2013 4:23:51 PM PST by Hot Tabasco (Jab her with a harpoon.....)
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To: cripplecreek
If our Federal Government can decide that regime changes in other nations are necessary and are part of our announced international policy why can't “We, the People” make the same decision for our own government?

Remember our Federal Government's policy is an exercise of political and military power. So, why shouldn't we be able to exercise the same types of power in our own rights?

45 posted on 01/07/2013 4:25:22 PM PST by Nip (BOHEICA and TANSTAAFL - both seem very appropriate today.)
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To: muir_redwoods
"If each of us takes out 2, 3 or 4, we win"

Yes. Another FReeper said to shoot once and go home. Excellent advice. A million cuts, at first. From everywhere. From nowhere.

 

46 posted on 01/07/2013 4:26:32 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: EBH

This is excellent! Of course we have the responsibility to protect the US Constitution and bury em!


47 posted on 01/07/2013 4:29:36 PM PST by gotribe (obama = the Great Divider)
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To: Boiling point

“The “Minute Men” should also pledge to liberate it’s members from jail/prison if arrested for doing their “duty”.”

Agreed.


48 posted on 01/07/2013 4:32:21 PM PST by APatientMan (Pick a side)
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To: EBH
"If, and or when they demand our guns ..."

Sadly, when push comes to shove, most will simply hand them over. A few will try to hide them, some may die facing overwhelming fire from far superior forces.

Why? Because this isn't the late 1700's early 1800's. Groups of armed men can't come together in safety as they once could.

Today the federal government can fly drones over you and wipe you out using the video from the drone to pinpoint where you, and a few friends that are holed up with you. They have missiles, you have a few rifles at best.

Even if 'we the people' had a few hundred shoulder launched missiles we would stand little chance of defeating what the US Army and US Airforce could deploy against a large number of rifle carrying civilians... sad to say.

49 posted on 01/07/2013 4:33:51 PM PST by Ron C.
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If They Come for Your Guns, Do You Have a Responsibility to Fight?

Yes.

You also have a responsibility to choose when, where, and how you engage the enemy.

Engaging a squad of soldiers on your doorstep with your babies sleeping upstairs, while romantic, is not calculated to move toward victory. It is a symbolic suicide.

The enemy should be engaged where they are weak, not where they are strong.

Fortunately, they have thousands of weak points - and most of them have absolutely no concept of what they are trying to stir up.

So, fight, yes, by all means - fight for victory, fight wise.

50 posted on 01/07/2013 4:35:49 PM PST by Jim Noble (Diseases desperate grown are by desperate appliance relieved, or not at all)
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