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Is Cattlemen Armed Insurrection the New Form of American Protest? (Amazing!)
Ring Of Fire Radio: Robert Kennedy Jr, Mike Papantonio and Sam Seder ^ | April 15, 2014 | Joshua De Leon

Posted on 04/17/2014 10:07:33 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

The cattle-ranch protest in Nevada was an armed insurrection by the Tea Party. One thousand Tea Party, so-called “patriots,” came to Bunkerville, NV, brandished weapons and the government backed down. Other mass protests in America have either ended in arrests or violent clashes between authorities and protesters.

There is an obvious double standard here because the government relented and turned away. Why did the government do this? The main difference between many other mass protests and the cattle-ranch protest is that the cattle-ranch protesters were armed with handguns and assault rifles.

Is American in such a state where the new formula of effective protest comes in the form of armed insurrection? Let’s hope not. It shouldn’t be.

There have been many past instances where standoffs ended in violence and injustice. The Wounded Knee incident in 1973 is a strong example of such injustice. The American Indian Movement (AIM) was a standoff with the U.S. Marshals Service and the FBI at the Pine Ridge Indian Reservation.

The standoff started when AIM leadership and hundreds of activists representing the Oglala Lakota tribe stood in protest in the town of Wounded Knee against the corrupt tribal president Richard Wilson. The siege lasted for over two months, and after an armed standoff with government officials, the protest was destroyed, the government reclaimed control of Wounded Knee, and Wilson retained office, despite charges of voter fraud and intimidation. Two protesters were killed and 13 others were injured.

Once again, the federal government failed the Native Americans.

Then there’s the Kent State shooting where the Ohio National Guard killed four students and injured nine, some suffering from permanent paralysis as a result of their injuries. The most tragic thing about Kent State was that the students were unarmed and protesting against American occupation in Vietnam.

The result was the same at Kent State as it was at Wounded Knee. People protesting for a popular and just cause were gunned down and silenced by the government. Uncle Sam got his way.

Fast forward to the Occupy Movement. Thankfully, no shots were fired and no one was killed. However, an unarmed mass of young protesters were dismantled by government intervention and many Occupy protesters were hauled away to jail. Another mass assembly for a popular cause broken down by the federal government.

So, why in the hell does the Tea Party get a pass? Is it because they’re white Americans with guns? The federal government certainly didn’t back down against the MOVE Organization in Philadelphia. Local law enforcement even went as far as to drop a bomb onto the West Philadelphia MOVE headquarters in 1985. The FBI supplied the bomb to the Philadelphia police.

There is an obvious double standard here. But what’s the x-factor? Is it race? Guns? Demographics? Ideology? Or a combination of many things?


TOPICS: Agriculture; Conspiracy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: blm; bundy; bunkerville; occupy; peacecreeps; talkradio; teaparty
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To: greeneyes
Responsible people with guns are just that. They typically don't scream and yell and toss rocks. They are responsible. And the threshold of violence goes up quite a bit when one is armed. I have known people to get in fist fights over words. That is an unwise thing to do when armed.

I imagine that some on the BLM side of things understood that as well. The guns that the cowboys and the militia and the wives and daughters had were not for show. They were for their protection if so needed.

It would not surprise me that at some time in the future the Feds will need to install provocateurs into the people's ranks in order to fire the first shot.

Like the reports of snipers at Kent State. When no tangible evidence existed for that.

Hmm. Seems like when a group of Feds IS facing an enemy with known or presumed snipers, they are less willing to fight.

21 posted on 04/17/2014 11:45:48 PM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 21twelve
Well, during the Vietnam protests there were agitators who were specifically trying to provoke authorities into over reacting, and mainstream media who were trying to hype the protesters, just like they do today.

And we also had people who were deliberately trying to start riots.So Kent State today would likely be a blood bath 10 times worse.

Government authorities armed to the teeth with military equipment, gear, and snipers have no business being used against peaceful protesters. That's what the riot gear is for.

However, Boston demonstrated that we have indeed chosen a path a militarized type police state.

22 posted on 04/18/2014 12:07:41 AM PDT by greeneyes (Moderation in defense of your country is NO virtue. Let Freedom Ring.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Soap Box, Ballot Box, Ammo Box?

How many protestors crapped on a BLM Vehicle? Just asking.


23 posted on 04/18/2014 12:12:18 AM PDT by Kickass Conservative (Nobody owes you a living, so shut up and get back to work...)
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To: greeneyes

“Well, during the Vietnam protests there were agitators who were specifically trying to provoke authorities into over reacting...”

Good point. It doesn’t mean ONLY a Fed operator, but a wacko like that KKK guy that shot up that Jewish center or someone similar. Trying to provoke a civil war or whatever for their own purposes.


24 posted on 04/18/2014 12:24:28 AM PDT by 21twelve (http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2185147/posts 2013 is 1933 REBORN)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Beats the hell out of Gandi using human shields.


25 posted on 04/18/2014 1:07:56 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: babygene

I guess one must be weak and gang raped like little kids, the way Obama was raised. It makes for so much more popularity to be weak and a whore protester. I suppose it could charm a few sick privilegist cops.


26 posted on 04/18/2014 1:13:18 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
brandished weapons and the government backed down.

I believe they faced them unarmed. This person is not too bright. And probably all anti-gun obsessed.

27 posted on 04/18/2014 1:28:17 AM PDT by MarMema (Run Ted Run)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

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28 posted on 04/18/2014 2:18:36 AM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun. Cattlegate..0'Caligula / 0'Reid? ;-)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

If this had happened in NY, NJ, IL, MA, CA, OR, or WA the BLM would have opened fire and many protestors would have been killed.

Only because NV has so many ranchers and open carry laws was this allowed.

If it happens again in a hard blue state - be prepared.....


29 posted on 04/18/2014 2:23:35 AM PDT by Arlis
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

BLM does not have legal police powers granted by congress, so its swat team was not legal. The BLM has the right though to hire police services on contract. BLM employees do not have authority to confront, harrass, or intimidate citizens as you can see them doing on several of the videos. BLM behavior was illegal. Taking the cattle was actually theft.


30 posted on 04/18/2014 2:37:03 AM PDT by Rapscallion (Obama is the corruption of America - economic, criminal, judicial, political, sexual, and more)
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To: MaxMax

I think you are mistaken that IR can see through walls.


31 posted on 04/18/2014 2:50:13 AM PDT by Yardstick
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Kent State
1.the protesters were mostly outside agitators
2. The girl usually depicted was a runaway and part time prostitute not a student
3. SDS organized this and they were throwing rocks bottles Nd construction debris at the soldiers who were Nat Guard and not trained in crowd control

A tragedy yes but not the way it is usually depicted by azz wipes like RFK jr


32 posted on 04/18/2014 3:07:39 AM PDT by Jimmy Valentine (DemocRATS - when they speak, they lie; when they are silent, they are stealing the American Dream)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

“NEW YORK CITY?”

“Get a rope.”


33 posted on 04/18/2014 3:10:23 AM PDT by RichInOC (Jesus is coming back soon...and man, is He ticked off. (I'm trying to keep it clean.))
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

This article, more specifically, the author is a nutcase, really.

What a bunch of revisionist, one sided crap.

Wounded Knee? Kent State? Occupy Wall Street?

Three historical conflicts with three extremely different purposes and results. The author then says everyone who came to Bunkerville was a Tea Party ‘so-called’ Patriot and then proceeds to whine about why “they got a pass”.

Where, my friend, in your pea brain recollection does Ruby Ridge Fall? Where does Waco fall?

My 10 year old grand daughter could have made a better argument for any of her causes than this. The article gives the term ‘sophomoric’ a bad name.


34 posted on 04/18/2014 3:10:49 AM PDT by Gaffer (Comprehensive Immigration Reform is just another name for Comprehensive Capitulation)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

The X factor was the thousands more that we’re on the way.


35 posted on 04/18/2014 3:51:47 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

At Waco and other places the Feds could go the the motel and relax after their shift. They had America at their back.

Things have changed. Now they have America at their back.


36 posted on 04/18/2014 3:57:11 AM PDT by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

We see Obama backing down from Putin because he doesn’t want violence (a liberal mantra) ... Would he back away from domestic violence for the same reason? Looks like he did. This doesn’t compute for me because I really believe he is arming to control the masses ... But if the masses hold a gun....


37 posted on 04/18/2014 4:33:22 AM PDT by ThePatriotsFlag ("There never was a democracy yet that did not commit suicide." - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Has Josh NEVER been taught the history of Our Second Amendment?Does she believe it is just for duck hunting or the gun range target shoot? Has he/she/it been so misled by public education that they believe only domestic terrorists carry guns? Was this guy an accolade for Harry Reid? Or just a democratic Party paid activist?What I do not understand is WHY there are so many ignorant people who rant about the evil?
TEA Party? The ol boys ignorance is painted by his white animus. Has he forgotten Marcus? This was a MAD Magazine reject as satire right?


38 posted on 04/18/2014 4:58:08 AM PDT by StonyBurk (ring)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would feel more in jeopardy within 100 meters of a Kennedy operating anything with and internal combustion engine in it than I would standing next to the Bundy family.


39 posted on 04/18/2014 5:00:40 AM PDT by donozark (The voices inside my head may not be real, but they have some good ideas!)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
First off the numbers reported in NV were way low. There were a lot of units active in the sage brush and spread out. The government thugs like a group to come against in a small area. They then use over whelming force and crush the protesters in one controlled sweep. Small unit gorilla warfare is there worst night mare. It's not the night that scares them but the unseen bump in the night. If the goons would have started this in NV you would have seen SUA from coast too coast and border too border.
40 posted on 04/18/2014 5:38:38 AM PDT by lostboy61 (Lock and Load and stand your ground!)
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