Posted on 06/30/2005 5:36:48 AM PDT by franksolich
Temperatures rising.
I would love to see his email from the FOA. They must have pulled him limb from limb after his denouncement and his pathetic defense on CU.
He now knows for certain that the red round one and friends used him, duped him and left him out to dry with suspect 'documentary proof' and actually encouraged him to follow that path.
But if he had any smarts at all, he would have seen that the 'proof supplied to him' wasn't proof at all, just smoke and mirrors.
A google of the term doesn't really bring up anything I understand. It seems to be some technical computing term. This link is really only interesting because of the last name of the author is the same as our red round protagonist.
Is it a DUmmy code for Internet Messaging? I ask because in my googling it isn't capitalized like in the above DUmmie post I linked.
Other then things about graphical user interfaces, I only find reference in the British press about Palestinians using iconic manipulation by equating the swastika to the Star of David as in this link which appears to be a message board. Here I quote from it:
In a cruel use of iconic manipulation, Palestinians and the many radical groups who support them post the swastika next to The Star of David equating them. In a column earlier this year in The Los Angeles Times, Walter Reich, the former Director of the U.S. Holocaust Museum pointed out, " ... if the public could be convinced that Israel is no better than Nazi Germany, then the anti-Semites could again be back in business."
If so this also goes to his intelligence, as it was PITTiful.
My question is why and how can a person who purports to be such an intellectual align himself with a group that includes Kelvin, Badboy and BenthefistBurch.
They are so intellectually shallow you wouldn't have to roll up your cuffs to wade that stream.
In case you don't know, there is a NEW Scamdy thread in DUmmieland. I didn't DUFU it so it is all yours.
Well, I recognized "iconic manipulation" as it is used in symbols and all that--such as those exquisitely hand-painted icons of George Bush, Sr., that one sees in Orthodox Churches in the former Soviet Union (yes, believe it or not, while the rest of the world seems to have forgotten the first George Bush, he is still revered as a near-saint in eastern Europe).
Such contemporary icons are usually placed right next to an icon of a famous saint of the locality, or St. Michael the Archangel (the warrior of God, at least in my Catholic upbringing), or the patron saint of the country.
But as for computer uses, I have no idea; this seems like something the dirty one would engage in?
I think you are closer to it with this, rather than anything computer related.
Looks to me like some sort of "New Age" mumbo jumbo.
Given the context, it sounds like some kind of Wiccan voodoo thing.
SD
I thought they said Andy was released from the hospital earlier this week.
That was m first thought too and usually, it seems the more "new age" type stuff comes up first in a google search. I thought it might be some thing related to NLP since hypnosis was mentioned.
Another general observation is the DUmmies seem so wretched and miserable and filled with negativity, pettiness, jealousy, hatred and other rather negative emotions, that it may actually be doing Andy more harm then good to have them "send" their "good vibes" his way.
Andy might actually prosper if they started sending their negative, hate filled emotions.
They send all the hatred and vile pettiness they can must toward President Bush and he seems to do pretty well.
They send all their good vibes to Senator Kerry, the DSM, Howard Dean, etc. and they seem to diminish and even go nuts. Kerry has not emerged as any sort of viable leader since loosing in November, no matter how many secret symbols he sends by adjusting his tie.
They send all their negative vibes to the United States of America and to the economy and I just heard the other day that consumer confidence is up.
Maybe it's good luck to be cursed by a DUmmie?
"pettiness they can must"="pettiness they can muster"
Yeah, that happens, a misspelled word from too-fast typing.
One of these days I'm going to have to get myself a scanner for this home computer--right now, when I want to scan a document, I can go to the local library, which is open only from 2 until 4 in the afternoon, or to the local telephone company.
Well, the folks at the local telephone company already took off for the 4th of July weekend.
The deal is, while the computer at the office has all the bells-and-whistles and is less than a year old, this computer here at home is a 186 or 286 something, Windows 95, AOL version 3.0, black-and-white monitor, &c., &c., &c.
Does your PC have fax receiving capability? You could set your PC to receive, go to the office and fax the document to your home. Then you'd have a crude scanned image of the document.
SD
No, I think I'll just wait until this thing crashes, and then get a brand-new one, with all the bells-and-whistles and scanner and stuff--but no point in getting a new home computer until the old one is all used up.
For business, I use the best; for ordinary life I use whatever is around. That, sir, is probably why I do okay.
By the way, did anyone notice the gentle sarcasm, ".....Andy Stephenson's fundraiser(s)....."
Did anyone notice that, the "(s)"?
No, I think I'll just wait until this thing crashes, and then get a brand-new one, with all the bells-and-whistles and scanner and stuff...
I can't recommend Alienware enough. Not only do you get all the bells and whistles but you get an little alien with glowing red eyes to boot!
With Dell, all you get is a tipsy "E."
Beth is dipping her toes back into the DUmmyland pool of cash. She is posting on that thread that she has not yet asked permission to resume fundraising from Skinner yet, first she needs to gather what Andy's continued needs are. Another poster, Amazona, is slapping her down. Watch out Amazona, you do not want to get tombstoned.
Wonder how long Amazona will last? But maybe she's part of the group takin back the DUmp from the FOA.
She has lasted quite a while already. I'm curious to know what PMs are being sent in response to her.
37. please no more fund-raising here
Too many bad feelings as it is. An attorney should have set up a bank account to receive donations long ago. At this time we still don't have any accountability as to where the money is going.
I was emailed these posts that Andy supposedly made in October 2002.
With my income in the high four figures, I don't appreciate that I was asked for money (and sent money) for an heir to $70,000, pretty much an undreamed-of sum for me. In fairness to everyone who feels that they were misled about the need, please no more individual fund-raising on DU. I don't doubt that Andy is ill, and I hope he gets well soon, but I don't think it is right that the money has not been accounted for. People who pretend to be his friends, yet do not insist that he get proper legal assistance in handling his fund-raising and the funds, are not being a friend to him in the long run. He cannot be an effective spokesperson for anything if he is embroiled in an investigation or a trial for possible mis-use or diversion of some of the funds.
Forgive me for speaking up, but we were told that this issue was NOT to be discussed on DU...and for exactly this reason. Every time the issue is raised, people start dropping hints to raise more $$$ and the lack of proper legal paperwork again arises. I don't know how to do a screenshot but the text of the posts were as followed, both by Andy.
Here's October 16, 2002:
"But I don't comment too often as I am a dummy when it comes to high finance. Hell I even have trouble balancing the old checkbook. Seriously though...I need all the help I can get. I have an inheritance coming in soon...about 70k and I want to secure it instead of corporate "wrong doers" taking it away. What should I do? I'm so afraid...Why did they have to go and leave me any money in the first place. No I will fret over what I am gonna do. Put it in the bank? Stocks? Gold? the matress??? I'm so confused."
The other was the day before, October 15, 2002:
"I have been buying gold on the dips...I am real worried about the JP MOrgan derivatives problem and am using gold as a hedge. Do you see gold going higher still...Or are we in a bear market? I am so bugged over this. Thank God I got out of the market at the top. Now I am firmly in the gold camp. SO what do I do? God has advisors you know!"
http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_mesg&forum=104&topic_id=3984810&mesg_id=3987616
Well, no doubt one has to look in awe and admiration at certain members of democraticunderground; at their courage, at their heroism, at their integrity.
God preserve them, because we cannot, and the Andyites will not.
Holy Cripes... a relic...
I think Charles can envision the computer here at home--unlike the $2600 one in the office--some sort of old-fashioned moonshine still, as invented by Rube Goldberg.
People occasionally come from miles around to see it.
...or anything else. I am in awe of a DUmmie who actually admits it--though they misspell it! Here is your kewpie doll for a moment of clarity--no doubt a short one!
Betty honey, I'm not 'time-line obsessed' or an 'idiot', but I do worry about you.
You are obsessed with a person who is 'revered' for shouting to the world that we need transparency in voting, but hasn't offered any 'transparency in fund raising'.
Oh and by the way, didn't you have the 'diagnosis in your hands' back in May?
Why not give Andy a call and get permission to post it and put one of the questions to bed.
Hey Beth.. if everything is straight with the SOS, think maybe you ought to post the info before some 'freeper troll' gets it through a FOIA request? Wouldn't it look better if you posted it rather than a 'freeper troll'?
Wasn't it bettyellen who said he didn't have pancreatic cancer "as others have stated" a few weeks ago? Why are they still allowing her to talk? lol.
Apparently she has found the keys and escaped.
They're beating her up now.
As if Andy didn't give Will the thumbs up to go fundraising "big time" in February? Wasn't it February when the cancer scare started?
SD
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I wonder if they are going to do the next fundraiser through an attorney or bank? Beth should be setting this up now. I wonder if the WA AG/SOS is satisfied with the way this fundraiser was handled, meaning the case is closed. It appears this way if they are going to start fundraising again. Unless Beth isn't letting on what is really going on behind the scenes.
Will there be any updates from the Scamdy.com site as to what is going on in the investigation? I know they can't divulge info due to compromising the investigation, but it sure would be nice to know what is going on with it and the numerous individual complaints.
"Beth's on their claiming, again, that they had no time in April to hire an attorney and do the fundraising legitimately. "
That is no excuse.
The DUmmies have no idea about the SoS or anything else. Beth is just feeding them lines, trying to stop questioning.
On a related note, I guess the DUmmies must be OK with no bid contracts being given to Haliburton as well. There was simply no time to go through the process.
SD
Not only is it no excuse, it's not even true. Andy started asking for money in February for his pancreas.
SD
"Not only is it no excuse, it's not even true"
Do THEY even know the truth, anymore? (rhetorical)
50. Didn't Andy know the pitfalls?
Edited on Thu Jun-30-05 04:18 PM by Malva Zebrina
I agree with the poster Amazona. After what has happened here, many have found this fundraiser to be disturbing due to the chaos and questioning it has raised.
Andy was the keeper of the books for Bev Harris. Andy ran for office in his state, and as such, raised funds and had to account for those funds. Surely Andy himself was informed and completely aware of what needed to be done as far a raising funds goes. I find it difficult ot believe that people did not have one inkling as to how to be upfront about the fundraiser, and blithly believe that no one would think the manner in which it was done was questionable.
And, there is still no accounting at all as to how much this fundraiser raised for this cause. Further, someone said on one of the threads at one time that anything that is left over will be used for the cause, or something similar to that. People who gave money to Andy to help him get the needed medical care, may not necessarily want to give to the "cause", you know. People deserve a full accounting, and it is funnyj, but I remember saying the same thing about Bev Harris and her fundraiser on one of those threads after she was tombstoned.
Please, can you tell me how much money was raised? Can Andy? It would do a lot toward helping any further fundraisers -- not only here, but everywhere that people are being asked to donate money. People need to be aware of the pitfalls.
SD
No replies yet, and guest posts are not being allowed at the moment.
And I was working on a pithy response like "You can't tolerate the questioning of fundraisers by those of your own political persuasion."
SD
They never needed to hire an attorney.
The DUmmiette could have just gone to her bank.
Simple as that.
And besides, a DUmmie "attorney" said that if one goes the attorney route, half an hour, tops.
They are now attacking that person on the thread. Read it again...it's the same old thing.
Better try to save as much of that thread as possible, it may not last. LOCK!, BAN!, DELETE! may soon be making a dramatic comeback at DU.
sfexpat says they raised a little over $51,000. I thought Pitt had said a little over $56,000... but who is counting, right?
Yeah, alas poor amazona and Malva, daring to question the Andyites and the propriety of an unregulated fund drive.
But I've seen many things in my life, and sometimes I've seen a few huddled besieged people break out and vanquish those more, and stronger, than they.
It can happen; anything can happen.
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