MUSLIM IS NOT ISLAM - ACCORDING TO CAIR

[7thson]

I was watching O'Reilly last night and he had some guy from CAIR, whining about the use of IslamoFacist used by President Bush, BOR, and others. During the give and take, as BOR is bringing up various countries under Islam law, the guy basically states that being a Muslim is not the same as being Islam. On one point, he says about someone or something, they are Muslim not Islam. To me, they are just playing with words and trying to confuse people. Anyone else see this?

[ConservativeMind]

It sounds like the difference between calling someone a "Christian" and not "Christianity".

I thought a Muslim was one who practiced Islam.

[panthermom]

I see it as a bunch of ignorant people thinking we are as ignorant as they are. Peaceful people don't blow other people up on a daily basis. They were never told of that old saying, "Actions speak louder than words".

[TChris]

I don't think it's playing with words.

Here's my understanding of the issue:

Islam is the name of the religion. Muslim is the name of a believer of Islam.

Just as you wouldn't call a Christian person a Christianity, or a Buddhist a Buddhism, you shouldn't call a Muslim an Islam.

Am I missing something here, or is that all the CAIR guy was trying to get across?

[Dixie Yooper]

I'm not sure, but I think that if your Islamic, you can make the rug your praying on levitate and fly around the room. Then again, I'm not sure.

[muawiyah]

There's an element of flim-flam in the message, but the ol' boys from CAIR know very well that the primary document, the Koran, speaks favorably of killing Jews and non-Moslems.

Besides, Islam is not just a religion ~ it is a GOVERNMENT, and it's a SOCIETY, and it's a CULTURE ~ all wrapped up in one.

To be a good Moslem one must seek the elimination of existing government, the destruction of existing society with its myriad of social arrangements, and the imposition of Islamic culture in place of the native culture.

I don't see any problem with dealing with Islam as though it were an insuraction or riot.

[P-40]

Am I missing something here, or is that all the CAIR guy was trying to get across?

His words are confusing and his points could be made clear with some visuals...cartoons perhaps. :)

Did he complain about the 9/11 Commission Report calling them Islamists? :)

[WorkerbeeCitizen]

"MUSLIM IS NOT ISLAM - ACCORDING TO CAIR"

The headline is all I need to see to know its a LIE.

[conservativecorner]

Religion of peace my arse BUMP!

[the invisib1e hand]

i just don't think it matters anymore. jihad is jihad.

[SlowBoat407]

Okay... Muslimic fascists. Now can we stomp them?

[Paige]

Yes, he also tried to talk about people who proclaimed to be Christians that were Fascist. Finally the answer came to me earlier today, the play on words is to turn the world against Christian and Jews. These are the two enemies of Islam. This is a Religious war and the United States promotes Christianity (according to the Islamic Fascist) and as we all know the Islamic Fascist have always hated Judaism and the Jewish people.

Think about what the guy said last night. The answer is in his weak attempt to Propagandize with O'Reilly sitting there allowing the hyperbole to take place.

[theDentist]

Let me guess... "Not all Muslims are Islamo-Fascists, but all Islamo-Fascists are Muslims who CAIR."

[theDentist]

Let me guess... "Not all Muslims are Islamo-Fascists, but all Islamo-Fascists are Muslims who CAIR."

[texan75010]

If it walks like a bomb, talks like a bomb, smells like a bomb, feels like a bomb, it is usually a bomb. You can call it a rose or a ball or a bike, that does not make it any less a bomb.

The brown people originating from the middle east that regularly take part in blowing themselves and others up and exporting such behavior are dangerous. I don't care what you want to call them, they are dangerous. You can call them lambs and sheep, they still detonate with the same veracity.

Changing the name will not change the facts. CAIR is the mouthpiece that speaks the lies of the brown bombers.

[Hildy]

He was trying to say that we don't designate religions as being Fascist...we call Countries Fascist...But what O'Reilly didn't get a chance to say is that since there is no "state flag" these militants are fighting under, and since Jihad is the fight in the name of Allah...that's what is meant by it. It's all words.

Today, a young Arab-American girl in Michigan was interviewed (her brother was one of the guys released today for having all those cell phones). She said WE have to remember they are Americans. And I was thinking that once, just once, I would like to here one of them say, "WE UNDERSTAND WHY YOU ARE SO SENSITIVE and WE UNDERSTAND YOU'RE CONCERN with our religion in your Country, HOWEVER.....

How come not one spokesperson has ever said anything like that?

[vladimir998]

As a Catholic I know someone who is pro-choice, etc. is not really Catholic. I have a harder time saying that a Muslim, who is a radical Muslim, is not part of Islam. It seems to me that Islamic history is chock full of "militant" Muslims who were (and ARE) considered Muslims in good standing or of good memory even though they murdered thousands and thousands of non-Muslims.

[szweig]

No...Islam is NOT a religion -- it is a murderous cult. Anyone for starting the Third Crusade??!?

[Kenton]

I don't think it's playing with words. Here's my understanding of the issue: Islam is the name of the religion. Muslim is the name of a believer of Islam. Just as you wouldn't call a Christian person a Christianity, or a Buddhist a Buddhism, you shouldn't call a Muslim an Islam. Am I missing something here, or is that all the CAIR guy was trying to get across?

That's my take on it too, but there was more to it than that. His point seemed to be that just because a Muslim does something bad, that isn't an indictment of the entire religion.

That seems to be a logical position. Until you understand that it is the very nature of their religion that makes them do those bad things in the first place. And they have taught us that themselves.

[cousair]

That GUY from CAIR was the big stick at the top. He is totally full of SH.. He doesn't have anything truthful to say, and I am amazed that the press including FOX will even give him airtime. I had to finally turn O'Reilly off till the guy was off. These are ISLAMIC MUSLIM TERRORISTS.....all of them and we should understand this when their evil faces appear. They have a PR outfit that is next to none..and they lie beautifully. Remember what their end result is!