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Is this the end of Alinksy?
10/4/18 | taildragger

Posted on 10/04/2018 10:36:39 AM PDT by taildragger

Freepers follow me on this.

Are we watching the passing of Alynski tactics? Is this the Alinsk-ites and their tactics last stand. They tried to destroy Sarah Palin as a Green-Jobs Czar said ( not a quote ) we had to destroy her politically she was a rock star. They did succeed in getting her off the political stage, but she redefined herself, she adapted, innovated, and overcome to fight the battle on different fronts.

They tried the same with President Trump, them Candidate and it continues today, and that was a loss to them a big one, it did not succeed, he is POTUS you don’t get any a bigger position than that.

On Judge Kavanaugh, they are trying it again, but this one is for all the marbles. it is essentially a position for life and they were also using it to gin up their base to have a “D” Congress to have impeachment. If they loose here, where do they go? They are finished, the tactics of Alinsky and gaslighting aren’t working anymore on a common sense Trumpian / American electorate. and I think they know it.

IMHO this is the last stand of the DNC before it politically implode like a structure that is beyond it’s useful life, and it is set it comes down upon itself. Except this time, it wasn’t an outside crew with yellow hats making it happen, they did it to themselves….


TOPICS: Government; Politics; Society
KEYWORDS: alinksy; kavanaugh; palin; trump; vanity
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To: Maris Crane
We haven't even begun to fight. The Left will never give and regards any set back as just one more obstacle to be over come. I'm a former Leftist and I keep telling Conservatives the Left can not be fought with just words. It will have to come down to actual violence. Their side uses violence as a standard operating procedure , witness Occupy, Antifa and Back Lives Matter. To dismiss the reality that we are not engaged in a new civil war is fool hardy. With the mid terms coming up the Left will ramp up their violence.
61 posted on 10/04/2018 11:43:36 AM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: Red Badger; buffaloguy; Liz; LucyT
Red Badger :"Back when everybody got their ‘news’ from dead tree purveyors and NTSC Video purveyors, Alinsky tactics worked.
One of their very useful tactics was fixation of the target.
That cannot happen now since there are myriads and myriads of sources for info......."

While I would like to say that you are correct in your analysis,However,
the media mongols identify anything that doesn't agree with their agenda as "Fake News".
The information that disagrees with the media agenda is discredited as being false.
Trump accurately identified the problem, self-funded his campaign, and took his message directly to the people using 'twitter'.
This alienated the media and negated their influence in communication, thus they turned increasingly into a unified voice
and news organizations became the voice, communication, and organization for social justice warriors.
They no longer report the news,.. they create the news !, through selective editing, just like the social media does.
As long as "Resist, resist, resist.." mantra is repeated, and it is fun for the protesters, they will continue to persist.
Take away their repetition and make it less fun, then they will drift away into oblivion like Anti-Fa.
Right now, through the MSM media the "resist" forces get notoriety, identity, and funding
take that way, and they will disappear into obscurity.

62 posted on 10/04/2018 12:04:37 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt
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To: taildragger
Is this the end of Alinksy?

Not a chance on God's green earth FRiend. They will double down or morph but they will never change their direction and lust for power; especially the fully indoctrinated/programmed/brainwashed among the left which are many but probably not as many as they may seem for all the noise they make.

The really sad thing is the left loses nothing when the right is in power but the right loses so much when the left is in power. A more secure border, higher wages, and lower unemployment when the right is in power is good for everyone; including legal immigrants who have to deal with the criminal illegals in their neighborhoods.

63 posted on 10/04/2018 12:08:03 PM PDT by Boomer (#FightMeTooLiars)
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To: taildragger

Or did they get Alinskyed back?


64 posted on 10/04/2018 12:09:50 PM PDT by TBP (Progressives lack compassion and tolerance. Their self-aggrandizement is all that matters.)
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To: taildragger

No.


65 posted on 10/04/2018 12:12:28 PM PDT by bgill (CDC site, "We don't know how people are infected with Ebola.")
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To: taildragger

No, it just delays and allows for the consolidation of the communist agenda.


66 posted on 10/04/2018 12:15:02 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: taildragger

No, it just delays and allows for the consolidation of the communist agenda.


67 posted on 10/04/2018 12:15:08 PM PDT by Ronald77
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To: Chewbarkah
That's exactly right, Chewbarkah. Communists are by their own definition infinite liars. I've hated commies as far back as I can remember. Ask me in a PM if you want to know why. In the meantime, I'll post a reminder of a once-popular slogan dating back to the unimaginably savage Korean War.

Communists stop the Alinski tactics under only one circumstance: they have taken total power and destroyed their opponents/enemies. America’s Bolsheviks might shape-shift, but they will not stop until they win, or have been “civilized” in the Ogden Nash poetic sense.

68 posted on 10/04/2018 12:26:43 PM PDT by Sarcasm Factory
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To: taildragger
You've been Allinskied if you think his tactics will disappear:

The biggest loser versus last year’s list was George Soros, whose net worth fell to $8.3 billion this year from $23 billion. The reason: in late 2017, Forbes learned that Soros had shifted $18 billion of his fortune to his charitable Open Society Foundations. (Forbes does not count assets in charitable foundations as part of someone’s net worth.)

https://www.forbes.com/sites/kerryadolan/2018/10/03/forbes-400-2018-a-new-number-one-and-a-record-breaking-year-for-americas-richest-people/#20a706760b7c
69 posted on 10/04/2018 12:28:35 PM PDT by jobim
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To: jmacusa

That is presupposing that most people are violent. Maybe in Iran, but not here.

We are not violent, largely, only the whackos, who seem to be expanding, but Not enough, never enough.

No, we will win as soon as young people stop going to universities. I believe in strength, something that our politicians seem to have acquired lately.

This encourages me.

Like President Trump says...we must have a strong military ...and never have to use it.

Last few days, I have seen strength in our side, mostly due to watching how our President does it.


70 posted on 10/04/2018 12:40:06 PM PDT by Maris Crane
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To: RedStateRocker

Sad that French leadership didn’t read the book.


71 posted on 10/04/2018 12:56:56 PM PDT by wally_bert (I will competently make sure the thing is done incompetently.)
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To: taildragger

That would be great, but first we need to purge the Alinksy-ites from academia and HR departments throughout the country. We need to have colleges specifically developed for conservatives.

We need to take over the teaching profession at the collegiate level, and screen out the SJWs during the recruiting period. We need to breed a new generation of people who support traditional American values.

And we need to start talking publicly about the left in the same demonizing way they talk about us. Don’t call them “progressives”, call them “the extreme left wing” and “neo-communists”. Call the Democrat party the party of the Ku Klux Klan, Jim Crow and segregation.

Saul Alinsky would probably approve of such a plan. Sort of.


72 posted on 10/04/2018 1:26:51 PM PDT by Kenton
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To: taildragger
Alinski tactics presume that the propaganda media will always help the radical.

This will be true forever - until and unless the Associated Press and its membership are successfully sued as a monopoly under the Sherman AntiTrust Act.

And forced to broadcast/print the fact that they have been found guilty of violating Sherman - very prominently, and every day until Kavanaugh’s poll ratings are and remain positive.


73 posted on 10/04/2018 2:03:16 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: entropy12
Alinsky’s mantra was to never give up

unfortunately for Alinsky, his mantra is now being chanted to an ever-growing population of stoners - content to choom out, over hitting the front lines. How can one protest if one can't remember what one is protesting for? Viva legalization?

74 posted on 10/04/2018 2:24:58 PM PDT by blueplum ( "...this moment is your moment: it belongs to you... " President Donald J. Trump, Jan 20, 2017)
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To: taildragger

No, because the Right needs to continue giving it back to them.


75 posted on 10/04/2018 3:28:19 PM PDT by Chipper (You can't kill an Obamazombie by destroying the brain...they didn't have one to begin with.)
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To: wally_bert
Sad that French leadership didn’t read the book.
Oh, they did. They just didn’t accept its recommendations. It was cheaper to go for outdated static defenses - and wishful thinking. I recommend

Last Hope Island:

Britain, Occupied Europe, and the Brotherhood That Helped Turn the Tide of War
by Lynne Olson (Goodreads Author)
4.3 · Rating details · 1,764 Ratings · 438 Reviews

An engrossing account of how Britain became the base of operations for the exiled leaders of Europe in their desperate struggle to reclaim their continent from Hitler.

It says that de Gaule (sp) disobeyed orders from Vichy France government when he decamped to Britain instead of staying in France. He was subject to execution by his own government on that account.

Very interesting discussion of the politics of the collapse of resistance to the blitzkrieg in western Europe. The crowned heads of Europe agonized over their options; only one - Leopold of Belgium - elected to stay in Belgium (hoping to duplicate his father’s experience in WWI and remain at large). The rest decamped to Britain - taking all the assets they could with them, and being welcomed with open arms. They broadcast hope and resistance propaganda to their homelands over the BBC. After the war, Leopold was also the only monarch who lost face on account of their decision.

Many Polish fighter pilots made it to Britain, but they were trained differently and looked down on by the RAF - until the RAF got to be in a real pinch for pilots. In desperation they gave the Poles Hawker Hurricanes - which were inferior to Spitfires - and dedicated the Spitfires to top cover and sicc’ed the Poles on the German bombers. The Polish pilots would do anything that would give them a good shot at a German - which the RAF and the Germans soon learned to respect.


76 posted on 10/04/2018 4:48:29 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (Journalism promotes itself - and promotes big government - by speaking ill of society.)
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To: Maris Crane
I'm talking about Antifa, and Occupy and BLM. They have proved to use violence-regularlly . There is a time for turning the other cheek. And a time for not turning the other cheek and it's time Antifa was paid back in it's own coin.
77 posted on 10/04/2018 11:08:03 PM PDT by jmacusa (Made it Ma, top of the world!'')
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To: taildragger; All

Interesting. Thanks to every poster.

MAGAAAA...


78 posted on 10/05/2018 12:45:12 AM PDT by PGalt
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To: jmacusa

Now that we have stopped looking weak, hopefully, if those terrorist groups see that we are winning and part of the winning involves their ROTTEN behavior, which turns people OFF.

Maybe, they will fade into the darkness from which they came.

I know this sounds unrealistic, but what if that does happen.

If that doesn’t work, because they are stupid...then

WE FIGHT!!!!!!!!!


79 posted on 10/05/2018 5:52:36 AM PDT by Maris Crane
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