Skip to comments.The Ambitious Plan to Teach 100,000 Poor Kids to Code (Guess who's in charge of it?)
Posted on 06/19/2014 8:04:57 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet
#YesWeCode looks to close the coding inequality gap
Shortly after Trayvon Martin was shot and killed in February 2012, liberal activist Van Jones was talking with his friend Princeyes, that Princeabout the circumstances of the shooting.
More I think he made the observation, Jones told TIME, that when African-American young people wear hoodies people think theyre thugs, but when white kids wear hoodies you assume that theyre going to be dot-com billionaires, a reference to the outerwear favored by Facebook founder Mark Zuckerberg and his ilk. We just started thinking: Well, how do we turn that around?
Out of that spark was born Yes We Code, an ambitious initiative of Jones Rebuild the Dream organization aimed at preparing 100,000 low-income children for careers writing computer code. While good-paying blue-collar jobs continue to disappear in the U.S., computer science is a rare bright spot of opportunity for people without a college education. This is another opportunity for people to make a really serious, solid middle-class income, said Jones, a former environmental aide in the Obama Administration.
Its an old yarn by now that computer science is one of the fastest-growing, highest-paying career paths in America. By 2020, half of all jobs in the STEM (Science, Tech, Engineering and Math) fields will be in computing, according to the Association for Computer Machinery. The latest salary survey from the National Association of Colleges and Employers says the average starting salary for computer science majors in 2014 is more than $61,000just about $1,000 shy of the top earners, engineering grads.
Contrast that with the fact that computer science education in STEM has seen a decrease in enrollment in the last 20 years, with a particularly precipitous drop in the past decade as school districts have reconfigured curriculums....
(Excerpt) Read more at time.com ...
good luck on this one
And yet Suckerberg wants to vastly expand H-1b visas to import their replacements.
Yeah, it’s that simple.
000100 IDENTIFICATION DIVISION.
000200 PROGRAM-ID. HELLOWORLD.
000500 ENVIRONMENT DIVISION.
000600 CONFIGURATION SECTION.
000700 SOURCE-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
000800 OBJECT-COMPUTER. RM-COBOL.
001000 DATA DIVISION.
001100 FILE SECTION.
100000 PROCEDURE DIVISION.
100200 MAIN-LOGIC SECTION.
100400 DISPLAY “ “ LINE 1 POSITION 1 ERASE EOS.
100500 DISPLAY “Hello world!” LINE 15 POSITION 10.
100600 STOP RUN.
Why don’t they just teach these kids to make Ferraris instead? s/
Are they going to chemically raise their IQ somehow?
Because they’re not Italian.
They have employment for life. With rare exceptions like mass layoffs, certain employees are not fired no matter what.
Hack’n for Treyvon!
That day is almost over, IMO.
I think there are a couple of good points here.
One, a self-avowed communist is embracing capitalism.
Two, if he can get black kids interested in education, kudos.
Maybe they can get rid of the stigma of black kids studying who are then accused of acting white. Its not acting white. Its doing what works.
I wish him success.
I can vouch for its passing... information technology is now a contractable commodity.
I hope he pours ALL of this time into this and spends $100 million doing it.
I think after he finishes tearing his hair out he’s going to learn a very, very good lesson.
It would sure be one way of getting around the “acting white” canard.
10 goto 10
Programming is fun.
Naw! As soon as the kidz discover the fun of writing malware it’s in like Flint.
Their motto - “keeping apps relevant for brothers keeping it real”
I would like to learn coding myself, but the few computer classes I’ve taken become very boring very quickly. I’ll keep looking for the right class and the right instructor.
and don’t forget the app that will find you a gun in less that 2 seconds...
Well, now I've seen everything. Van Jones saying something I agree with. My contention for years has been that the personal resources of the black community are America's greatest wasted asset.
If these rich black men want to spend their money to incentivize black youth, it's fine with me. More power to them. I withhold judgment until I see results however. They could just as easily join the Jesse Jackson/Jim Brown racial scam brigade.
I would like to learn coding myself, but the few computer classes Ive taken become very boring very quickly. Ill keep looking for the right class and the right instructor.
Obviously you have not yet discovered the appropriate learning environment
Great. I look forward to the Rap Virus.
and dont forget the app that will find you a gun in less that 2 seconds...
and for chasing down all of the mixer components to make purple drank
A few observations:
1) There is no coding language in Ebonics;
2) To code, English must be read;
3) At least they won’t hack or write malware - that would be called a code “cracker”...
3) At least they wont hack or write malware - that would be called a code cracker...
Now that’s just so wrong :-)
Thanks for posting this. An interesting subject.
that when African-American young people wear hoodies people think theyre thugs, but when white kids wear hoodies you assume that theyre going to be dot-com billionaires,
hmmmm..... wonder who they could blame that on ?
We just started thinking: Well, how do we turn that around?
Well... we could lower our standards to rock bottom.
[good luck on this one]
I code. Coding is hard. Good luck indeed.
A guy in our fortran class made this interesting comment (Which I agree with):
The difference between Fortran , Cobol, and Assembler is...
In Assembler you tell the machine what to do.
In Fortran you ask it.
And in Cobol, you get on your knees and beg.
In basketball, you can’t coach height. In IT, you can’t teach IQ or creativity.
What we used to call 'an infinite loop', and the shortest one possible.
I wrote one that was:
10 Print "hello"
20 Go to 10
Ran it on the agencies' minicomputer. Brought everything else to a complete halt. Never used that one again.
Good luck with that. Writing computer code for public use is one of the most tedious jobs in the world. Some people are cut out for it, most are not. Moreover it tales a good bit of knowledge of common things such as the English language and mathematics to be any good at it.
As usual, the dumb just keep getting dumber
and it is as easy as that
and Hello back at ya
Would you trust the code these kids would write? I can only imagine the crash of American life as their poorly written code induced all kinds of problems. And would you trust them not to include some deliberate sabotage code if they actually learned how to code?
To code well, you need several attributes:
— Ability to read and quickly comprehend technical material
— Ability to think logically
-- The ability to break down large problems into smaller, solvable pieces.
-- Reasonable math ability. Maybe not calculus to be a programmer, but algebra and trig are a must. You MUST take calculus, however, if you want a BS degree in computer science.
— Perhaps most importantly though: patience and perseverance. If you can't deal with frequent frustration (and over come it), programming is not for you.
In short, these are skills that most Americans lack, let alone those in the inner city. Can't help but wonder if Mr. Van Jones ever coded himself? I'll wager not.
About 27 years ago I bumped into McFarland while on vacation in Australia. (The M of RM-COBOL).
Sudden I find myself eager for the next class. Here’s one entitled “Have You Ever Matriculated?
"In like Flynn" is a slang phrase meaning "having quickly or easily achieved a goal or gained access as desired". - Wikipedia
Sounds good on the face of it, train your own people in preference to importing thousands on H-1B visas.
We’ll see how it turns out.
I’m being mischievous on purpose here.
Hundreds of thousands of dollars and man-months of tutoring did what for his ‘girl-friend’. ZIP. NADA. The head of the effort gave up saying that girl is just not motivated and our effort has been a failure.
Uh, NO, I've NEVER thought of white kids with their pants around their ankles, wearing a hoodie, not making eye contact being "potential billionaires".
I think of them as potentially dangerous gangsta-wannabes.
In fact, I avoid them, as I would ANYONE else who wants to play thug.
What cretin even THINKS like this?
My god, what’s next? BAL?
Now that I think about it, COBOl should be taught. With global warming, all those Y2K programmers frozen in time will be long thawed out and dead by Y3K.
When I returned to college in the mid 1980s, I got a “work study job” as a computer lab assistant. It came easy to me because I was an enthusiast from the time the first personal computers and programmable calculators became available.
At that time there were many students who despite a complete lack of aptitude wanted to have a career in computer programming. Many of them tried and worked hard, but just couldn’t get it. It seemed sad to me at the time because failing left many feeling disillusioned.
Maybe it is different now because kids grow up surrounded by electronics. Although I think that it might be worse. I grew up in a time when software was often distributed in the pages of magazines and books. One had to type the actual program out to use it. This gave one a sense of how the program actually worked and in fact that was often the point. These days I think most people are strictly consumers of computer programs and make no effort to understand the mechanics.
I fear this program probably is a recipe for disaster and a boondoggle.
First, teach ‘em to DEcode — you know, READ!
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