Posted on 07/28/2014 10:53:27 AM PDT by Leigh Patrick Sullivan
Making controversial statements is nothing new for me. Neither is the reaction that usually follows.
But perhaps no other issue causes as much discussion, debate, and condemnation from others than when I present my position on the issue of homosexuality.
As a known Christian, I have been told that I MUST think a certain way and that I MUST believe a certain way regarding not only people who are gay, but regarding their entire lifestyle as well.
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I think your post misses the key point. While there are “Christians” who do seem to hate homosexuals, most Christian do not hate homosexuals, any more than they hate drug addicts, adulterers, thieves, etc. What they DO hate is the attempt by society in general (and by liberal “Christians” in particular) to somehow define homosexuality in such a way as to make it not only accepted by society, but to make it appear compatible with Christianity.
The Bible is very clear in both the Old and New Testaments that sexual activity outside of the bounds of marriage between a man and a woman is sinful. Homosexuality, adultery, fornication, bestiality - all are condemned as sinful. If we fail to warn people about that, and instead try to tell them that God will somehow ignore that sin, we become complicit in sending them to Hell.
As Christians, the most loving thing we can do is be like Christ - don’t shun sinners, but be unshakable in our stand for the message of the Gospel, calling ALL sinners to repentance. Just because a homosexual is a wonderful person, or a relative of yours, doesn’t mean that God will somehow overlook their sinful lifestyle and save them despite the fact that their whole life revolves around proclaiming their sin. If we fail to warn sinners (including homosexuals) of the judgment to come and fail to tell them of the salvation that is available in Christ just because we don’t want to seem like we are “judging” them, then we don’t truly love them as Christ loves them.
This person is very sick and needs much help.
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Indeed. Leigh was quite clear from the title and breif excerpt that he was here at FR promoting queerness. But I give too much benefit to doubt, so I clicked the blogpimp’s link. Sure enough - he is supporting faggotry.
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Making controversial statements is nothing new for me. Neither is the reaction that usually follows.
But perhaps no other issue causes as much discussion, debate, and condemnation from others than when I present my position on the issue of homosexuality.
As a known Christian, I have been told that I MUST think a certain way and that I MUST believe a certain way regarding not only people who are gay, but regarding their entire lifestyle as well.
Now I realize the standard position people of faith take when the issue of LGBT folks comes up: ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’. And, from a theological point of view, that seems fair and acceptable. We are all sinful, of course. We all have the opportunity to be redeemed.
Countless times I have heard Christians trip all over themselves explaining how they aren’t judging the person, how they have ‘no problem’ with gay people, etc. Then many follow up later by verbally discriminating against those very same people.
We have to be careful here – what might appear as discrimination often times is not intended to be such whatsoever. Biblical quotes must be placed in context, and there are some very direct words pertaining to the issue.
My own take has been born out of many years as both a Christian and as a supporter of the Gay community.
My personal faith, as is the case for most people who walk with the Lord, has been a winding road full of glory and difficulties. I have had moments of great strength as well as times so problematic I was forced to reassess my beliefs.
My experience (as a straight man) with the gay community is quite extensive. From being introduced to the Calgary scene a few decades ago through a close family member who is gay, through to the present where I know many in the Calgary and Edmonton communities – and have discovered more gay family members – I have never thought of anyone in the gay community as being on their way to burn in Hell.
So therein lies the problem. Here I am, a self-professed believer in Jesus Christ who also believes that homosexuals should be treated no differently than anyone else. I happen to lack the sense of acceptable discrimination and compulsion to condemn these people that I have seen emanate from so many other followers of God.
As a live-and-let-live libertarian by nature, I have never seen it as my place or responsibility to call out gays on any grounds, religious or otherwise. If what they are is wrong and unacceptable in the eyes of the Lord, then that is between the gay person and the Lord.
I have nothing to do with it, I have no say in it, and put directly, it is none of my damn business just as my relationship with the Lord is none of anyone else’s damn business.
The way I see it, when Christ walked the Earth He could have spent his time hanging with Kings and other members of the upper-society of the time. He didn’t. Instead, He spent his short time in this world with what we would describe today as ‘everyday people’.
Christ didn’t judge. How could I?
It is interesting to note the reaction I received a few months ago.
A friend of mine from the Edmonton LGBT community was murdered. Vigils and various acts of remembrance followed, some of which I attended. A few from the gay community made note of my attendance, and remarked that Jimmy would have loved that I was there.
Many who I stood and paid respect with knew I was straight and knew of my religious beliefs. Never – not once – was I made to feel uncomfortable or out of place.
By contrast, I did hear from a few fellow Christians who questioned why I would attend. One even took the opportunity to question ‘the strength of your faith’ simply because I look upon gays and lesbians as humans, not as abominations.
I wonder what Christ’s response to that would be?
I’m guessing very similar to mine.
Making controversial statements is nothing new for me. Neither is the reaction that usually follows.
But perhaps no other issue causes as much discussion, debate, and condemnation from others than when I present my position on the issue of homosexuality.
As a known Christian, I have been told that I MUST think a certain way and that I MUST believe a certain way regarding not only people who are gay, but regarding their entire lifestyle as well.
Now I realize the standard position people of faith take when the issue of LGBT folks comes up: ‘love the sinner, hate the sin’. And, from a theological point of view, that seems fair and acceptable. We are all sinful, of course. We all have the opportunity to be redeemed.
Countless times I have heard Christians trip all over themselves explaining how they aren’t judging the person, how they have ‘no problem’ with gay people, etc. Then many follow up later by verbally discriminating against those very same people.
We have to be careful here – what might appear as discrimination often times is not intended to be such whatsoever. Biblical quotes must be placed in context, and there are some very direct words pertaining to the issue.
My own take has been born out of many years as both a Christian and as a supporter of the Gay community.
My personal faith, as is the case for most people who walk with the Lord, has been a winding road full of glory and difficulties. I have had moments of great strength as well as times so problematic I was forced to reassess my beliefs.
My experience (as a straight man) with the gay community is quite extensive. From being introduced to the Calgary scene a few decades ago through a close family member who is gay, through to the present where I know many in the Calgary and Edmonton communities – and have discovered more gay family members – I have never thought of anyone in the gay community as being on their way to burn in Hell.
So therein lies the problem. Here I am, a self-professed believer in Jesus Christ who also believes that homosexuals should be treated no differently than anyone else. I happen to lack the sense of acceptable discrimination and compulsion to condemn these people that I have seen emanate from so many other followers of God.
As a live-and-let-live libertarian by nature, I have never seen it as my place or responsibility to call out gays on any grounds, religious or otherwise. If what they are is wrong and unacceptable in the eyes of the Lord, then that is between the gay person and the Lord.
I have nothing to do with it, I have no say in it, and put directly, it is none of my damn business just as my relationship with the Lord is none of anyone else’s damn business.
The way I see it, when Christ walked the Earth He could have spent his time hanging with Kings and other members of the upper-society of the time. He didn’t. Instead, He spent his short time in this world with what we would describe today as ‘everyday people’.
Christ didn’t judge. How could I?
It is interesting to note the reaction I received a few months ago.
A friend of mine from the Edmonton LGBT community was murdered. Vigils and various acts of remembrance followed, some of which I attended. A few from the gay community made note of my attendance, and remarked that Jimmy would have loved that I was there.
Many who I stood and paid respect with knew I was straight and knew of my religious beliefs. Never – not once – was I made to feel uncomfortable or out of place.
By contrast, I did hear from a few fellow Christians who questioned why I would attend. One even took the opportunity to question ‘the strength of your faith’ simply because I look upon gays and lesbians as humans, not as abominations.
I wonder what Christ’s response to that would be?
I’m guessing very similar to mine.
Well, that's the problem. People are inherently "religious". That covers atheists, marxists, Gaia-worshipers, satan worshipers, etc. Men are "religious".
You write that you are a "known Christian". Great - as long as God knows you are a follower of Christ as LORD and Saviour -- and you seek to Obey Him, and to be obedient to His Commandments - wonderful. I presume the rest of the article noted how you love the LGBT sinners and are doing your utmost to help them break the chains of this particular deadly, and pernicious, sinful behaviour.
Hate the sin love the sinner.
This guy is talking about hanging out in the homosexual community. Is she sharing his faith there, or just hanging out?
Really
“You snakes! You brood of vipers! How will you escape being condemned to hell? Therefore I am sending you prophets and sages and teachers. Some of them you will kill and crucify; others you will flog in your synagogues and pursue from town to town. And so upon you will come all the righteous blood that has been shed on earth, from the blood of righteous Abel to the blood of Zechariah son of Berekiah, whom you murdered between the temple and the altar. Truly I tell you, all this will come on this generation.
Can we please dispense with the cuddly teddy bear Jesus?
“Oh, I get it, you have a better handle on God and His nature than He does.”
God didn’t excerpt the Bible like the blog pimp did.
This guy needs to ride the lightening.
It's not clear why the powers that be would waste expensive bandwidth on this pro-homosexual blog pimp, in the middle of a fundraiser.
As a conservative site, Free Republic [opposes] all forms of ... homosexualism ..."
You’e in the wrong place here. Go pimp you’re blog somewhere else!
I’m sure there are a lot of “religious” sodomite supporters.
Yet, not a one of them is a genuine Christian.
I thought maybe all that heat down on the border had made you queer.
I’m curious to see how the mods change the headline....
My suggestion: A CRSIPY FRIED Religious LGBT Supporter GETS THE ZOT. Yes, Really.
Not that I've noticed so far.
Although I was hanging around with some questionable folks.
It took him nearly a half-minute. He musta been napping.
Seems (for me) this is a rare opportunity to post “IBTZ”!
-poster didn’t post the entire article from a blog AND...
-it’s his own blog AND...
-he’s posting something that goes directly against traditional moral values!
Couldn’t be much more stark than that. I suspect more than a few blog pimp pics will be thrown around perhaps even made to look a bit “gay”.
And deservedly so I might add.
That's why Jim had to go down there and straighten things out.
Them that sin reprove before all: that the rest also may have fear. - 1 Timothy 5:20
He must know that he who causeth a sinner to be converted from the error of his way, shall save his soul from death, and shall cover a multitude of sins. - James 5:20
There’s nothing “religious” about the gay supremacist parades or the San Francisco BDSM party on the sidewalk in front of a church there.
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