Guns Don’t Make You Safe

Civis Libertas ^ | 1/18/2013 | centinel

[civislibertas]

Holding a gun in your hands does not guarantee either your safety or your life. There is no surety that someone else won’t have bigger or better weapons and can still take what you consider valuable.

The whole point of holding a gun in your hands is that it raises the bar of consequence and therefore of the required level of intent for any attacker. The gun does not say, “you cannot kill me”. The gun says, “you can kill me, but until you do, I remain free”.

To that end, the bigger or better the weapon is, the more freedom you have. If your attackers have bigger and better weapons, your freedom is in danger of being diminished or extinguished. This is the same common sense logic that we apply to arming our military forces to defend our nation.

The second amendment to the US Constitution does not guarantee our right to bear arms, it merely restricts the right of the government to infringe upon the natural right that we have to be free and to defend our freedom. No words can either sustain or deny that natural right. They are only reminders that such undeniable rights exist.

[Mr. Lucky]

Ditto.

[Bob]

In my best Crocodile Dundee voice:

That's not a Bushmaster; THIS is a Bushmaster. :=)

[Ratman83]

Naps you need a longer nap, what he says in that quote is correct. The whole Constitution is a limit on the federal government it says what it can and cannot do. See the Tenth Amendment “The powers not delegated to the United States by the Constitution, nor prohibited by it to the States, are reserved to the States respectively, or to the people.”

[Ratman83]

Yeah.

[civislibertas]

Many seem to have stopped reading at the title. The point of the title was that there is no difference between saying, “guns don’t kill people” and “guns don’t make you safe”.

A gun is simply a tool, which can be used to magnify effort and intention. When the effort is evil, the evil can be made greater. When the effort is good, the goodness can be made greater. When you try to diminish evil done by a few with restricting access to guns from everybody, you also diminish the good done by the vast majority. Gun control diminishes good far more that it can ever diminish evil.

We are made safer by having guns in the hands of good people making good decisions. The more guns, the bigger and better the guns, the more good that can be done. It is the goodness that makes us safer, not the tool that is used.

Thank you for taking the time to read and understand.

[Yosemitest]

What an idiotic argument!
Practice firing for accuracy, practice drawing for speed, practice reloading for speed and confidence, practice defensive assault conditions for staying alive.
Practice ... practice .... practice.

The United States Citizens KNOW that they're going to have to fight TYRANTS in their own government.
You cannot protect life, without the ability to take life.

While you are WAITING for the police to respond, someone could be losing their life.
All people of a responsible age should be armed.

As EternalVigilance reminded us:

The Second Amendment IS Pro-Life.

"Among the natural rights of the Colonists are these:
First, a right to life;
Secondly, to liberty;
Thirdly, to property;
together with the right to support and defend them in the best manner they can.
These are evident branches of, rather than deductions from, the duty of self-preservation,
commonly called the first law of nature...
In short, it is the greatest absurdity to suppose it in the power of one, or any number of men, at the entering into society,
to renounce their essential natural rights, or the means of preserving those rights;
when the grand end of civil government, from the very nature of its institution, is for the support, protection, and defence of those very rights;
the principal of which, as is before observed, are Life, Liberty, and Property.
If men, through fear, fraud, or mistake, should in terms renounce or give up any essential natural right, the eternal law of reason and the grand end of society would absolutely vacate such renunciation.
The right to freedom being the gift of God Almighty,
it is not in the power of man to alienate this gift
and voluntarily become a slave."




-- Samuel Adams, The Rights of the Colonists

Click here to read the 12 page pamphlet.

Let us NEVER FORGET THAT !

Let's subjugate them to OUR end game, DUST!
"COMPROMISE" is a DIRTY word!
People who study the Bible know that COMPROMISE almost always leads to destruction.


It's time to mock the "Gun Control" Zombies!
"Gun Control" is a firm grip, steady breathing, accurate aim (developed by lots of practice), and a slow trigger pull.


The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
We need to learn from the Swiss and implement their "gun control measures" here in the United States right now, today!
These laws are the ones we should shove into the "2nd Amendment Haters" faces.

" Today, military service for Swiss males is universal. At about age 20, every Swiss male goes through 118 consecutive days of recruit training in the Rekrutenschule. ...

Even before required training begins, young men and women may take optional courses with the Swiss army's M57 assault rifle.
They keep that gun at home for three months and receive six half-day training sessions.

From age 21 to 32, a Swiss man serves as a "frontline" troop in the Auszug, and devotes three weeks a year (in eight of the 12 years) to continued training.
From age 33 to 42, he serves in the Landwehr (like America's National Guard); every few years, he reports for two-week training periods.
Finally, from ages 43, to 50, he serves in the Landsturm; in this period, he only spends 13 days total in "home guard courses."

Over a soldier's career he also spends scattered days on mandatory equipment inspections and required target practice.
Thus, in a 30-year mandatory military career, a Swiss man only spends about one year in direct military service.
Following discharge from the regular army, men serve on reserve status until age 50 (55 for officers).

By the Federal Constitution of 1874, military servicemen are given their first equipment, clothing and arms.
After the first training period, conscripts must keep gun, ammunition and equipment an ihrem Wohnort ("in their homes") until the end of their term of service.

Today, enlisted men are issued M57 AUTOMATIC assault rifles and officers are given pistol.
Each reservist is issued 24 rounds of ammunition in sealed packs for emergency use.
(Contrary to Handgun Control's claim that "all ammunition must be accounted for," the emergency ammunition is the only ammo that requires accounting.)

After discharge from service, the man is given a bolt rifle free from registration or obligation.
Starting in the 1994, the government will GIVE ex-reservists assault rifles. Officers carry pistols rather than rifles and are given their pistols the end of their service.

When the government adopts a new infantry rifle, it sells the old ones to the public.

Reservists are encouraged to buy MILITARY ammunition
(7.5 and 5.6mm-5.56 mm in other countries-for rifles and 9 and 7.65 mm Luger for pistols)
which is sold AT COST by the government, for target practice .
Non-military ammunition for long-gun hunting and .22 Long Rifle (LR) ammo are not subsidised, but are subiect to NO sales controls.
Non-military non-hunting ammunition more powerful than .22 LR (such as .38 Spl.) is registered at the time of sale.

Swiss military ammo must be registered IF bought at a private store, BUT NEED NOT BE REGISTERED IF bought at a range.
The nation's 3,000 shooting ranges sell the overwhelming majority of ammunition.
Technically, ammunition bought at the range must be used at the range, but the rule is barely known and almost never obeyed.

The army SELLS a variety of machine guns, submachine guns, anti-tank weapons, anti-aircraft guns, howitzers and cannons.
Purchasers of these weapons require an EASILY OBTAINED cantonal license, and the weapons are registered.
In a nation of six million people, there are at least two million guns, including 600,000 FULLY AUTOMATIC assault rifles, half a million pistols, and numerous machine guns.
Virtually every home has a gun.

Besides SUBSIDIZED military surplus, the Swiss can buy other firearms easily too.
While long guns require NO special purchase procedures, handguns are sold only to those with a Waffenerwerbsschien (purchase certificate) issued by a cantonal authority.
A certificate is issued to every applicant over 18 who is not a criminal or mentally infirm.

There are NO restrictions on the carrying of long guns.
About half the cantons have strict permit procedures for carrying handguns, and the other half have NO rules at all.
There is NO discernible difference in the crime rate between the cantons as a result of the different policies.

Thanks to a lawsuit brought by the Swiss gun lobby, semi-automatic rifles require NO PURCHASE PERMIT and are NOT registered by the government.
Thus, the ONLY long guns registered by the government are FULL AUTOMATICS."

The Swiss have got it CORRECT !
Let's adopt THEIR LAWS !

Remember:

The beauty of the Second Amendment is
that it will not be needed
until they TRY to take it.

Read Second Amendment: It’s Not About Hunting, IT'S ABOUT TYRANNY .

[Georgia Girl 2]

All hail Civislibtardus!

[Alas Babylon!]

What an idiotic reply you made!

Read the whole thing BEFORE you go off half-cocked!

[CodeToad]

“bigger or better weapons “

Typical liberal mindset that says a bigger gun is a better gun. Obviously written by someone that knows nothing about guns.

[Sir Napsalot]

Upon reading your #25 post, I went back to re-read your original post, I have misunderstood you.

My apologies, thanks for correcting me.

[Ratman83]

Ok, no harm no foul.

[Yosemitest]

I did!
The article stinks of liberalism!

[aimhigh]

“When a robbery victim does not defend himself, the robber succeeds 88 percent of the time, and the victim is injured 25 percent of the time. When a victim resists with a gun, the robbery success rate falls to 30 percent, and the victim injury rate falls to 17 percent. No other response to a robbery – from drawing a knife to shouting for help to fleeing – produces such low rates of victim injury and robbery success.”
Former Manhattan Assistant District Attorney David P. Koppel

[Yosemitest]

"The second amendment to the US Constitution does not guarantee our right to bear arms,"

If that isn't the most stupid statement I've every read, I don't know what is!
The Second Amendment to the US Constitution DOES not GUARANTEE OUR RIGHT TO BEAR arms !
Read it again, and get a better education!

"A well regulated militia, being necessary to the security of a free state,
THE RIGHT of THE PEOPLE to keep AND BEAR ARMS, shall NOT be infringed."

Many of us will KILL to defend that RIGHT !
You got that?
How STUPID can YOU get !!!

[Alas Babylon!]

Your reading comprehension is terrible.

The Constitution ENNUMERATES rights. We have these rights not FROM the government, but FROM God Almighty.

The 2nd amendment doesn't guarantee anything; rather, it restricts the government FROM passing laws that would attempt to remove our God-given rights.

The concept might be a little above your pay grade. I retired as an E-8, but then we were required to think about things and know the history of the Document we swore an oath to, not knee-jerk all out of proportion. What did you retire as? E-2?

The article is not Liberal at all, but is a thinking man's, one who understand history and the founding of this country, and a Christian man's, one who understand only God is righteous and good, and governments, made up by men, are always corrupt and/or corruptible, article.

You pounced without understanding. It was the headline, wasn't it?

[Yosemitest]

Well you've been doing too many drugs since you retired.
How did you get that E-8 stripe? By kissing up to the LIBERALS Clinton and Obama placed in charge of todays military?
You damned sure ain't no Senior, with that kind of twisted logic!
I been placed in charge of Air Traffic Control Towers and oversaw the Bush 41 visit in California.
You're a disgrace to the Air Force and to the patriots who defend the Constitution
if you believe that the Second Amendment doesn't GUARANTEE OUR RIGHT TO BEAR ARMS!

[Alas Babylon!]

It used to be on Free Republic, that people could post thought provoking articles, and anyone who didn’t read it completely and knee-jerked over it, would get the wrath of all the FReepers who were bright, intelligent conservatives.

We have devolved. Too many are loudmouth egotists who don’t read well or won’t read beyond the title. We used to ban those types—now they ban people like you. I’m sorry you’re continuing to get slammed for this.

To all you slammers—you are acting JUST LIKE Leftist babies. All emotion, no comprehension. And what is worse and laughable, is when someone points out your mistake, you double down and keep right on making it. That is so very democratic party of you!

[Alas Babylon!]

OK, let me be nice and not a jackass like you...

ALL the writer is saying is that we have, by virtue of being born creatures created by God Almightly, in His image, the right to defend ourselves from Evil. Do you believe that?

That just doesn’t apply to Americans, but to ALL men. Now many governments, princes, and tyrants have come and gone who tried to take that right away from us, and many succeeded in killing others to attempt it, but the right was still there, since it is from God.

What makes America and our Constitution so unique is that it spells out what the GOVERNMENT cannot do. “Congress shall make no law...” Do you see? Seriously. You seem to be a fervent support of the RIGHT to keep and bear arms, and I admire that, but in your fervency you’re making enemies out of people on your side...

[Yosemitest]

"ALL the writer is saying is
that we have,
by virtue of being born creatures created by God
[Almighty], in His image,

the right to defend ourselves from Evil.
Do you believe that?" I read no such statement in his article and and I challenge you to provide a link to such a statement.
While the fact that "I may believe that" is true, it's irrelevant to the fact that the Second Amendment Guarantees the right to bear arms.
Anyone who would suggest otherwise, should be expelled out of this country. Period.

And I can't believe anyone who has spent enough time in the Air Force to retire, would state otherwise.
A statement to say "IT DOES NOT GUARANTEE THAT RIGHT" is absolutely disgusting,
and make me call into question whether you ever serve in the military at all!