Posted on 03/09/2013 8:04:06 AM PST by Cold Case Posse Supporter
Now we are finally getting somewhere. Just like Obama is ineligible technically because his fathers British Nationality 'governed' his birth status in 1961, Ted Cruz is ineligible too. Fox News has confirmed it and rightly so. Sean Hannity made a huge blunder the other day and declared Ted Cruz a natural born citizen because he was born to a American mother in Canada. He was so wrong. Cruz is a 14th Amendment U.S. 'statutory' (not natural born) citizen which is something completely different than a Article 2 Section 1 Constitutional natural born Citizen which is explicitly designed only for the presidency by the framers.
Constitutional fixes in the here and now is what is needed...not some opinion from a book!
Here, I think, Fox is the tool. Hillary2016 or Johnsey Grahamcain is behind this; they might have even sent minions about to stir things up.
Thank you!!!! I like Jindal too, but he is not eligible. What happened with Obama was an abomination that must be brought to light and rooted out.
“Look, this entire NBC thing is not the cornerstone of America.”
Hmmm… let me think for a moment.
Oh, I got it!
It’s ok to throw out the parts of the Constitution that WE don’t like or want to bypass to further our interests, but….
…. when the other side does exactly that, that’s “subverting the Constitution!” and should not be permitted, eh?
If the Constitution isn’t “the cornerstone of America”, what is?
When I was a baby I lived in a boiler shed.
That Don't make me a piece of coal or homeless.
It was a transitional time. My parents were building a house, they had allegiances to the neighborhood. Some asshole wagging his finger and saying you had no address at age 2 mos does not make me not an American.
Yeah, they're real experts, all right.
And you're correct. They have absolutely nothing to support the position from case law or the writings of the Framers.
It all began when people started twisting the Constitution because they didn't like Obama. Unfortunately, that was tolerated.
Their Constitution-twisting never hurt Obama in the least, but now it threatens to hurt us.
How could George Washington be a naturalized citizen if he was born before the nation?
Which is exactly what Vattel said in § 215. - 'By the law of nature alone, children follow the condition of their fathers, and enter into all their rights (§ 212); the place of birth produces no change in this particular'.
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Coincidentally (or not) the laws of the Republic of Kenya say pretty much the same-
Chapter 6 - Citizenship - Section 87
Persons who became citizens on 12th December, 1963
1. Every person who, having been born in Kenya, is on llth December. 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December, 1963: Provided that a person shall not become a citizen of Kenya by virtue of this subsection if neither of his parents was born in Kenya.
2. Every person who, having been born outside Kenya is on llth December, 1963 a citizen of the United Kingdom and Colonies or a British protected person shall, if his father becomes, or would but for his death have become, a citizen of Kenya by virtue of subsection (1). become a citizen of Kenya on 12th December. 1963.
Obama, being a natural born British subject, was 'grandfathered' into the Republic of Kenya with his father....just as the Founders were 'grandfathered' into our own Constitution!
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Honestly, I don't know if the Founders would laugh or just shoot us for how we've taken a very simplistic concept and convoluted it almost beyond recognition.
Natural born citizenship is independent of location and strictly hereditary ....you get it from your parents. If they are both not citizens at the time of your birth, you are NOT 'natural born'.
Yes, it certainly is.
I'm not saying all of the birthers are trolls trying to exploit a division in conservative ranks, but I'll bet a lot of them are.
It's a myth that if SCOTUS ruled once and for all on the meaning of "natural born citizen", it would satisfy the birthers. It absolutely WOULD NOT satisfy them and they would claim conspiracy (John Roberts got death threats was a common one in the aftermath of the ACA ruling) or else jury nullification.
Nothing will satisfy the birthers because they know the issue sows dissension. Just like liberals never want workable solutions to any of the crises they're always screaming about. They want the problems to stay front and center so they can use them for political power.
Technically they couldn’t have been nbC simply because their parents, although born in this country, were born subjects of England.
Bingo!!
If you had read the constitution, you would know that there is a section that specifically addresses the issue of tjose born before the creation of the United States.
I liked what I saw of Ted Cruz during the filibuster--more impressive than Marco Rubio. His father came to the US in 1957, 13 years before he was born, and eventually became a US citizen, but I don't know when that happened. If it was after 1970, the Democrats are sure to claim that Cruz is not eligible to become President.
You know? I quite honestly would not begrudge my neighbor of Mexican roots the presidency if he was a conservative that believed in the ideals of the Nation and declared himself proudly an AMERICAN.
This is my test.
Obama failed this test miserably.
This past national election cycle, my State of Washington had at least two foreign nationals on the ballot as candidates for President. No way was either eligible.
I firmly believe that the eligibility requirements for national offices - House of Representatives, Senate, President and Vice President - must be addressed at the state level. All aspiring candidates must PROVE they meet the Federal Constitution’s eligibility requirements. Otherwise we will continue to see our sovereignty hacked away by Progressives and Globalsists.
No, actually they are too.
So are Eskimos, Mexicans, Central Americans and South Americans.
I'd be willing to take that bet as well.
My information has it that Cruz’s father was a Cuban living in Canada when Ted was born and who actually supported Castro for a time.
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