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Trigger Happy
The Wall Street Journal ^ | Wednesday, October 15, 2003 | MARK YOST

Posted on 10/15/2003 1:02:20 AM PDT by archy

Edited on 04/23/2004 12:06:00 AM PDT by Jim Robinson. [history]

WEST POINT, Ky.--A casualty list from the Knob Creek Gun Range, which hosted one of the country's largest machine-gun shoots this past weekend, would look something like this: Two dozen old appliances. A dozen junked cars. Tens of thousands of rounds of spent ammunition. Zero people.


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TOPICS: Business/Economy; History; Hobbies; Military/Veterans; Miscellaneous; Outdoors; Sports; Travel
KEYWORDS: bang; cannon; class3; kcr; knobcreek; machineguns; mgshoot; title2
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To: Shooter 2.5; archy
Do y'all know where I can get a list of places in Texas which allows full auto shooting?
I'm seriously trying to buy a belt fed .30 or .50 caliber full auto.
I also need to know places that have 500 to 1000 yard firing ranges for the .50 caliber Barrett.

Thanks!

21 posted on 10/15/2003 8:39:56 AM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: msdrby; g'nad; ksen; 300winmag; Ramius; HairOfTheDog
ping
22 posted on 10/15/2003 9:39:43 AM PDT by Prof Engineer (Always use the word Impossible with the greatest caution ~ Werner Von Braun___ 5/14/04 Baby Moot '04)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
Wooo Hoo! Now that looks like fun!
23 posted on 10/15/2003 9:59:15 AM PDT by RikaStrom
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
A golf course is a waste of a good gun range.

Or something like that.

24 posted on 10/15/2003 12:43:03 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: archy
When is the next shoot? How do I sign up? I want to go!
25 posted on 10/15/2003 12:43:36 PM PDT by Oorang ( The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved)
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To: Shooter 2.5
Or something like that

LOL! The way you said it works just fine

26 posted on 10/15/2003 12:45:23 PM PDT by Oorang ( The United States Constitution (c) 1791. All Rights reserved)
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To: TexasCowboy
I'll have to ask the guys who sell the full autos at the Market Hall Gunshow. I think they might be able to set me up with some ranges. The downside is anyone who can afford something like that probably has their own land.
27 posted on 10/15/2003 12:47:08 PM PDT by Shooter 2.5
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
as a homeschool teacher you'd think I could proofread

I may be a filthy disgusting atheist or agnostic or whatever but I think it's time I did some serious praying for your son...

28 posted on 10/15/2003 12:47:51 PM PDT by Argh (...It's spelled "cannibal".)
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To: Oorang
The next Knob Creek shoot will be in Spring 1994, April 09/10/11, though there are other somewhat lesser affairs [and some better suited to those with specialized weaponry interests] but you'll find details on the next Knob Creek Range shoot here:

There's also a videotap offering that'll give you some idea of what a weekend there is like here: *I*, *II*, *III*, and *IV*

Knob Creek Range

Knob Creek Shoot video

Knob Creek vacation pics:

gallery I

gallery II

gallery III

29 posted on 10/15/2003 1:27:24 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: humblegunner
Cool!
Sign me up for the next one.

There's no *signup* needed unless you'd care to enter one of the compeyition matches, not all of which are conducted with the buzzguns. But if you are so inclined, right here you go.

-archy-/-

30 posted on 10/15/2003 1:31:24 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: Shooter 2.5
"anyone who can afford something like that probably has their own land."

Well, I was going to sell my house in order to buy one so I won't have any land to shoot on.

Seriously, please check some prices for me when you go.

Thanks, Shooter!

31 posted on 10/15/2003 1:41:26 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: Shooter 2.5; WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
"A golf course is a waste of a good gun range. "

I think it would be interesting to combine the two.

That would give new meaning to a golfer's concentration.

32 posted on 10/15/2003 1:44:42 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
Do y'all know where I can get a list of places in Texas which allows full auto shooting?

I'm seriously trying to buy a belt fed .30 or .50 caliber full auto.

There's a good ol' boy Texas MG dealer named Keith that's pretty heavily into the MAC 10 and .30 Brownings, and he should have a few ideas on ranges in your neck of the woods, too. Check out his website here, and drop Keith an e-mail for a list of the TX ranges he knows of. He's also been known to put on his own mini-shoots in Texas.

There's also a Texas dealer who sometimes has a .30 or two in stock with a website *here*. Link to his .30Browning MG and .50 Browning MG offerings at the links- his inventory changes frequently, of course.

-archy-/-

33 posted on 10/15/2003 1:47:15 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: WhyisaTexasgirlinPA
I doubt shooting is in the immediate future

You have my sympathy...

34 posted on 10/15/2003 1:49:08 PM PDT by Argh
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To: TexasCowboy
Of course, what I really want is that quad-mounted .50!

There's an M55 mount I know of available for around ten grand, if it wasn't snapped up at this last KC shootemup fest. Add on 4 Browning .50s [or a pair of 20mm cannons like the Israelis do, or a 7,62 minigun or two like Mike Dillon of Dillon Reloading (ever wonder why he got into making machinery for reloading ammo for mass consumption? Now you know)] or high rate of fire M85 .50 calibers, and you'll be all set.

A pal of mine in Texas has got one, just the thing for use behind an Army *Mule* ATV.


35 posted on 10/15/2003 1:55:39 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: TexasCowboy
A golf course is a waste of a good gun range. "

I think it would be interesting to combine the two.

That would give new meaning to a golfer's concentration.

just as a small personal observation, I understand some of the foreigh mortars just a bit smaller than the American M19 60mm can be turned into very credible golfball launchers, some with a range in excess of 400 meters, offering an interesting possibility for the long fairways.

Hmmm, no wind...caddy, get the model 50-PM-40 out of the cart. Charge four....


36 posted on 10/15/2003 2:12:43 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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To: archy
Hey, arch!
That's a good Web site!

I was disappointed that most of what he has is sold, but I'll keep checking back on his inventory.

I went ahead and joined "Gun Girls" while I was there.
"...exciting defenders of the Second Amendment...."
LOL!

37 posted on 10/15/2003 2:33:15 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: archy
"There's an M55 mount I know of available for around ten grand,"

That's the tops of what I can spend, archy.
I figure if I work two jobs for the next fifty years, I can pay for what I buy.
A mount wouldn't do me a lot of good without the guns, though.

Hummm....maybe I can work three jobs!
Yeah, sleep is a waste of time, anyway.

38 posted on 10/15/2003 2:38:37 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: archy
"offering an interesting possibility for the long fairways."

I might be able to make a birdie on a par five with one of those.
Heck, if I could get a par I'd be happy!

I think the biggest test of concentration would be trying to sink a twenty foot putt with incoming flying over your head.

39 posted on 10/15/2003 2:42:25 PM PDT by TexasCowboy (COB1)
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To: TexasCowboy
"There's an M55 mount I know of available for around ten grand,"

That's the tops of what I can spend, archy. I figure if I work two jobs for the next fifty years, I can pay for what I buy. A mount wouldn't do me a lot of good without the guns, though.

Hummm....maybe I can work three jobs!
Yeah, sleep is a waste of time, anyway.

Sleep? Oh yeah the state I've visited for 5 hours in the last three days. Yeah, I remember what sleep was!

If you're on a 10 K budget, you might want to stick with magazine-fed toys, it can be hell having a hungry belt-fed weapon with nothing to feed it. But a lot of .30 shooters are running guns set up to use 8mm German ammo, now available pretty cheap at around .04/round or so, better than the dime-plus for 7,62 or .30-06 M2 ball.

Or you might consider getting into one of the belt-fed Browning .30 semiautos, which start off in the $1000-$1500 range- if nothing else, they make a good starting place for learning the Browning innards and they can be teamed with a full-auto gun on a twin-gun mount. The barrels, feed components and topcover of the semis remain unchanged and are still usable as spares in a full-auto gun. And the 8mm conversions ought to work in either.

And there is another possible way into the full-auto .50 world besides the Browning guns...might be cheaper in the long run, might not be.

-archy-/-

40 posted on 10/15/2003 2:52:17 PM PDT by archy (Angiloj! Mia kusenveturilo estas plena da angiloj!)
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