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Constitutional Rights to Video and Audio Record in Public
Gun Watch ^ | 30 December, 2014 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 12/31/2014 2:39:05 AM PST by marktwain

Graphic from copblock.org

The ubiquity of inexpensive and capable video and audio recording devises is changing the legal and political landscape for everyone, but especially for police, criminals, and armed Americans.  The open carry movement learned early on that recording of an incident removed the he said/she said ambiguity that is often found to be in a police officer's favor.  There have been many cases where the interaction was recorded and a settlement was paid to the person exercising their rights.  Many defensive actions by armed Americans have been caught on surveillance cameras and have gone viral on the Internet.

 

Recent gun store robbery and gunfight caught on video.

The trend in the courts is to find that recording in public is a first amendment right; specifically the recording of public officials, including police, in the performance of their public duties.  In 2011 the First Circuit Court of Appeals ruled that way.  From dmlp.org:


 The CMLP is thrilled to report that in the case of Glik v. Cunniffe, which the CMLP has blogged previously and in which the CMLP attempted to file an amicus brief, the U.S. Court of Appeals for the First Circuit has issued a resounding and unanimous opinion in support of the First Amendment right to record the actions of police in public.
The Seventh Circuit Court of Appeals ruled the same way in striking down an Illinois law in 2012.   That law was appealed to the Supreme court, and the Supreme court decided not to hear the case.  From chicagotribune.com:
Writing for the 7th Circuit majority, Judge Diane Sykes said Alvarez staked out an "extreme position" in arguing that openly recording what police say on the job on streets, sidewalks, plazas and parks deserved no First Amendment protection.

Judge Richard Posner dissented, saying the ruling "casts a shadow" over electronic privacy statutes nationwide that require consent of at least one party to record many conversations.
In the map shown above, the laws are generally crafted as "wiretap" laws designed to restrict the recording of telephone conversations.  That is far different than recording public interactions, in which there is little expectation of privacy.   I am unaware of any other appeals court cases that address the issue.   As nearly half of the people in the small number of  states with restrictive laws reside in the Ninth Circuit, and with California having one of the most restrictive laws, a challenge of the California law and to the Ninth Circuit seems likely at some point.

A retired state patrol officer has told me that he expects that all police will record all of their time on duty within 10 years.   President Obama has pushed for certain police agencies to require the use of body cameras while on duty.

For armed Americans, a recorder has become as much of a tool for defending Constitutional rights as a firearm.  

There may come a time when the first question a prosecutor asks is "Where is the recording?".


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TOPICS: Government; History; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: banglist; constitution; firstamendment; police; public; recording; video
A recorder is becoming as valuable a tool for freedom fighting as a gun. The work in different ways and reinforce one another.
1 posted on 12/31/2014 2:39:05 AM PST by marktwain
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To: marktwain
A retired state patrol officer has told me that he expects that all police will record all of their time on duty within 10 years.

I'd say that's a slam-dunk certainty. Probably less than 10 years.

2 posted on 12/31/2014 3:27:14 AM PST by Ken H (What happens on the internet, stays on the internet.)
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To: marktwain

If you do any work in the public eye, you have no reasonable expectation of privacy. You should expect to be recorded perpetually.


3 posted on 12/31/2014 3:29:01 AM PST by arderkrag (The biggest problem faced by any FReeper: http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Confirmation_bias)
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To: marktwain

Those predisposed to the hands up don’t shoot dribble should be most inclined to have their own audio video coverage (they’re so sure of being done wrong). But wait most already have smart phones even if NY police don’t?
Where is that ‘classified’ recording of Darrin Wilson defending hisself?


4 posted on 12/31/2014 3:54:29 AM PST by Recompennation
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To: Ken H

As should be with any/all gov’t officials. You are talking about the 5 W’s re: Law, We the People should be able to trace the process. No more ‘closed door’, no ‘off the record’, NOTHING and NOWHERE should they be able to talk to ANYONE for their (shady) deals.

Even w/ the Sunshine Laws here in FL, they still try to get around it as much as possible....What’s good for the police is good enough for their bosses.

Though, I’d still like to see the ins/outs of how the po-po cams are to work; wireless to a ‘black box’ in the car and downloaded/archived? There’s enough evidence that goes ‘missing’ (or ‘reduced’), there should NEVER be a chance of ‘Oops, that wasn’t backed up/downloaded/saved/etc.’


5 posted on 12/31/2014 5:39:54 AM PST by i_robot73 (Give me one example and I will show where gov't is the root of the problem(s).)
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To: marktwain

All police interaction with the public should be audio/video recorded, and an LEO who “forgets” his recorder in the car, or has a “malfunctioning” camera in his squad car needs to be given an opportunity to find employment in another field. He would never “forget” his pistol or leave the station with a “malfunctioning” radio.

Yes, I know, politicians and their appointees get away with this crap, like losing emails or erasing tapes, but policemen can be fired whereas politicians are somehow immune.


6 posted on 12/31/2014 5:48:23 AM PST by Blue Collar Christian (quod est Latine morositate)
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