Edward R. Murrow Would Be Ashamed of the People at CBS.

A Janitor's View ^ | 10/13/17 | Reasonmclucus

[kathsua]

Edward R. Murrow used his position as a journalist to expose the anti-communist witch hunt in the 50's.

I remember seeing some of the television coverage of the Army-McCarthy hearings. I was too young to fully understand what was going on, but I recognized that Murrow thought something was wrong.

If he were alive today, I'm sure he would recognize that the current anti-Russian crusade makes less sense than Sen. Joseph McCarthy's anti-communist crusade in the 50's.

There was a Cold War between the United States and Soviet Union in the 50's. There is no good reason for the United States and Russia to be enemies today.

The question Joe McCarthy asked in the 50's was: "Are you now or have you ever been a member of the communist party?" The question today is: "have you ever talked to a Russian?"

Supporters of the Russian meddling witch hunt claim that Russian hackers were spying on the Democratic Party's emails. The fact is that the Russian government has arrested four of those hackers [ including the deputy head of the FSB security agency’s Centre for Information Security, Col. Sergei Mikhailov and his deputy Maj. Dmitry Dokuchayev]. and charged them with working for the CIA.

Thus any inquisition on this issue should begin with Obama administration officials and seek answers to the following questions: "What did President Obama know? When did he know it? and What did he do about it?"

The witch hunters also charge the Russians with "planting fake news". The traditional term is "propaganda" and governments have been doing it for generations. Great Britain started doing it to us during WWI. After the 9/11 attack the British convinced our government that Iraq's WMD program was more extensive than it was.

Prior to the 2004 election, the Democratic Republic of Vietnam [DRV] released a story that insured that Gov. Bob Kerrey would not run against Sen John Kerry [whom the DRV was supporting] for the Democratic presidential nomination. The DRV had previously provided "fake news" to try to influence voters in the 1968 and 1972 elections.

It's increasingly obvious that it's the British, rather than the Russians, who are meddling in American politics. The British are once again using "fake intelligence" to influence American politics.

After the 9/11 attack the British used fake intelligence about WMD in Iraq to get President George W. Bush to help them invade Iraq. The British treated rumors about WMD as if they were proven facts.

Now they are using fake intelligence to undermine President Donald Trump. Patrick Cockburn in the "London Independent" says the charges about Trump's alleged association with the Russians are based on information that is at least as unreliable as the claims about Iraq's WMD.

[Texas Eagle]

If he were alive today, I'm sure he would recognize that the current anti-Russian crusade makes less sense than Sen. Joseph McCarthy's anti-communist crusade in the 50's.

I'm sorry. What? That sentence makes no sense. McCarthy's Spidey Senses were dead on. If he was around today he'd be a shill for Hillary. Only he'd smell better than her.

[Nuc 1.1]

Sigh, never good at spelling and even worse at typing. And I tried. I am going to bed now. Have a good night brother.

[Nuc 1.1]

On display now.

[fieldmarshaldj]

Ah, no worries, it’s an easy mistake to make. Very close sounding, Verona/Venona. G’night to you, too.

[T-Bird45]

Your timeline is inverted. The House Un-American Activities committee (HUAC) began looking into Communist influence in film and other media in 1947. The result of this portion of the HUAC investigation is usually referred to as the “Hollywood Blacklist.” HUAC went on to investigate Whitaker Chambers and Alger Hiss in 1948. The McCarthy hearings in the Senate about Communist influence in government was in 1954. Wikipedia points this out in the second paragraph of its article on HUAC.

You are correct that lots of people conflate the two due to the commonality of looking at Communist influence but there were different investigations at different times. You’re also correct in your statement about the continued ignorance of the proof of Communist influence in the Venona (note spelling) documents being willful on the part of those who continue to defame McCarthy.

[Nuc 1.1]

Thanks for the input FReeper. As to spelling, I could blame it on auto correct but was probably me. Have a great day.