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Is Britain already a Socialist Country? – It is in an “Economic Death Spiral”
IWB ^ | Mark Angelides

Posted on 5/4/2017, 6:26:45 PM by davikkm

Recent figures show that in the UK, more than 50% of households receive more in State benefits than the pay in direct taxes (income tax, VAT etc…) to the Government. The Centre for Policy Studies says that “the average household paid £13,402 in taxes in 2013/14. Yet it received £12,939 in cash benefits and benefits in-kind” When this is added to education and health benefits shows that the majority of British people are a drain on the public purse.

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This is not to say that it is the public’s fault. The system in place means that people are given “working tax-credits” in the form of benefits and housing relief. It is the system that has “enslaved” working people into a spiral that forces them to live via Government allowances. And of course this means that the finances of the UK will inevitably lead to more and more debt for the UK (the Government has borrowed an extra £700 Billion since 2010).

But the thing is, it is designed to be this way. It is not an accidental occurrence, nor a mismanagement of public finances, but a policy that the UK government has been committed to for many years, regardless of who is in power. The rate stood at 43.1% in 1979, and it has increased incrementally since then.

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TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; Politics
KEYWORDS: britain; socialist
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1 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:26:45 PM by davikkm
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To: davikkm

They have been since at least 1945 when they pitched out Churchill in favor of Clement Attlee and the Communists.


2 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:33:25 PM by fieldmarshaldj (Je Suis Pepe)
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To: davikkm

rest:

The Government wants the British people to be wards of the state. They want the public to avoid any form of “revolutionary behavior” by threatening the people with a loss of benefits. It is quite simply a case of “support us, or starve”.

In 2014/15, £258 Billion was spent on the Welfare budget; this is around 35% of the whole year’s budget. And of that figure, the Government tries to placate us by saying that 42% (£108 Billion), was spent on pensions. And who could argue with paying pensions for old people who have long paid into the system? But it is a con job. In the UK, we pay National Insurance Contributions directly from out wages (through the Pay As You Earn, PAYE Scheme) as our pension contributions. This money has been spent by the government when it should have been kept aside to actually give back to the people who have been paying in their entire life. The pension contributions are not monies to be spent on pet projects, the money has been paid in so that it can be taken out at a later date). So why is it coming from the tax budget?

The UK Government wants the British people to rely on the State for their well-being. They want them to be financially dependent on the system that ensures their own slavery. A new way of living is enquired, and the only way to achieve this is through a political revolution.

* I use the term Socialist in the title to refer to “English Socialism” as opposed to the regular definition (for a solid description, please read Orwell’s 1984 appendix)


3 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:36:09 PM by davikkm
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To: davikkm
Death Spirals
4 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:39:13 PM by Berlin_Freeper (Happy Nobama!)
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To: fieldmarshaldj
The solution is to import more illiterate, inbred, crazed, third world muslims, their wives, and their extended families, all who have nothing but contempt for Western values. Set them up in council housing, healthcare, food benefits, welfare payments, and there you are.
5 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:39:34 PM by Governor Dinwiddie (How many does it take? It takes two. One to eat the possum, the other to direct traffic.)
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To: Governor Dinwiddie

Curiously, you may have the answer. If the “system” is irreparably broken, the sooner it can be “tagged out” and discarded, the better.


6 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:49:36 PM by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: davikkm
Is Britain already a Socialist Country?

For decades already... not even close.

7 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:54:35 PM by sargon ("If we were in the midst of a zombie apocalypse, the Left would protest for zombies' rights.")
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To: davikkm

Socialist: one who believes in and wants to implement the ideas of Karl Marx.

Welfare programs, government banks, open borders - these things are all called for in “The Communist Manifesto”.


8 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:58:24 PM by Tzimisce
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To: davikkm
This is what happens when you de industrialize and go the globalist cheapest labor route. That is the nut of the problem.

Blame the real problem Free Trade.

So corporate profits are sky high and half the customer base is unemployed.

9 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:58:49 PM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Yep.


10 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:59:04 PM by RushIsMyTeddyBear
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To: davikkm

Socialism makes you soft. Once you start depending on the government for your needs, you lose the desire to better yourself because it ceases to be a necessity.

Socialism ruins the individual and therefore ruins civilization.


11 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:59:23 PM by Crucial
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To: Tzimisce

Marx promoted Free Trade also.


12 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:59:32 PM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: davikkm

I thought Britain was a Social-Sharia country.


13 posted on 5/4/2017, 6:59:49 PM by BuffaloJack ("If you're going through Hell, keep going." Winston Churchill)
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To: davikkm

WOW! Britain is already a socialist country? How long have you been sitting on this information?


14 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:00:56 PM by DesertRhino (Dog is man's best friend, and moslems hate dogs. Add that up.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

Socialism and communism can only grow in fertile ground. Free Trade and de industrialization were and still are great fertilizers.


15 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:01:15 PM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: central_va

Give me the exact quote and where I can find it.

Because I’m pretty sure he didn’t.

Marx hated Capitalism. He actually says in ‘The Communist Manifesto’ that one of his goals was to destroy it.


16 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:02:35 PM by Tzimisce
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But, in general, the protective system of our day is conservative, while the free trade system is destructive. It breaks up old nationalities and pushes the antagonism of the proletariat and the bourgeoisie to the extreme point. In a word, the free trade system hastens the social revolution. It is in this revolutionary sense alone, gentlemen, that I vote in favor of free trade.

-- Karl Marx

Karl Marx and Friedrich Engels On Free Trade (1848 - 1888)

17 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:12:20 PM by central_va (I won't be reconstructed and I do not give a damn.)
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To: wastoute
Curiously, you may have the answer. If the “system” is irreparably broken, the sooner it can be “tagged out” and discarded, the better.

Have you actually read "Atlas Shrugged" or do you just think like a Randian hero?   ;^)

18 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:12:48 PM by higgmeister ( In the Shadow of The Big Chicken! - Si vis pacem, para bellum No sin, I do too.)
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To: higgmeister

LOL. I actually read it twice. The whole thing. Because I forgot what a bore the last 400 pages are. And watched the movie. Both parts. The movie, at least, was not boring for the last half.

I like Rand in spite of her atheism or agnosticism or whatever. I think she may have been smart enough to realize that economics cannot address spiritual matters. How we behave is all that is important and why we behave in a certain way is so personal, so subjective, it can’t be quantized. Since it can’t be quantized it has to be ignored. For those of us with Faith we understand it to be the foundation of our acts but for those without it is like trying to explain “Red” to a blind man. It is why she called it “Objectivism”.


19 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:24:46 PM by wastoute (Government cannot redistribute wealth. Government can only redistribute poverty.)
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To: Crucial

Simple, yet powerful statement why socialism is deadly for civilization. Thanks.


20 posted on 5/4/2017, 7:40:56 PM by poconopundit (FR: Self-Reliant Lovers of Liberty who can't stop Chattering)
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