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Conservatives say the U.S. has done enough to create equality for blacks. Young liberals agree.
The Washington Post's Wonk Blog ^ | July 1, 2014 | Emily Badger

Posted on 07/01/2014 1:19:05 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet

One last dip into a big Pew survey we've been discussing about on the politics and policy views of Americans. Pew surveyed more than 10,000 adults earlier this year on topics ranging from their views of Hillary Rodham Clinton to taking the bus, and the report divides their responses along a set of political typologies that group respondents into generally coherent categories across the range of policy issues: i.e., the "business conservative," the "solid liberal," the young "next generation left."

Across that spectrum, there is not surprisingly wide disagreement on racial progress in America and the steps government still must take to achieve it. Most of the results on this chart are fairly predictable: Conservatives broadly believe that the government much done all it needs to to ensure equal rights for blacks. Liberals, with one striking exception, overwhelmingly disagree:

The views of young, affluent liberals stand out. In fact, they align more closely with conservatives than other liberal groups. So what's going on here? Are younger liberals so far removed from the Civil Rights era that they've become disconnected from the memory of overt discrimination it sought to end? Perhaps this cohort, which strongly supports gay marriage, believes that the front in the fight for equality has moved on to new beneficiaries?(continued)

(Excerpt) Read more at washingtonpost.com ...


TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: blacks; equality; polls; reparations
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To: Albion Wilde
“faith and family leftist”

It gets defined in the Pew report as somebody who is socially conservative, but believes in government and social welfare programs.

21 posted on 07/01/2014 3:11:12 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: grania
It is a race to the bottom to find cheap labor.

If we didn't have the illegal immigrants, we would have been further along with really cheap labor: robots. Lack of cheap human labor creates demand for automation.

22 posted on 07/01/2014 3:14:55 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
Lack of cheap human labor creates demand for automaton

I'd much rather have that than have the US be overrun by invaders who have no regard for our laws or culture.

Besides that, I suspect something unintended might happen. People will develop a desire for simpler hand-made things to fill the void left by computers dehumanizaing everything. It'll create demand for craftsmen, home project skills, restaurants that are more personalized. I think you're already seeing that in some environments. Add to that wages for the population increasing when there is no unnecessary competition from invaders, and the technology won't be anywhere near the threat that the invasion is.

If it upsets Chamber of Commerce types and other cheap labor elitists, that's just icing on the cake.

23 posted on 07/01/2014 3:25:29 PM PDT by grania
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To: grania

When I was a kid making my own bed everyday, well straightening the covers at least, was an expected thing from the time I was about five. Putting my dirty clothes in the laundry hampers started much earlier than that. Just keeping my room clean, doing dishes, getting the clothes off the line and helping take the garbage out were chores that I grew into. That was the basis for my weekly allowance, half of which went straight into the piggy bank. At a real young age I learned about work and money.


24 posted on 07/01/2014 3:55:34 PM PDT by B4Ranch (Name your illness, do a Google & YouTube search with "hydrogen peroxide". Do it and be surprised.)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet

Libs probably saw this trend years ago, and that’s why it’s all gay all the time.

Problem is that gays are only 1% of the population, so when the newness wears off, where are the votes going to come from?

Bring in Blowhard-Pinhead overwhelming the system with sudden waves of immigration?


25 posted on 07/01/2014 4:12:21 PM PDT by Free Vulcan (Vote Republican! You can vote Democrat when you're dead...)
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To: PapaBear3625
It gets defined in the Pew report as somebody who is socially conservative, but believes in government and social welfare programs.

Got it; thanks. I wrote several snarks but I erased them.

26 posted on 07/01/2014 5:07:37 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: 2ndDivisionVet
Forget Democrats and Republicans, Americans Actually Have 8 Distinct Political Ideologies
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3174378/posts

Interesting. Thanks for the link.

27 posted on 07/01/2014 5:23:25 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: nascarnation
I was down in SW Missouri visiting relatives and the Mexicans Catholics who worked the chicken processing plants have gone on welfare replaced by black Somalis muslims.

There. Fixed it.

28 posted on 07/01/2014 5:26:08 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: PapaBear3625
If we didn't have the illegal immigrants, we would have been further along with really cheap labor: robots. Lack of cheap human labor creates demand for automation.

You are so right. Japan and some South American countries are beating the pants off us in automotive assembly and other tech's because they are not forbidden by unions to use advanced robotics.

29 posted on 07/01/2014 5:35:57 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: grania

I agree. I used to live in Gainesville, the main campus of the University of Florida. This school is a very fine school and was virtually free to any Florida resident who had good grades in high school or, barring great grades, the usual combination of tolerable grades and athletic ability. In other words, it wasn’t limited to white elites or elites of any colors, but the local black population carried on as if it was an anti-black plot.

Of course, as penance for working hard and doing well, all the fraternities used to go out and clean up Gainesville’s black neighborhoods as a community service project. Mind you, these neighborhoods got the same trash services as anybody else in Gainesville, and in fact even had a few special pick up days the rest of us didn’t get. But the black neighborhoods were a mess of trash thrown all over the place, nothing was ever picked up, and therefore the fraternities used to go and “help” them clean up a couple of times a year.

The fraternities would bring candy for the kids to try to encourage them, but nobody ever came out to help. I drove by one time and saw that the residents had actually brought lawn chairs out onto the sidewalks to sit there and chat and drink soda and watch the fraternities hauling the garbage out of the vacant lots and gutters of the neighborhood.

Very discouraging. I don’t know what can be done about a mindset like that.


30 posted on 07/01/2014 5:51:42 PM PDT by livius
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