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Seven And Thirty: In NY, tax slaves are worth one-quarter of a government overlord
Western Rifle Shooters Association ^ | January 20, 2013 | Matt Bracken

Posted on 01/21/2013 4:58:56 AM PST by Travis McGee

Seven And Thirty: In New York, tax slaves are officially worth one-quarter of a government overlord.

Now and then you hear someone mention that during the slave era in American history, blacks in the South were worth only three-fifths of a full person. Paradoxically, or perhaps counter-intuitively, it was Southern slave owners who wanted to count black slaves as full people, for the purpose of congressional apportionment (while denying them the vote and most basic human rights). Northern abolitionists wanted blacks not to count at all, in order to deny the South congressional seats, and both sides agreed to a compromise of three-fifths. Regardless of how the fraction was arrived at, the idea of an antebellum slave being worth three-fifths of a full person has stuck.

Today in New York, an ordinary citizen is only worth seven-thirtieths of an elite government employee (who is, ironically, still referred to as “a servant of the people”). That is .233 if you do the division. Less than one-quarter; and one-quarter, if your math is rusty, is less than half of three-fifths. How did I arrive at the 7/30 ratio? Because today in New York, the proles are only permitted by their masters to own ammunition magazines with a maximum capacity of seven cartridges. This scant number, while the government elites are guarded by phalanxes of armed bodyguards carrying standard-capacity thirty-round magazines in their own semi-automatic “assault rifles.” Clearly, these elites consider their own lives to be worth four times more than ours.

I doubt that any members of the New York Legislature who voted for the new gun control law understand why the number seven is significant, compared to, say, six, or eight, or ten, or any other number up to and beyond thirty. Let me explain why it matters. Entire broad classes of firearms will be rendered illegal or not, depending on that arbitrarily chosen number.

For example, setting the number of allowable cartridges at seven means that thousands of New Yorkers who brought an M-1 Garand rifle home from World War II and Korea, or their heirs, will never again be allowed to fire them. This was the rifle wielded by Walt Kowalski in the film Grand Torino, when that dangerous old man growled, “Get off my lawn.”

Thousands more surplus Garands were sold to the law-abiding public for decades under the Civilian Marksmanship Program. The old Garand’s en-bloc clips hold eight rounds, one over the limit. There are no other clip sizes or options. Sorry, Grandpa, or Grandpa’s descendents. Gramps may have fought and bled on Normandy or Okinawa with that rifle, but after all these decades your government no longer trusts him or you to shoot it.

What a slap in the face of “The Greatest Generation,” to disarm them of their venerable M-1 Garands. This forty-four-inch rifle weighs ten pounds and fires the century-old .30-06 cartridge. Perfect for hunting, yet damn near useless for sticking up convenience stores. No matter.

But the same seven-round limit may mean a rebirth of interest in the century-old Colt .45 Model 1911 pistol. Its standard magazine holds seven big .45 caliber rounds. Good news, Old Sarge, you can keep the pistol you souvenired back from Korea! After sixty years, the government still trusts you with it—at least for now.

Which brings up another question: What about all the millions of Glocks and similar modern defensive pistols in private hands, whose original factory-made magazines typically hold between fourteen and twenty rounds? (Please note that these are not high capacity pistol magazines, these are standard capacity.) Each pistol usually has three or four magazines. Will the magazines all have to be destroyed?

But what about the police? Don’t they have countless thousands of Glocks and AR-15s? So far there is no “carve-out” granting law enforcement an exemption for the standard capacity magazines for their pistols and rifle-caliber patrol carbines. (That is, their “assault rifles.”) Don’t worry, I’m sure that an exception will swiftly be granted to law enforcement officers, so they can carry on performing their vital duties with the highest levels of firepower.

What is this, then? One set of rules for the masters, and another for the peasants?

That’s exactly what it is. But the political power elites will say that they need the greater firepower for their protection! To which I will ask, So my family doesn’t deserve the same opportunities for protection that are afforded to you? Because you are a ruler and I am the ruled, your life is worth four times more protection than mine? In New York, yes.

This is more than a theoretical or rhetorical point. This can be a question of life and death. I relate the recent true story of a young mother in Georgia, alone with her small children in her house while her husband was at work. A home invader pried open the young mother’s door with a crowbar, then searched the house for her and her children. She hid in the attic with her terrified children until he ultimately located her. The mother, in defense of her children, emptied her revolver, hitting him five times without killing him. In fact, he was able to walk out of the house. A good outcome, indeed. Five out of six shots did the job—barely—against a lone home invader.

But what if there had been two, or three, or more thugs? She and her children might very well be dead. If there is more than one home invader — and these crimes are typically carried out by small gangs, not individuals — a pistol with a standard-capacity magazine holding approximately fifteen cartridges might well prove the margin between life and death. But in New York, the decision about ammunition capacity is now being made for you. Make do with seven rounds—live or die — it’s simply not our problem.

Which brings me back to those exalted masters of the political universe, who pontificate against gun ownership among the plebes while surrounded by rings of bodyguards armed with pistols, shotguns, and “assault rifles.” You know the uber-elites I mean, the high government officials who can sniff out a network television camera from two city blocks away. Oh, how they rail against gun violence, and oh, how they wish society could be rid forever of the plague of guns! Then look around and behind them for the hard-faced men with the ear buds and reflective shades and suspicious bulges under their jackets.

If you can get close enough, ask these policemen, security agents and armed guards what magazine capacity they are limited to. They won’t answer you, they won’t even crack a smile. They may whisper into their throat mics about the suspicious character asking nosy questions. And their eminences? Those elite politicians at the center of that ring of firepower will pretend that you don’t exist as they’re being hustled from armored limo to luxury portal. Nevertheless, let’s imagine for just a moment that we have their attention.

New York Senator Chuck Schumer, do your bodyguards limit themselves to the same seven-round magazines that your state now mandates for the commoners? Governor Andrew Cuomo, chief proponent of the new gun control law, the same question to you. How many bullets in your bodyguards’ firearms? Mayor Michael Bloomberg, if you claim that your personal bodyguards do not have thirty-round magazines in their “patrol carbines” and full-capacity (that is, fourteen- to twenty-round capacity) magazines in their pistols, I will call you a liar to your face. We both know better.

Schumer, Cuomo, Bloomberg, and their ultra-hypocritical ilk will never stoop to answer my forthright questions about their own armed protection, but maybe you can do it for me. If you happen to run into them—or, for that matter, any New York politician or bureaucratic big shot traveling with a security detail—just ask them. For that matter, ask any cop at all. You New Yorkers are famously up-front and in-your-face people, right? So just ask them this:

“Hey, Buddy! Yeah, you, Lieutenant. How many bullets you got in that Glock? A seven-rounder? Didn’t know they made ’em. Why don’t you show it to me? How about that AR-15 in your squad car? Seven-round mags in there too? Oh, give me the dirty look, eh? Yeah, I see, I’m just a nobody. Just a working stiff, a real schmuck. Joe Taxpayer—just the guy who pays your salary, that’s all. Don’t worry, I get it. How could I be so stupid? I’m just worth one-quarter of your highness.”

Seven-thirtieths, to be exact.

But cheer up.

If President Obama has his way, outside of New York ordinary peons will be permitted (for a while) to own ten-round magazines. In that case, your life will be worth one-third of a government overlord’s.

Until they decide to downgrade the value of your life once again.

Matt Bracken graduated from the University of Virginia and UDT/SEAL training in 1979. He is the author of Enemies Foreign and Domestic and three other novels about defending freedom, as well as numerous essays on the same subject.


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Matt Bracken graduated from the University of Virginia and UDT/SEAL training in 1979. He is the author of Enemies Foreign and Domestic and three other novels about defending freedom, as well as numerous essays on the same subject.
1 posted on 01/21/2013 4:59:06 AM PST by Travis McGee
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2 posted on 01/21/2013 5:01:40 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Eaker; Absolutely Nobama; afnamvet; AK2KX; Ancesthntr; An Old Man; APatientMan; ApesForEvolution; ..

CW2 Ping


3 posted on 01/21/2013 5:02:49 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

RKBA

BTTT


4 posted on 01/21/2013 5:04:47 AM PST by thackney (life is fragile, handle with prayer)
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To: Travis McGee

New Yorkers....YOU voted for ‘em; reap it. Maybe one day you’ll snap out of it.


5 posted on 01/21/2013 5:12:58 AM PST by RightOnline (I am Andrew Breitbart!)
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To: thackney

Good essay!


6 posted on 01/21/2013 5:15:49 AM PST by Eaker (Manners are good when one may have to back up his acts with his life. — Robert A. Heinlein.)
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To: Travis McGee

Excellent article!


7 posted on 01/21/2013 5:17:30 AM PST by SampleMan (Feral Humans are the refuse of socialism.)
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To: Travis McGee

Well done.


8 posted on 01/21/2013 5:20:33 AM PST by AZ .44 MAG (Repeal Obama)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!
9 posted on 01/21/2013 5:24:50 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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10 posted on 01/21/2013 5:25:35 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
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11 posted on 01/21/2013 5:26:46 AM PST by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: Travis McGee

Bump


12 posted on 01/21/2013 5:37:53 AM PST by BulletBobCo
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To: RightOnline
I can assure you us Ny’ers on this site had nothing to do with voting that bunch of a$$ Clowns in.
13 posted on 01/21/2013 5:37:53 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: RightOnline
I can assure you us Ny'ers on this site had nothing to do with voting that bunch of a$$ Clowns in.

My State Senator, Joe Griffo,(R) voted against the bill.

14 posted on 01/21/2013 5:41:35 AM PST by Wilum (Never loaded a nuke I didn't like)
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To: Wilum

I never voted for this crap.


15 posted on 01/21/2013 5:42:01 AM PST by GlockThe Vote (The Obama Adminstration: 2nd wave of attacks on America after 9/11)
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To: Travis McGee

Bumping.

I’ll also take a minute to recommend this highly:

Tiananmen square activist turned American citizen demonstrates for the Second Amendment
http://youtu.be/I6_vCbi0JeI

This guy “gets” America better than the vast majority of native born Democrats.


16 posted on 01/21/2013 5:43:31 AM PST by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: Travis McGee

Bills of attainder and bills of pain and punishment are forbidden by the US Constitution. SCOTUS has ruled that states may not pass these laws in Calder v. Bull (1798).

C’mon, there has to be at least one honest lawyer who is not chasing ambulances or channeling the dead. Fight for our freedoms.


17 posted on 01/21/2013 5:46:08 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: Travis McGee

BTW—the STANDARD single-stack 9mm magazine holds EIGHT rounds.
That’s where the ‘7’ came from IMHO.


18 posted on 01/21/2013 5:46:08 AM PST by Flintlock (H)
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To: RightOnline

I sure as hell didn’t vote for Cuomo.


19 posted on 01/21/2013 5:47:44 AM PST by wastedyears (Obama and Democrats to Republicans: "LOL!")
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To: Travis McGee
How many bullets you got in that Glock? A seven-rounder? Didn’t know they made ’em.

They soon will.

20 posted on 01/21/2013 5:49:16 AM PST by Sherman Logan
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To: FreedomPoster

That’s Yang Li, he’s a very dedicated RKBA advocate, and he even bought a case of EFAD to give out to his group in New England! In fact, he just emailed me the link to that video! Small world! “STICK TO YOUR GUNS!”


21 posted on 01/21/2013 5:52:52 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee

Appreciate the post. Good one.


22 posted on 01/21/2013 5:57:48 AM PST by rockinqsranch (Dems, Libs, Socialists, call 'em what you will, they ALL have fairies livin' in their trees.)
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To: Travis McGee
Good morning.

Each and every day my status as a citizen devolves towards the status of a subject. There will come a point where that devolution will no longer be tolerated.

We are quickly approaching that point of no return. Then, it will get ugly, very ugly.

5.56mm

23 posted on 01/21/2013 6:00:47 AM PST by M Kehoe
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To: RightOnline

We are seeing the results of allowing them to ignore the Constitution with the Sullivan law passed in 1911 to protect organized crime.

100 years of being unable to bear arms for their own defense has conditioned them to believe that it is right and proper; that anyone who says otherwise is a moron.

It is why New York City is one of the epicenters for this nonsense.


24 posted on 01/21/2013 6:02:27 AM PST by marktwain
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To: Travis McGee
But the political power elites will say that they need the greater firepower for their protection!

You can bet that the LEO response would be that they are more often put in harm's way than we civilians are. To that I would point out that they also have trained back up available with a quick radio message, and you can d@mn well guarantee that the old adage about "When seconds count, the police are minutes away" doesn't apply to when they're responding to a fellow officer's distress call.

25 posted on 01/21/2013 6:03:53 AM PST by Hardastarboard (The Liberal ruling class hates me. The feeling is mutual.)
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To: Travis McGee
The Demoncrats have been progressing toward the establishment of semi-heredatary aristocracy since before the Civil War and now they are coming out into the open with it.
26 posted on 01/21/2013 6:05:29 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah, so shall it be again,")
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To: Travis McGee

I expect the ratio is even lower than stated. This does not factor in the fact that government “elites” may have more than one bodyguard.


27 posted on 01/21/2013 6:16:57 AM PST by generally (Don't be stupid. We have politicians for that.)
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To: M Kehoe
We are quickly approaching that point of no return. Then, it will get ugly, very ugly. 5.56mm

Right according to Zero's plan. I look for some cataclysmic event to happen within the next 24 months that will give him the "CRISIS" he wants to allow him to seize full tyrannical control over EVERYTHING. DICKtator for life like his sick buddy down in Venezuela.

I don't buy any of this crap about what an ignoramus this clown is - it is all unfolding according to the commies plan, with some interruptions along the way. F&F failed but along came Sandy Hook to take its place and see what he is doing??? All very clear to me.
28 posted on 01/21/2013 6:29:25 AM PST by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: Travis McGee

What timing!

http://www.therightscoop.com/ny-assemblyman-exposes-real-gun-control-confiscation-agenda-of-democrats/


29 posted on 01/21/2013 6:33:51 AM PST by bayouranger (The 1st victim of islam is the person who practices the lie.)
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To: bayouranger

30 posted on 01/21/2013 6:42:31 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Travis McGee
“Hey, Buddy! Yeah, you, Lieutenant. How many bullets you got in that Glock?"

The overlords don't like that kind of insubordination. If you speak to a cop, you risk a beat down.

31 posted on 01/21/2013 6:50:07 AM PST by UnwashedPeasant
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To: Travis McGee

Bright fellow, that Bracken.


32 posted on 01/21/2013 6:51:09 AM PST by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring; Travis McGee

Bright fellow, that Bracken.


So how long into the future will it be in places like New York where the Cop Cars will be traveling in pairs or having at least four officers per car?

Why I ask? Simple, it’s through laws like these that the “Elites” and the Police show their base fear of the populace that they are supposed to “serve” here in America.


33 posted on 01/21/2013 7:45:47 AM PST by The Working Man
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To: bayouranger
The "secret" list of these NY fascists needs to be revealed - over and over again.

It is a blueprint, only one or two very short steps from total confiscation, which is where it is no doubt intended to wind up. It would ban nearly all current models of rifles and pistols. But even this "permissive" blueprint would still retrograde New York's law abiding citizens back to the firearms technology of around 1861, the Civil War.

1. Confiscation of “assault weapons”
2. Confiscation of ten round clips
3. Statewide database for ALL Guns
4. Continue to allow pistol permit holder’s information to be replaced to the public
5. Label semiautomatic shotguns with more than 5 rounds or pistol grips as “assault weapons”
6. Limit the number of rounds in a magazine to 5 and confiscation and forfeiture of banned magazines
7. Limit possession to no more than two (2) magazines
8. Limit purchase of guns to one gun per person per month
9. Require re-licensing of all pistol permit owners
10. Require renewal of all pistol permits every five years
11. State issued pistol permits
12. Micro-stamping of all guns in New York State
13. Require licensing of all gun ammo dealers
14. Mandatory locking of guns at home
15. Fee for licensing, registering weapons”

Heck, even the old venerable Colt 1851 Navy Revolver (of which over 250,000 were made, plus multiples of that in various other models) carried 6 rounds, with more firepower than allowed by the above "blueprint", and were available for civilian use!

With this "bleuprint", New York peasants would now be limited to 5 rounds - until more stringent measures were enacted,... for the "safety and security" of the children and the public, of course!

34 posted on 01/21/2013 7:49:50 AM PST by Gritty (The 2nd Amendment protects the right to shoot tyrants effectively, not deer-Judge Andrew Napolitano)
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To: Travis McGee
The time has come for us to again answer Patrick Henry:

"Are we at last brought to such humiliating and debasing degradation, that we cannot be trusted with arms for our defense?"

35 posted on 01/21/2013 8:10:54 AM PST by DTogo (High time to bring back The Sons of Liberty !!)
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To: Travis McGee
But the same seven-round limit may mean a rebirth of interest in the century-old Colt .45 Model 1911 pistol. Its standard magazine holds seven big .45 caliber rounds. Good news, Old Sarge, you can keep the pistol you souvenired back from Korea! After sixty years, the government still trusts you with it—at least for now.

Or, as occurred with the '94 10 round limit, an explosion of tiny pocket pistols in .45 ACP and 10mm and even tinier .40 and 9mm ones. I have such a small, single stack 9, a KelTec. However my somewhat compact .45 ACP has an 8 round double stack magazine, and is now banned in New York.

Both magazines are "out of stock", including at KelTec's own site. Imagine that. People buying them so they can turn them in to the government? I think not.

36 posted on 01/21/2013 8:17:34 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Travis McGee
They rammed that law through in less than 24 hours from introduction in the state Senate, around midnight, to House passage and signing by the governor the next afternoon.

Watch for Obummer, Reid and Pelosi to try the same thing.

The House, under Speaker Jellyfish, is the only thing that stands in the way of something similar passing at the federal level.

37 posted on 01/21/2013 8:24:34 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Travis McGee
They rammed that law through in less than 24 hours from introduction in the state Senate, around midnight, to House passage and signing by the governor the next afternoon.

Watch for Obummer, Reid and Pelosi to try the same thing.

The House, under Speaker Jellyfish, is the only thing that stands in the way of something similar passing at the federal level.

38 posted on 01/21/2013 8:24:50 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: Travis McGee

“New York Senator Chuck Schumer, do your bodyguards limit themselves to the same seven-round magazines that your state now mandates for the commoners?”

Um...it’s not limited to commoners. Word is... In their absurd haste, legislators forgot to exempt cops from the prohibition.
Not that the ruling class is subject to their own laws.


39 posted on 01/21/2013 8:56:53 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: NTHockey
Bills of attainder

Definition: A legislative act that singles out an individual or group for punishment without a trial.

Unfortunately this is not one, nor is it, technically an ex post facto law. It would only punish possession, etc, after the date of enactment. It might be a "taking" law, in violation of the Takings clause of the fifth amendment. Have to see more details to tell. But it's in gross violation of the Second Amendment, which the Supreme Court has ruled applies to the states as well as the federal government. So if they are willing to ignore that, they'll ignore the more esoteric violations of the Constitution as well. New York's Constitution has no RKBA provision.

40 posted on 01/21/2013 9:05:41 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: GlockThe Vote; Wilum
I never voted for this crap.

But you're going to have to live with it, one way or another. If we had a real Attorney General and President, you could look to the federal government for some help, with the lawsuits at least, but with what we have, you're SOL as far as that goes.

Ironic, as I type this, The Won is being re-immaculated.

Excuse me while I go hurl/barf/toss my cookes, etc, etc.

41 posted on 01/21/2013 9:10:45 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: GlockThe Vote; Wilum
I never voted for this crap.

But you're going to have to live with it, one way or another. If we had a real Attorney General and President, you could look to the federal government for some help, with the lawsuits at least, but with what we have, you're SOL as far as that goes.

Ironic, as I type this, The Won is being re-immaculated.

Excuse me while I go hurl/barf/toss my cookes, etc, etc.

42 posted on 01/21/2013 9:11:07 AM PST by El Gato ("The second amendment is the reset button of the US constitution"-Doug McKay)
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To: El Gato

It punishes possession that was legal at the time that the purchase was made. While it may not be a bill of attainder (punishment for treason); it would be a bill of pains and punishments.

There are so many levels on which this “law” is unconstitutional that, if the SCOTUS would somehow find it constitutional, then there is no freedom, no liberty, no Constitution. We will be right back where we started in 1775, only with a dictator instead of a king.


43 posted on 01/21/2013 9:55:07 AM PST by NTHockey (Rules of engagement #1: Take no prisoners)
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To: M Kehoe
Worse than a subject, when you consider all of the scapegoating of the evil bitter clingers that is happening.


44 posted on 01/21/2013 10:16:48 AM PST by Travis McGee (www.EnemiesForeignAndDomestic.com)
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To: Flintlock

There is no “standard single stack 9mm” per se.
Methinks the 7 limit is really a hit on the M1 Garand. While the AR15 is the quintessential modern militia firearm (full auto issues aside), the M1 is the definitive American battle rifle of US history - a fact which modern Leftist simply cannot abide. It has no characteristics which render it scary or objectionable, no black plastic or pistol grip or flash hider or unlimited size magazine. It doesn’t even hold 10 rounds. So to destroy any semblance of legal military weapons, including the most mundane battle rifle which would never be used in a random crime, the only option was to prohibit 8 round clips.


45 posted on 01/21/2013 10:44:05 AM PST by ctdonath2 (End of debate. Your move.)
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To: Travis McGee

I thought the cops and pols bodyguards had full on select fire weapons.


46 posted on 01/21/2013 11:19:54 AM PST by jjm2111
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To: Travis McGee; Joe Brower

Thanks for the pings, gentlemen. Much appreciated.


47 posted on 01/21/2013 11:29:24 AM PST by TheOldLady
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To: Travis McGee

This might be my favorite commentary you have written Matt. Excellent explanation of the way the elites are dividing themselves from us.


48 posted on 01/21/2013 11:31:44 AM PST by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: Travis McGee

This is an interesting development:

http://www.fiscalconservatives.com/videos/oiv731vNaTw.html


49 posted on 01/21/2013 11:52:51 AM PST by antisocial (Texas SCV - Deo Vindice)
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To: Travis McGee

I thought the cops and pols bodyguards had full on select fire weapons.


50 posted on 01/21/2013 11:56:29 AM PST by jjm2111
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