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How to fool Boehner into NOT Impeaching Obama: Accuse Boehner of trying to Impeach Obama!
Graewoulf | July 29, 2014 | Graewoulf

Posted on 07/29/2014 12:19:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf

All it takes for Obama to protect himself from Impeachment is to accuse Boehner of trying to Impeach him. Always a fool for reverse psychology traps, Boehner dutifully held a Presser today and said: "We have no plans to Impeach the president. We have no future plans. It is all a sham." BINGO! Obama's part-time Day Job is safe, because Boehner is really, Really, REALLY STUPID!

Speaker “Blank Check” Boehner has convinced most voters in the Public and US House of Representatives that NOTHING CAN BE DONE to punish B. Hussein Obama for violating the US Constitution unless he is removed from Office by the US Senate.

IOW, Speaker Boehner, by doing nothing, Boehner violates his unique Constitutional Duty to “Control the Purse” or Impeach Obama, and passes the buck to a Democrat-controlled US Senate that will never Remove Obama from Office.

Obama knows that as long as Boehner stays in as Speaker, then Obama has permission do whatever he wants to do, with no fear of punishment.

Boehner as Speaker is ESSENTIAL to permitting Obama to violate the US Constitution on a near daily basis.

Stupid and weak Boehner is, by far, “The best Speaker of the House that the Democrat Party has ever had.”

Removal from Office can only come from the US Senate, and ONLY if the US House Impeaches BEFORE the US Senate even considers whether or not to bring an Impeachment to the Floor of the US Senate.

BTW, “stupid” people are those people who are incapable of learning, and Speaker Boehner and all those who refuse to use the Checks and Balances found in the US Constitution are TRULY STUPID, especially the Republican Member supporters of Boehner as Speaker in the US House of Representatives.

Force Boehner to resign as Speaker, and THEN Impeach Obama with New House Speaker Louis Gomert, Jim Jordan or Trey Gowdy.

Do nothing, and US Voters may find no EFFECTIVE reason to vote for a do nothing Republican slate of Candidates in November, 2014.

BTW, BTW, just what is the difference between a do-nothing Republican Politician who always caves-in to his Democrat betters, and an Obama Democrat Politician?


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KEYWORDS: boehner; fool; psychology; reverse; stupidity
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1 posted on 07/29/2014 12:19:50 PM PDT by Graewoulf
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To: Graewoulf

This “Oh no they aren’t!” meme serves as a convenient distraction for the Democrats who are trying to shift the conversation AWAY from the IRS’ lies in the IRS scandal (”rogue agents in Cincy”, “we gave you everything”, “not a #SMIDGEN”, “dog ate my harddrive”, “we didn’t need to save the instant messages where we discussed stonewalling the investigation for emails”).


2 posted on 07/29/2014 12:22:26 PM PDT by a fool in paradise (Elian Gonzalez sought asylum and was sent back to Cuba, send these kids back to THEIR parents.)
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To: Graewoulf

Too clever by half. Not a Boehner, but in no way do I want the GOP help make Obama into a political martyr! Boehner did the right thing.


3 posted on 07/29/2014 12:23:43 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Graewoulf

Not defending Boehner in general, but there is virtually no upside to impeaching Obama, unless the level of outrage reached a point where democrats would convict him.

Impeaching a president is generally unpopular, especially when you can’t convict him so it will appear he “won”. Therefore the White House likes the idea as last ditch way to make Obama popular again.

Yes he deserves to be impeached, but he does not deserve it under circumstances where he wants it.


4 posted on 07/29/2014 12:24:55 PM PDT by Williams
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To: Graewoulf
...and passes the buck to a Democrat-controlled US Senate that will never Remove Obama from Office.

I don't see how Boehner "passes the buck" to the Senate, because the Senate cannot act to remove a President until the House passes articles of impeachment.

There is no buck to pass without impeachment.

-PJ

5 posted on 07/29/2014 12:25:44 PM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: Graewoulf

Bre’re Rabbit: PLEASE DON”T THROW ME INTO THE BRIAR PATCH!


6 posted on 07/29/2014 12:25:54 PM PDT by cuban leaf (The US will not survive the obama presidency. The world may not either.)
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To: Graewoulf
No, don't throw me in the briar patch!
7 posted on 07/29/2014 12:29:47 PM PDT by OneWingedShark (Q: Why am I here? A: To do Justly, to love mercy, and to walk humbly with my God.)
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To: All

“These people are pretty desperate,” Gingrich said. “Nothing is working. And so they are looking for some fight that allows them to re-polarize the country in terms that help them in the election.

Continuing, Gingrich said: “I think we ought to laugh at them and say ‘if the best you can do after six years of the presidency is to yell impeachment and hope that you can raise money, it is a pretty pathetic presidency.’ And by the way, it is a pretty pathetic presidency.”

http://dailycaller.com/2014/07/29/newt-obama-might-grant-amnesty-to-provoke-impeachment-calls/


8 posted on 07/29/2014 12:30:27 PM PDT by Hotlanta Mike (‘You can avoid reality, but you can’t avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.’)
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To: Graewoulf
What say all of you?

Impeachment BEFORE the election is a big mistake. After, if you've got 67 a shoo in. If you don't have 67 its a gutsy call too far above Boehner's pay grade.

9 posted on 07/29/2014 12:31:13 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: Graewoulf
I think I'm with Bohner on this.
10 posted on 07/29/2014 12:33:32 PM PDT by DannyTN (I)
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To: DannyTN

Bonehead had no intention of impeaching Obama


11 posted on 07/29/2014 12:34:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Obadiah
"Boehner did the right thing."

No he did not. Bad precedence are set for good reasons. Boehner has a habit of relinquishing his Constitutionally given powers to the law breakers, just so he will not be called names, like 'Racist'. Let's be frank, that's what it is about.

The right thing to do is keep it on the table unless you think the framers were wrong to give this power to the legislative branch.

The first thing Boehner did as speaker was surrender his powers from Article 1 of the Constitution, the powers of the purse strings, aka the Continuing Resolution.

Boehner is the absolute worst speaker at a time when we needed the best. It sure doesn't help that he has people with no will to fight supporting him either.

12 posted on 07/29/2014 12:34:15 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Graewoulf

Obama isn’t going to be impeached, period.

It’s not some reverse-psychology or Jedi mind trick, it’s simple pragmatism.

Impeachment is not a legal proceeding but a political one, and therefore, the politics of the situation are extremely relevant; and the politics of impeachment in this case are really, really bad for the GOP.

No matter how bad he messes up nor how much anger and opposition to his actions and policies the public can be made to feel, the simple fact is that any attack on Obama himself is immediately met with a backlash. Some of this is cult of personality and some of it is the protection he gets by being the first black President.

Nor is history a favorable omen to the Republicans. This would be the second Democrat in a row they’d impeach, and that makes them look like pure partisans regardless of the merits of the impeachment case. Also, despite Clinton being obviously guilty of what he was accused of, it’s clear that Senate Democrats will not vote for conviction for any reason.

There’s only one possible outcome to all of this, and it’s to make Obama come off as a sympathetic (and exonerated) victim of an evil GOP conspiracy. The matter might be different if the cry for impeachment was raised and led by Democrats, but I’d expect flying pigs to go ice skating in hell before that happens.


13 posted on 07/29/2014 12:35:09 PM PDT by kevkrom (I'm not an unreasonable man... well, actually, I am. But hear me out anyway.)
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To: Williams

as kids start dying from diseases brought in by 0failure, they’ll want more then to have him fired


14 posted on 07/29/2014 12:39:49 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Graewoulf
Given Reid's control of the US Senate, Boehner's hands are tied. It would be fruitless for Boehner to bring up impeachment legislation ao long as Reid has that control.

So Boehner's best move is to wait for November and then, given Republicn control of the House and Senate ... go for obama's impeachment.

15 posted on 07/29/2014 12:40:47 PM PDT by OldNavyVet
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To: Williams

> there is virtually no upside to impeaching Obama,

Absolutely - When you strike at a king you must kill him.


16 posted on 07/29/2014 12:41:29 PM PDT by glorgau
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To: lormand
I understand, but now is not the time to go out and hand Obama and Democrats an emotional tool they will exploit without mercy. Democrats would have a field day lying about this, and together with the corrupt MSM, this would spiral out of control. Think of how quickly Democrats and the corrupt MSM exploited the Todd Akin issue or the Virginia “Macaca” moment.

Democrats are losing badly right now. Why would anyone want to gift-wrap a baseball bat to bludgeon the GOP with.

As long as the corrupt MSM has Obama’s back - and they do - just about anything you do will boomerang back. Better to be wise and gain control rather than go off and never gain control of the Senate.

17 posted on 07/29/2014 12:41:49 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Graewoulf

it’s tough to say we’re a country of laws when they are regularly ignored by the top person responsible for enforcing them

we’re a country of cute guidelines that are inflicted on those not currently in favor with the press


18 posted on 07/29/2014 12:43:51 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Obadiah
Boehner did the right thing.

He absolutely did NOT! He tossed aside the ONE implement given to We-The-People to deal with such illegalities as this President has done/is doing/will continue to to until stopped!

So, Obadiah, what will stop this Administration's rampage NOW?
19 posted on 07/29/2014 12:44:45 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Graewoulf

What if America’s dictator were to step off a plane and be arrested by a US Marshall?


20 posted on 07/29/2014 12:48:03 PM PDT by Missouri gal
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To: Obadiah
I understand, but now is not the time to go out and hand Obama and Democrats an emotional tool they will exploit without mercy.

If you are a Constitutional conservative and are relying upon Republicans acting substantially differently when they (possibly) retake the Senate, you are misplacing your trust. They have proven repeatedly that this is the way the GOPe wants things to be: not far removed from what Obama wants.
21 posted on 07/29/2014 12:50:34 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Resettozero

Until I see a clear path to impeaching Obama with Harry Reid as majority leader in the Senate I’ll stick to my position.


22 posted on 07/29/2014 12:53:57 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Obadiah
So you are against impeaching someone who has committed impeachable offenses for political reasons. What other Constitutional power can we abandon?
23 posted on 07/29/2014 12:54:54 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: OldNavyVet; All

You are assuming that the voters will find an effective difference between a Cave-In Republican and an Obama Democrat, of course.

The most likely case is that the Democrats will keep the US Senate, and win back the US House.

If you doubt me, just count the Rep. and Senate Candidates that are NOT polling within the margin of error (3-4% +/-) from their opponents.

Boehner is essential to Obama, so Obama will continue to coach Boehner on the very best ways that Boehner can help Republicans lose another close election.

As mentioned above concerning Boehner’s Presser, Boehner is off to a great losing start for the Republicans.

Besides, what can Obama possibly do in the mere 5 weeks that Boehner and his House are on Vacation?

All Obama has is a “pen and a phone” - - - - .


24 posted on 07/29/2014 12:56:35 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

I say they shouldn’t impeach him, but continually give the reasons he should be impeached, as well as the reason that it’s not feasible - the race issue.


25 posted on 07/29/2014 12:57:36 PM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Missouri gal

Here I am assuming that the arresting US Marshal has searched Air Force One with a drug-sniffing dog.


26 posted on 07/29/2014 12:58:41 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: MrB

That is what has been done for nigh onto 6 years now - - -.

How is that working out for you?


27 posted on 07/29/2014 1:00:40 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: lormand

See my post at #22.


28 posted on 07/29/2014 1:01:44 PM PDT by Obadiah (None are more hopelessly enslaved than those who falsely believe they are free.)
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To: Graewoulf

Can someone please explain how we can possible benefit from pushing impeachment now?

1. Harry Reid’s Senate will not convict Obama under any circumstances, even if he is found in bed with a live boy, a dead girl and half the US treasury in his private bank account.

2. It will not in any way humiliate Obama to be impeached. He and all of his supporters (including the lamestream media) would consider it a badge of honor for Obama to be impeached by a Republican controlled House.

3. Any talk of impeachment will fire up the Democrat base for the 2014 election and when combined with the dead people and illegal alien vote already in the bag could easily mean the difference between a Republican controlled Senate next year or at least 2 more years of a Democrat controlled Senate.

4. The Democrats are already fund raising based on talk of impeachment. That is why most of the talk of impeachment is coming from Democrats.

If the Republicans retake the Senate next year and you want to talk about impeachment then, I still think it would hurt us politically in the 2016 elections (look how the Clinton impeachment turned out), but it is arguable.

If the Democrats hold the Senate next year, our nation is pretty much finished. We will have two more years of far left wing Obama judicial appointments sailing unimpeded through the Senate, all of whom be legislating from the bench for the next 30 years.

In 2016, we need to elect a conservative President, hold onto the House and Senate, and replace as many RINOs as we can with conservatives. That is the path to retaking the country. Anything else will result in more Obamanation.


29 posted on 07/29/2014 1:02:10 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: lormand
Impeachment is a political procedure, not a legal one.
30 posted on 07/29/2014 1:02:47 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Obadiah
Until I see a clear path to impeaching Obama with Harry Reid as majority leader in the Senate I’ll stick to my position.

Stand your ground firm then; you have no other recourse now.

And if the GOPe does NOT retake the Senate this November?

Your words: "A clear path..."
But never the words of Adams, Jefferson, Washington, Henry, and a myriad other American patriots. Nor mine.


31 posted on 07/29/2014 1:11:51 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: MrB
I say they shouldn’t impeach him, but continually give the reasons he should be impeached, as well as the reason that it’s not feasible - the race issue.

You really think THAT will make this Administration halt or slow way down? Any evidence?
32 posted on 07/29/2014 1:13:41 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Bubba_Leroy
In 2016, we need to elect a conservative President, hold onto the House and Senate, and replace as many RINOs as we can with conservatives.

We NEED not to have this Administration in power until 2016.

You don't see the danger we are in TODAY or you wouldn't have posted the politically-minded post you did.
33 posted on 07/29/2014 1:17:01 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: what's up
Impeachment is a political procedure, not a legal one.

Granting that you may know what you are saying, what difference does you response make? Impeachment is the only remedy for a case like Obama and Boehner has denied Americans just representation one more time.

Splitting hairs is good for barbers to check their razors' sharpness; but that's about all.
34 posted on 07/29/2014 1:22:27 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: Graewoulf

Ugh, random capitalization disease.


35 posted on 07/29/2014 1:24:42 PM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: kevkrom

If we had any decent generals in the top they would have court martialed the “Commander in Chief” for derelictrion of duty for what happened on Sept 11, 2012...


36 posted on 07/29/2014 1:25:50 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: glorgau

I hope you mean that you should have enough support for a conviction in the senate ahead of impeaching him...


37 posted on 07/29/2014 1:26:52 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Resettozero

[ Boehner did the right thing.

He absolutely did NOT! He tossed aside the ONE implement given to We-The-People to deal with such illegalities as this President has done/is doing/will continue to to until stopped!

So, Obadiah, what will stop this Administration’s rampage NOW? ]

Bone head won’t even defund Obama in the house, no way in hell the weasel would even consider impeaching obama...


38 posted on 07/29/2014 1:28:12 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Resettozero

[ In 2016, we need to elect a conservative President, hold onto the House and Senate, and replace as many RINOs as we can with conservatives.

We NEED not to have this Administration in power until 2016.

You don’t see the danger we are in TODAY or you wouldn’t have posted the politically-minded post you did. ]

I think we are in a situation of being damned if we do and doamned if we don’t. But i DO think if we are to go down, we should go down fighting so to speak.


39 posted on 07/29/2014 1:29:40 PM PDT by GraceG (No, My Initials are not A.B.)
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To: Obadiah

I agree. If it happens now, it’s a political victory for the left, especially since it can’t go anywhere with reid in charge of the senate. All it will do at this point is incite their base, and lead to possible defeat in November.


40 posted on 07/29/2014 1:49:15 PM PDT by Smellin Salt
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To: Resettozero
The poster had said a refusal to impeach was only for political reasons.

But impeachment is a political process. Of course you have to take the support of the people into consideration.

I don't know why you think impeachment is a "remedy" at this point. What exactly would it fix?

41 posted on 07/29/2014 1:59:58 PM PDT by what's up
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To: GraceG
But i DO think if we are to go down, we should go down fighting so to speak.

Now that we are on the point of retaking the Senate you think we are "going down"?

Funny logic.

42 posted on 07/29/2014 2:01:55 PM PDT by what's up
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To: Resettozero

Your position is all emotion and illogical. The votes are not there at this time. And trying to take impeachment forward now only plays into the Dems hands and the media which they own, if you hand’t noticed. The result will be blowing the shot at retaking the Senate and getting rid of Reid. Do you realize how important that is for as a first step? The House is not dealing from a position of strength in the current landscape.


43 posted on 07/29/2014 2:03:44 PM PDT by AlphaOneAlpha
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To: All

Sometimes, Boehnhead, it’s hard to taqqiya seriously.


44 posted on 07/29/2014 2:31:48 PM PDT by Peter ODonnell (Clinton v Jeb Bush -- just shoot me now)
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To: Obadiah

The Senate cannot Impeach


45 posted on 07/29/2014 2:39:07 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: what's up
What is the purpose of impeachment? Is it to get back at opposition because they lawfully passed bills? No, Impeachment is used when the Executive fails to uphold the Constitution, or violates the Constitution.

This President has done both, and to take Impeachment off the table is for weak fools who deserve more than they are getting.

Never take your constitutionally given powers off the table...NEVER!

46 posted on 07/29/2014 2:44:57 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: Resettozero
You don't see the danger we are in TODAY or you wouldn't have posted the politically-minded post you did.

I fully see the danger we are in TODAY. I just don't want to take the liberal approach of doing something just to feel like you are doing something even though it makes the situation worse.

Again, tell me how attempting to impeach Obama will improve anything?

47 posted on 07/29/2014 3:35:31 PM PDT by Bubba_Leroy (The Obamanation Continues)
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To: Graewoulf
Well it seems like a bad idea politically. The politically moderate republicans don't like the idea, the dems keep on telling us its a bad idea for the republicans, FOX news keeps on having guests that don't like the idea because it's bad for republicans, such as Carl Rove. It must be that they all have the best interests of the nation at heart. /s

Related somewhat.

http://benswann.com/lotfi-fox-news-one-of-hillary-clintons-biggest-donors-for-more-than-two-decades/

48 posted on 07/29/2014 4:36:23 PM PDT by Principle Over Politics ("Man is not free unless government is limited" Ronald Reagan)
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To: what's up
I don't know why you think impeachment is a "remedy" at this point. What exactly would it fix?

What other remedy does the Constitution provide for dealing with unlawful acts by a President?

What would impeachment of Obama "fix"? Moot point and we'll never know. Boehner won't even bring it up in the House, much less to a vote. You're getting what you want, I guess.
49 posted on 07/29/2014 5:04:56 PM PDT by Resettozero
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To: AlphaOneAlpha
Your position is all emotion and illogical.

Because I want the proceedings to at least begin and be discussed in the House I am emotional and illogical, you say.

You are presuming that I am a Republican and think re-taking the Senate by the GOPe in November will make a difference in the way the Senate is run. I'm not and I don't.

We disagree on this point where you think you've taken the logical high ground. It probably isn't.
50 posted on 07/29/2014 5:14:17 PM PDT by Resettozero
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