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Sony Will Let PS5 Owners Record Their Voice Chats And Snitch On Fellow Players
The Verge ^ | 10/14/20 | Jay Peters

Posted on 10/16/2020 4:12:41 AM PDT by Enlightened1

Some PlayStation 4 users who downloaded the latest 8.0 update got an unwelcome surprise this morning: their console informed them that Sony had the right to record their voice for moderation purposes.

Here is Sony’s exact language:

Following this update, users are seeing a notification about Party Safety and that voice chats in parties may be recorded. Voice chat recording for moderation is a feature that will be available on PS5 when it launches, and will enable users to record their voice chats on PS5 and submit them for moderation review. The pop up you’re seeing on PS4 right now is to let you know that when you participate in a chat with a PS5 user (post-launch), they may submit those recordings from their PS5 console to SIE.

To translate that statement, it seems that by joining a voice chat, even with the older PlayStation 4, your voice can be recorded and submitted to Sony for moderation by another user. This could certainly be invasive — in theory, anything you say in a voice chat could be sent to Sony without your explicit consent. But the feature could also be a useful tool to help people report bad party members that may be harassing them.

To translate that statement, it seems that by joining a voice chat, even with the older PlayStation 4, your voice can be recorded and submitted to Sony for moderation by another user. This could certainly be invasive — in theory, anything you say in a voice chat could be sent to Sony without your explicit consent. But the feature could also be a useful tool to help people report bad party members that may be harassing them.

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TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Computers/Internet; Miscellaneous; Science
KEYWORDS: gameconsole; playstations; sony; spying
Big Brother is listening and policing gamers for "language".
1 posted on 10/16/2020 4:12:41 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

The original Model 1984 Telescreen has blossomed into many different forms. What is common to all is that people gladly invite them into their homes.


2 posted on 10/16/2020 4:45:20 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (When seconds count, social workers are days away.)
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To: Enlightened1

“It is for Party Safety, da Comrade?”

Seriously, if a player verbally states at the beginning of any party conversation that they do not consent to being recorded, how does any subsequent recording square with state law that makes it illegal to record?


3 posted on 10/16/2020 5:06:37 AM PDT by moovova
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To: Enlightened1
I'm really out of touch with video gaming. Which is probably a good thing because it appears to be an obsession with many who play them morning to night.

I prefer to be outdoors in the fresh air as much as possible.

My experience with video games consists of throwing quarters into Space Invaders and PacMan at bars back in the early 1980s. A little Wolfenstein 3D and DOOM in the early 1990s when I first got a home computer, but that's about the extent of my video game experience.

Unless you count FreeCell. A lot of FreeCell over the years. I got pretty good at it. That was my go-to game during long, boring conference calls at work.

4 posted on 10/16/2020 5:12:28 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (Orange Man GOOD!)
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To: Fresh Wind

I am sure more kids will probably call SWAT Teams on other players because they lost a game.

That use to happen from what I heard.


5 posted on 10/16/2020 5:14:46 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: moovova

I guess if you agree to the update, then you have agreeed.


6 posted on 10/16/2020 5:15:37 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: moovova
Seriously, if a player verbally states at the beginning of any party conversation that they do not consent to being recorded, how does any subsequent recording square with state law that makes it illegal to record?

Use of the product will imply consent.

Just like most websites. The PS5 log-in will probably have a used consent agreement that will include monitoring and recording of game chat.

What is kind of a grey area is that anyone using the product below the age of consent can on enter into a binding contract. That would leave out a great many users. Maybe the majority.

7 posted on 10/16/2020 5:16:02 AM PDT by Pontiac (The welfare state must fail because it is contrary to human nature and diminishes the human spirit)
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To: SamAdams76

Same here

Oh yeah that was me too at the arcade as a kid. Putting quarters in Pac Man, Space Invaders, Donkey Kong, Galaxy, Defender, Battle Zone, GORF, etc...

The last days for me was Castle Wolfenstein on a Commodore 64 along with some other games like Spy Hunter. Think that was 1986 when I got bored with video games and started chasing women. Haha!


8 posted on 10/16/2020 5:22:10 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Pontiac

If people reject it, then Sony may have to correct it.


9 posted on 10/16/2020 5:22:54 AM PDT by Enlightened1
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To: Enlightened1

Not an issue for me. I turn off team chat anyway, nor do I speak, so when I stomp a mudhole in someone’s ass on world of tanks, I can’t hear their butthurt that my tiger tank killed their postwar IS-3


10 posted on 10/16/2020 7:09:29 AM PDT by This_Dude
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To: moovova
Seriously, if a player verbally states at the beginning of any party conversation that they do not consent to being recorded, how does any subsequent recording square with state law that makes it illegal to record?

Do you ever get those "updates" to user agreements with 50 pages of 8-point Calibri type? Clicking "OK" or "I Agree" or "Continue" often constitutes consent for this sort of thing. Often, it stipulates that the act of using the service constitutes consent. Will those all hold up in court? I don't know, but I know it would be expensive to find out, and any result would be years away.
11 posted on 10/16/2020 7:43:35 AM PDT by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics)
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Someone made one of those ‘click’ agreements and sent it to Microsoft a few years back. It states that by using the software Microsoft agreed to give them a big pile of money or something...

I believe it got tossed out - but I wonder if anyone here remembers that incident and has details? It might have set ‘precedent’ on how such click-agreements operate... such as only containing standard language and ‘common’ protections for both parties...

Because it was impossible for most people to read and comprehend the legalese in those click agreements.

I remember South Park did an episode about that once, and by clicking on it one of the south park kids ended up being the middle of a ‘human centipede’.

They wanted to put Lady Gaga at the end of the centipede, noting that she was the only one who did it voluntarily.


12 posted on 10/16/2020 7:51:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (No consequence of repealing obamacare is worse than obamacare itself)
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To: This_Dude

Exactly, I never turn on chat to begin with, problem solved

I do single player stuff pretty much all the time anyway, and change my character to female when I can so I get the hot lesbian cut screens in bed with alien chicks like in Mass Effect, lol


13 posted on 10/16/2020 9:31:27 AM PDT by baclava
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To: Enlightened1

Better not say anything “Racist”, especially if you want to run for political office in the future.


14 posted on 10/16/2020 9:32:13 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: SamAdams76

Yeah. Microsoft has managed to ruin Solitaire, too. Now they want you to get a MS account in order to play Solitaire, and it is really difficult to get the game to load unless you are online.


15 posted on 10/16/2020 11:09:01 AM PDT by Don W (When blacks riot, neighbourhoods and cities burn. When whites riot, nations and continents burn.)
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To: baclava

I heard about something like that in mass effect. I play mostly world of tanks, war thunder, I’m a fallout fanatic and waiting for far cry 6


16 posted on 10/16/2020 11:10:50 AM PDT by This_Dude
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To: Enlightened1

Paris terrorists may have used PlayStation 4 to secretly plan attacks

https://www.nydailynews.com/news/national/paris-terrorists-playstation-plan-attacks-article-1.2436409


17 posted on 10/16/2020 11:40:06 AM PDT by Libloather (Why do climate change hoax deniers live in mansions on the beach?)
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To: Enlightened1

report bad party members
The communists use this.


18 posted on 10/16/2020 1:38:11 PM PDT by minnesota_bound (homeless guy. He just has more money....He the master will plant more cotton for the democrat party)
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To: moovova

The software is designed to block you from the party chat if you do not agree. There is a dialog presented as you attempt to enter the chat. Youtubers familiar with this can provide more info...


19 posted on 10/16/2020 2:15:57 PM PDT by Company Man (THEDONALD.WIN is the #1 site in support of our President! Visit today! THEDONALD.WIN)
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