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1896: Carl Feigenbaum, the Ripper abroad?
ExecutedToday.com ^ | April 27, 2017 | Headsman

Posted on 04/26/2020 9:17:47 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat

On this date in 1896, New York City electrocuted Carl Feigenbaum.

He’d been convicted of slaying the widow from whom he rented a room at eight cents per day … but many at the time suspected his homicidal exploits might also have traced to Whitechapel, under the dread sobriquet Jack.

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TOPICS: History
KEYWORDS: ancientautopsies; carlfeigenbaum; charlesallencross; charlesallenlechmere; feigenbaum; godsgravesglyphs; jacktheripper; ripper; theripper; whitechapel

1 posted on 04/26/2020 9:17:47 PM PDT by CheshireTheCat
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To: CheshireTheCat

There’s a floating theory that H.H. Holmes could have been Jack. The evidence was compelling, but I’m not entirely convinced. This was interesting, though. So many people came and went from London around that time that it’s hard to say who it could have been en, especially now that the evidence is no more.


2 posted on 04/26/2020 9:25:47 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

*been

Good God, how did that extra, “en” get in there?


3 posted on 04/26/2020 9:27:43 PM PDT by Tacrolimus1mg (Do no harm, but take no sh!t.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I didn’t realize they had the electric chair before 1900.


4 posted on 04/26/2020 11:17:29 PM PDT by montag813
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

H.H. was some sick wacko.


5 posted on 04/27/2020 4:51:02 AM PDT by wally_bert (Transmission tone, Selma.)
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To: Tacrolimus1mg

I doubt that. Different MO entirely.


6 posted on 04/27/2020 7:47:55 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: CheshireTheCat

Gotta love this.

Guy kills ONE person, tries to go for “insanity”, and is executed in 2 years.

What a long way we’ve come. Liberal fantasies coming true.


7 posted on 04/27/2020 7:53:25 AM PDT by the OlLine Rebel (Common sense is an uncommon virtue./Federal-run medical care is as good as state-run DMVs)
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To: StayAt HomeMother; Ernest_at_the_Beach; 1ofmanyfree; 21twelve; 24Karet; 2ndDivisionVet; 31R1O; ...
Jack the Ripper managed to commit his violent murders and escape without ever once being seen. Actually, he may have been spotted at one of his crime scenes.
Was Jack the Ripper Hiding in Plain Sight? | Published on July 30, 2015


Was Jack the Ripper Hiding in Plain Sight?

8 posted on 04/27/2020 8:29:50 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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Jack the Ripper: The New Evidence | Published on April 18, 2015

Jack the Ripper: The New Evidence

9 posted on 04/27/2020 8:34:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

The only available forensics suggest that Aaron Kosminski was probably Jack the Ripper. While the shawl that Catherine Eddowes wore the night she was murdered has serious custody of evidence issues and the DNA results were not strongly robust, it certainly points to Kosminski. The evidence would never result in a criminal conviction but it is the strongest case yet against any known suspect. Kosminski was a strong suspect from the get-go and the Jack the Ripper murders stopped around the time that Kosminski was committed to a mental institution. He’s probably the guy.


10 posted on 04/27/2020 8:38:51 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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11 posted on 04/27/2020 8:40:01 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CommerceComet
Actually, there is no DNA study worthy of the name, and the shawl has no chain of custody, AND wasn't listed as among the victim's possession. It's just a way to blame the Polack.

12 posted on 04/27/2020 8:41:16 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv

Nevertheless, it remains the strongest case against any of the Jack the Ripper suspects. That’s why I said that these results would never lead to a conviction but if there were to be some grand reveal of Jack the Ripper, based on this and other circumstantial evidence, I’d put my bet down on Kosminski (although I’d probably also put a small bet on none of the publicly known suspects).


13 posted on 04/27/2020 9:32:22 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: CommerceComet
He doesn't because the DNA study was botched, not least because there is no reason to believe she ever wore the shawl. The supposed DNA match turned out to be a typo, because the work was so incompetent.
May as well test DNA from all the supposed Ripper letters -- even the handwriting doesn't match, apparently they have about as many authors as there are letters, which is a little disquieting.
Last I knew, Scotland Yard wouldn't release the names of the various informants from the nearly 140 year old investigation, claiming it could endanger lives. That's good and nuts.

14 posted on 04/27/2020 10:12:51 AM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: SunkenCiv
Didn't The Journal of Forensic Science publish a DNA study in 2019 that reported that there was a DNA match of both Catherine Eddowes and Aaron Kosminski on the shawl? I don't know about the robustness of the results but that at least suggests it was her shawl and puts Kosminski in proximity to Eddowes. (Of course, there are chain of custody issues all over the place.)

The results are more suggestive than conclusive and the original results were vastly oversold (as is always the case with any new Ripper theory) but after 130 years, it is doubtful that any smoking gun is going to emerge. This might be as close as we will get.

15 posted on 04/27/2020 10:38:52 AM PDT by CommerceComet (Hillary: A unique blend of arrogance, incompetence, and corruption.)
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To: CommerceComet

Fractional mtDNA matches are not matches at all, since billions of us have a lot of mtDNA in common (16000 base pairs, something like that).

No, We Still Cannot Confirm the Identity of Jack the Ripper
By Jason Daley
smithsonianmag.com
March 18, 2019
https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/jack-rippers-dna-collected-shawl-though-doubts-linger-180971726/


16 posted on 04/27/2020 12:32:33 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CommerceComet

The error in the DNA analysis, performed by Jari Louhelainen, may involve something as simple as getting the numbers wrong. “This DNA alteration is known as global private mutation (314.1C) and it is not very common in worldwide population,” Louhelainen wrote. ” … Thus, this result indicates the shawl contains human DNA identical to Karen Miller’s for this mitochondrial DNA segment.”

The problem, Jeffreys said, had to do with writing the mutation as “314.1C.” In the calculations, it really should have been written as “315.1c.” “Had Dr. Louhelainen done this, and followed standard forensic practice, he would have discovered the mutation was not rare at all but shared by more than 99 percent of the people of European descent,” the Independent reported.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/morning-mix/wp/2014/10/20/report-how-the-scientist-who-unmasked-jack-the-ripper-made-a-serious-error/

earlier:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/science/jack-the-ripper-id-hinges-on-a-decimal-point-as-scientists-flag-up-dna-error-in-book-that-claims-to-9804325.html

https://www.casebook.org/dissertations/dst-edwards.html


17 posted on 04/27/2020 12:42:07 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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To: CheshireTheCat

I wonder if he ever paid his landlord with Flying Eagle pennies or just Indian Heads.


18 posted on 04/28/2020 4:32:40 PM PDT by Sawdring
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19 posted on 06/21/2020 1:40:08 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (Imagine an imaginary menagerie manager imagining managing an imaginary menagerie.)
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