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The Ambitious Plan to Teach 100,000 Poor Kids to Code (Guess who's in charge of it?)
Time ^ | June 19, 2014 | Denver Nicks

Posted on 06/19/2014 8:04:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

#YesWeCode looks to close the coding inequality gap

Shortly after Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February 2012, liberal activist Van Jones was talking with his friend Prince—yes, that Prince—about the circumstances of the shooting.

More “I think he made the observation,” Jones told TIME, “that when African-American young people wear hoodies people think they’re thugs, but when white kids wear hoodies you assume that they’re going to be dot-com billionaires,” a reference to the outerwear favored by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and his ilk. “We just started thinking: ‘Well, how do we turn that around?’”

Out of that spark was born Yes We Code, an ambitious initiative of Jones’ Rebuild the Dream organization aimed at preparing 100,000 low-income children for careers writing computer code. While good-paying blue-collar jobs continue to disappear in the U.S., computer science is a rare bright spot of opportunity for people without a college education. “This is another opportunity for people to make a really serious, solid middle-class income,” said Jones, a former environmental aide in the Obama Administration.

It’s an old yarn by now that computer science is one of the fastest-growing, highest-paying career paths in America. By 2020, half of all jobs in the STEM (Science, Tech, Engineering and Math) fields will be in computing, according to the Association for Computer Machinery. The latest salary survey from the National Association of Colleges and Employers says the average starting salary for computer science majors in 2014 is more than $61,000—just about $1,000 shy of the top earners, engineering grads.

Contrast that with the fact that computer science education in STEM has seen a decrease in enrollment in the last 20 years, with a particularly precipitous drop in the past decade as school districts have reconfigured curriculums....

(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Computers/Internet; Education; Government
KEYWORDS: black; blacks; computers; hightech; prince; siliconvalley; trayvon; vanjones
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1 posted on 06/19/2014 8:04:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

good luck on this one


2 posted on 06/19/2014 8:05:52 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, right!


3 posted on 06/19/2014 8:05:55 PM PDT by The_Media_never_lie (The media must be defeated any way it can be done.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

And yet Suckerberg wants to vastly expand H-1b visas to import their replacements.


4 posted on 06/19/2014 8:07:01 PM PDT by Vince Ferrer
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Yeah, it’s that simple.
Oye


5 posted on 06/19/2014 8:07:20 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD.
000300
000400*
000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
000600 CONFIGURATION SECTION.
000700 SOURCE-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
000800 OBJECT-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
000900
001000 DATA DIVISION.
001100 FILE SECTION.
001200
100000 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
100100
100200 MAIN-LOGIC SECTION.
100300 BEGIN.
100400 DISPLAY “ “ LINE 1 POSITION 1 ERASE EOS.
100500 DISPLAY “Hello world!” LINE 15 POSITION 10.
100600 STOP RUN.
100700 MAIN-LOGIC-EXIT.
100800 EXIT.


6 posted on 06/19/2014 8:07:52 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy ("Harvey Dent, can we trust him?" http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HBsdV--kLoQ)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Why don’t they just teach these kids to make Ferraris instead? s/


7 posted on 06/19/2014 8:08:48 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Ouchthatonehurt

Are they going to chemically raise their IQ somehow?


8 posted on 06/19/2014 8:08:51 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million for ANY 2016 pro-2nd Amendment candidate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
You can't code if you can't read.
9 posted on 06/19/2014 8:10:32 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: max americana

Because they’re not Italian.


10 posted on 06/19/2014 8:16:15 PM PDT by shibumi (Cover it with gas and set it on fire.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

11 posted on 06/19/2014 8:17:25 PM PDT by Diana in Wisconsin (I don't have 'Hobbies.' I'm developing a robust Post-Apocalyptic skill set...)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

They have employment for life. With rare exceptions like mass layoffs, certain employees are not fired no matter what.


12 posted on 06/19/2014 8:18:56 PM PDT by petitfour
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To: rdcbn

Hack’n for Treyvon!


13 posted on 06/19/2014 8:19:56 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: petitfour

That day is almost over, IMO.


14 posted on 06/19/2014 8:21:47 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million for ANY 2016 pro-2nd Amendment candidate.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I think there are a couple of good points here.

One, a self-avowed communist is embracing capitalism.

Two, if he can get black kids interested in education, kudos.
Maybe they can get rid of the stigma of black kids studying who are then accused of acting white. Its not acting white. Its doing what works.

I wish him success.


15 posted on 06/19/2014 8:22:40 PM PDT by joshua c (Please dont feed the liberals)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I can vouch for its passing... information technology is now a contractable commodity.


16 posted on 06/19/2014 8:24:02 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I hope he pours ALL of this time into this and spends $100 million doing it.

I think after he finishes tearing his hair out he’s going to learn a very, very good lesson.


17 posted on 06/19/2014 8:24:22 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: joshua c

It would sure be one way of getting around the “acting white” canard.


18 posted on 06/19/2014 8:24:32 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

10 goto 10

Programming is fun.


19 posted on 06/19/2014 8:25:09 PM PDT by FXRP
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To: gaijin

Naw! As soon as the kidz discover the fun of writing malware it’s in like Flint.


20 posted on 06/19/2014 8:25:18 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: HiTech RedNeck
Just what the world needs, a new iPhone app that automatically processes gang banger lookout information to track police movements or an app to filter twitter accounts looking for snitches.

Their motto - “keeping apps relevant for brothers keeping it real”

21 posted on 06/19/2014 8:27:25 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

I would like to learn coding myself, but the few computer classes I’ve taken become very boring very quickly. I’ll keep looking for the right class and the right instructor.


22 posted on 06/19/2014 8:30:23 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: rdcbn

and don’t forget the app that will find you a gun in less that 2 seconds...


23 posted on 06/19/2014 8:36:00 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
“There’s a ton of wasted genius in low-opportunity communities,” Jones said,

Well, now I've seen everything. Van Jones saying something I agree with. My contention for years has been that the personal resources of the black community are America's greatest wasted asset.

If these rich black men want to spend their money to incentivize black youth, it's fine with me. More power to them. I withhold judgment until I see results however. They could just as easily join the Jesse Jackson/Jim Brown racial scam brigade.

24 posted on 06/19/2014 8:40:53 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: lee martell

I would like to learn coding myself, but the few computer classes I’ve taken become very boring very quickly. I’ll keep looking for the right class and the right instructor.


Obviously you have not yet discovered the appropriate learning environment

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hYQcCE_yhDI

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=O-zpOMYRi0w


25 posted on 06/19/2014 8:41:01 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Great. I look forward to the Rap Virus.


26 posted on 06/19/2014 8:41:09 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: Tennessee Nana

and don’t forget the app that will find you a gun in less that 2 seconds...


and for chasing down all of the mixer components to make purple drank


27 posted on 06/19/2014 8:43:24 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet; rdcbn

A few observations:

1) There is no coding language in Ebonics;
2) To code, English must be read;
3) At least they won’t hack or write malware - that would be called a code “cracker”...


28 posted on 06/19/2014 8:45:04 PM PDT by Old Sarge (TINVOWOOT: There Is No Voting Our Way Out Of This)
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To: Old Sarge

3) At least they won’t hack or write malware - that would be called a code “cracker”...


Now that’s just so wrong :-)


29 posted on 06/19/2014 8:46:52 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Thanks for posting this. An interesting subject.

“that when African-American young people wear hoodies people think they’re thugs, but when white kids wear hoodies you assume that they’re going to be dot-com billionaires,”

hmmmm..... wonder who they could blame that on ?

“We just started thinking: ‘Well, how do we turn that around?’”

Well... we could lower our standards to rock bottom.


30 posted on 06/19/2014 8:48:16 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: rdcbn

[good luck on this one]

I code. Coding is hard. Good luck indeed.


31 posted on 06/19/2014 8:50:52 PM PDT by DaxtonBrown (http://www.futurnamics.com/reid.php)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A guy in our fortran class made this interesting comment (Which I agree with):

The difference between Fortran , Cobol, and Assembler is...

In Assembler you tell the machine what to do.
In Fortran you ask it.
And in Cobol, you get on your knees and beg.


32 posted on 06/19/2014 8:55:23 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

In basketball, you can’t coach height. In IT, you can’t teach IQ or creativity.


33 posted on 06/19/2014 8:57:56 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: FXRP
10 goto 10

What we used to call 'an infinite loop', and the shortest one possible.

I wrote one that was:

10 Print "hello"

20 Go to 10

Ran it on the agencies' minicomputer. Brought everything else to a complete halt. Never used that one again.

34 posted on 06/19/2014 9:00:51 PM PDT by UCANSEE2 (Lost my tagline on Flight MH370. Sorry for the inconvenience.)
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Good luck with that. Writing computer code for public use is one of the most tedious jobs in the world. Some people are cut out for it, most are not. Moreover it tales a good bit of knowledge of common things such as the English language and mathematics to be any good at it.

As usual, the dumb just keep getting dumber


35 posted on 06/19/2014 9:00:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: ClearCase_guy

and it is as easy as that

and Hello back at ya


36 posted on 06/19/2014 9:01:35 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: gaijin

Would you trust the code these kids would write? I can only imagine the crash of American life as their poorly written code induced all kinds of problems. And would you trust them not to include some deliberate sabotage code if they actually learned how to code?


37 posted on 06/19/2014 9:04:23 PM PDT by EinNYC
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Of all the things Van Jones has tried in the past, at least this one is somewhat defensible, even noble. That being said, it's an uphill battle.

To code well, you need several attributes:
— Ability to read and quickly comprehend technical material
— Ability to think logically
-- The ability to break down large problems into smaller, solvable pieces.
-- Reasonable math ability. Maybe not calculus to be a programmer, but algebra and trig are a must. You MUST take calculus, however, if you want a BS degree in computer science.
— Perhaps most importantly though: patience and perseverance. If you can't deal with frequent frustration (and over come it), programming is not for you.

In short, these are skills that most Americans lack, let alone those in the inner city. Can't help but wonder if Mr. Van Jones ever coded himself? I'll wager not.

38 posted on 06/19/2014 9:05:55 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: ClearCase_guy

About 27 years ago I bumped into McFarland while on vacation in Australia. (The M of RM-COBOL).

Nice guy.


39 posted on 06/19/2014 9:18:01 PM PDT by FreedomPoster (Islam delenda est)
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To: rdcbn

Sudden I find myself eager for the next class. Here’s one entitled “Have You Ever Matriculated?


40 posted on 06/19/2014 9:22:36 PM PDT by lee martell
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To: HiTech RedNeck
As soon as the kidz discover the fun of writing malware it’s in like FlintFlynn.

"In like Flynn" is a slang phrase meaning "having quickly or easily achieved a goal or gained access as desired". - Wikipedia

Regards,

41 posted on 06/19/2014 9:27:15 PM PDT by alexander_busek (Extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Sounds good on the face of it, train your own people in preference to importing thousands on H-1B visas.

We’ll see how it turns out.


42 posted on 06/19/2014 9:28:12 PM PDT by 1066AD
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To: alexander_busek

I’m being mischievous on purpose here.


43 posted on 06/19/2014 9:34:54 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: rdcbn

Ghetto coding


44 posted on 06/19/2014 9:35:28 PM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: joshua c

Hundreds of thousands of dollars and man-months of tutoring did what for his ‘girl-friend’. ZIP. NADA. The head of the effort gave up saying that girl is just not motivated and our effort has been a failure.


45 posted on 06/19/2014 10:23:45 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: UCANSEE2
“that when African-American young people wear hoodies people think they’re thugs, but when white kids wear hoodies you assume that they’re going to be dot-com billionaires,”

Uh, NO, I've NEVER thought of white kids with their pants around their ankles, wearing a hoodie, not making eye contact being "potential billionaires".

I think of them as potentially dangerous gangsta-wannabes.

In fact, I avoid them, as I would ANYONE else who wants to play thug.

What cretin even THINKS like this?

46 posted on 06/19/2014 10:39:46 PM PDT by boop (I just wanted a President. But I got a rock.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

COBOL?

My god, what’s next? BAL?


47 posted on 06/19/2014 11:08:24 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: ClearCase_guy

Now that I think about it, COBOl should be taught. With global warming, all those Y2K programmers frozen in time will be long thawed out and dead by Y3K.


48 posted on 06/19/2014 11:09:51 PM PDT by EQAndyBuzz ("Heck of a reset there, Hillary")
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

When I returned to college in the mid 1980s, I got a “work study job” as a computer lab assistant. It came easy to me because I was an enthusiast from the time the first personal computers and programmable calculators became available.

At that time there were many students who despite a complete lack of aptitude wanted to have a career in computer programming. Many of them tried and worked hard, but just couldn’t get it. It seemed sad to me at the time because failing left many feeling disillusioned.

Maybe it is different now because kids grow up surrounded by electronics. Although I think that it might be worse. I grew up in a time when software was often distributed in the pages of magazines and books. One had to type the actual program out to use it. This gave one a sense of how the program actually worked and in fact that was often the point. These days I think most people are strictly consumers of computer programs and make no effort to understand the mechanics.

I fear this program probably is a recipe for disaster and a boondoggle.


49 posted on 06/19/2014 11:09:54 PM PDT by fireman15 (Check your facts before making ignorant statements.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

First, teach ‘em to DEcode — you know, READ!


50 posted on 06/19/2014 11:12:46 PM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great -- until it happens to YOU..)
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