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"COLD CASE" - TWA FLIGHT 800 Movement in D.C. on FBI cover-up
World Net Daily.com ^ | August 17, 2006 | Jack Cashill

Posted on 08/21/2006 8:19:46 PM PDT by AnimalLover

Serious movement in D.C. – and if I hadn't been there, I would not have believed it.

For several months Joan Wire and her daughter have been trying to secure an appointment with a highly effective government official we'll simply call Mr. Washington. Joan Wire is the stalwart wife of Mike Wire. Mike is the storied "man on the bridge," the single most critical eyewitness in the saga of TWA Flight 800, the 747 that was inexplicably blown out of the sky on the night of July 17, 1996.

The CIA built its notorious zoom-climb animation around Mike's position on the Beach Lane Bridge in Westhampton. The FBI then used this animation to discredit all the eyewitnesses. To make Wire's story work to its advantage, however, the CIA had to disregard what Mike actually told the FBI and fully fabricate a second FBI interview with Mike.

The CIA likely chose Wire because as a Philadelphia area millwright he would have less influence and less access to the media than the many of the wealthy vacationers in the Hamptons who had seen what Wire saw.

In one of those providential moments, when the Wires called to tell me they had secured an appointment, I was hanging out with my 50 or so closest relatives at our rent-a-compound in the un-Hyannis honky-tonk town of Seaside Park, N.J. The Wires were just about an hour way. On the night of July 26, they came over for dinner. On the morning of July 27, we hooked up at the Chesapeake House on I-95 and carpooled into D.C. together.

On the way down, we voiced our shared expectation that Mr. Washington would usher us into his office, listen to us politely for 15 minutes, fake some emergency, pat us on our heads, tell us he'd look into it and send us on our way.

As it turned out, Mr. Washington ushered us into his office at 11 a.m., listened to us more than politely, and at 1:30 p.m., after two and a half intense hours, I stood up and announced that I had family obligations back in New Jersey and had to go. Joining us for that entire period was Ms. Virginia, Washington's chief intelligence aide. They were both all ears.

We began by showing them the eyewitness section of the video, "Silenced," which I had put on DVD primarily for this occasion, never suspecting that I would be the one showing it. Mike Wire then elaborated on his own role. When he spoke, no one doubted him. Although there were 270 others who saw what Wire had seen, his testimony alone is enough to convince the unbelieving. The more-than-solid, 6-foot 6-inch Army veteran has a no-nonsense air that nicely grounded everything he and I said.

For my part, I connected the political dots: the players, the motivation, the rough logic, the ad hoc decisions and the likely connection to Bojinka, now much again in the news, and Sept. 11. None of this shocked our listeners. They had had their own indirect contact with the players who form something of a Clinton shadow government in exile. These players are now publicly contributing to certain 2006 congressional candidates in the hope of securing power anew, power enough to shut down any future investigation.

We also discussed Sandy Berger's motivation in rifling the archives and shredding documents, the most under-investigated story since TWA Flight 800 itself. I speculated that Berger destroyed a Bojinka summary, which I know for a fact President Clinton had read and annotated in the late summer of 1996. The incriminating part of Bojinka, at least as it related to 9-11, I explained, was not the bombing of the planes, but the threat within to use planes as bombs. No one looked at me like I was crazy.

Mr. Washington was fully versed not only in Bojinka but also in the threat of its architect, Ramzi Yousef, to blow up a plane in the summer of 1996 to throw his New York City trial for Bojinka into mistrial. I could not verify that Yousef was responsible, but I could verify that he claimed to have been.

Toward the end of the session, Mr. Washington all but apologized to us for the state of government today. "It's not supposed to be like this," he lamented.

That provoked in me my "Mr. Smith Goes to Washington" moment. On the up side, I encouraged him, just one night earlier the Wires and I had been plotting strategy over hamburgers with my siblings while various little nieces and nephew swarmed around our picnic table. The next day, we drove down, joking how absurd it was that three average Joes like ourselves had wangled a high-level meeting on a story that could dwarf Watergate if broken. "Is this a great country or what?" I laughed, but I meant it.

The Wires and I have taken this story about as far as our information and influence can carry us. Everything we know we have already said. Whether Mr. Washington can take it further I do not know. He could surely use a little help from the New York Times or others in the media or others in government. This may never happen, but then again, I never thought this meeting would have happened either.


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I sincerely believe it's time to wrap up this "Cold Case" once and for all.

Either it was an accident or the plane crashed because of terrorist activity.

Too many questions remain unanswered - why were people holding evidence have it taken away, and then put in jail? Why were so many eye witnesses ignored especially when each reported the exact same thing? Why was Mr. Wire's interview deliberately reworded? How in God's name could a plane with a nose blown off be able to climb 13,000 feet - to my way of thinking the explosion would cause an immediate stall and the plane would immediately drop.

I think an investigation is in order - complete with a review of all "hard" evidence (pieces of plane, etc.) and a Congressional hearing that includes some of the witnesses - those in the military, airlines, those that are completely reputable.

One other thing, Capt. Lahr should be given all the information he has requested via the Freedom Of Information Act - properly requested through the courts. If it was just an accident, why does the FBI - CIA - refuse to release it?

And, I am concerned that too many people involved in this case are now involved with 9/11 and our current fight on terrorism. They do not instill a lot of confidence.

I am writing my representatives in Washington and wonder if anyone has any other suggestions?

Maybe we Freeper's can get this done if we get together?!

1 posted on 08/21/2006 8:19:49 PM PDT by AnimalLover
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To: AnimalLover

I attended Stony Brook at the time TWA got shot down. Yes shot down because too many people at the scene said they saw something go up to the plane first. Now why cover that up? Just admit it. Sheesh.


2 posted on 08/21/2006 8:21:14 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: AnimalLover

I suspect the full truth of TWA 800, will never be known..

Semper Fi


3 posted on 08/21/2006 8:23:18 PM PDT by river rat (You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: AnimalLover

btuis -- bump until I'm sober


4 posted on 08/21/2006 8:25:07 PM PDT by true_blue_texican
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To: AnimalLover
Most normal rational people know the plane was shot out of the sky. Maybe heads will roll, maybe not. It is just one more nasty coverup.

Maybe now they will also admit that the Arabs blew up the federal building in Oklahoma too.

5 posted on 08/21/2006 8:26:25 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: cyborg
"Why cover it up?"

Because if Bubba let it be known, he may have had to get serious about Islamofascism, that is why.

6 posted on 08/21/2006 8:26:30 PM PDT by dodger
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To: dodger

good point


7 posted on 08/21/2006 8:28:04 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: Nachum
Most normal rational people know the plane was shot out of the sky.

Most people who take time to look at the evidence and not all this conspiracy bullsh*t know it was not.

8 posted on 08/21/2006 8:31:45 PM PDT by COEXERJ145 (Free Republic is Currently Suffering a Pandemic of “Bush Derangement Syndrome.”)
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To: AnimalLover
For years, we were warred on by terrorists --one-sidedly.

I think they should open up the whole sordid TWA 800 thing again --this time to find out the truth, instead of intimidating people, twisting evidence, and jailing patriots (that lady and her husband).

Oh, and I still don't believe the BS about Tim McVeigh not having M.E. help...

9 posted on 08/21/2006 8:32:08 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: AnimalLover
Related thread
10 posted on 08/21/2006 8:34:30 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: river rat

Actually it is known......by the witnesses.


11 posted on 08/21/2006 8:35:15 PM PDT by BIGLOOK (Keelhauling is a sensible solution to mutiny.)
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To: cyborg

Good question Cyborg.

I always that that because it would have been very damaging to the Clintoon re-election campaign it was covered up.

I am not holding my breath on this however.

It would be a nice revelation to 'swift boat' the Shrillary campaign with though if it did come out.


12 posted on 08/21/2006 8:35:38 PM PDT by ChinaGotTheGoodsOnClinton (To those who believe the world was safer with Saddam, get treatment for that!)
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To: AnimalLover

bump.


13 posted on 08/21/2006 8:35:45 PM PDT by khnyny (Never in the field of human conflict was so much owed by so many to so few.- Winston Churchill)
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To: gaijin

Sandy Burglar stole important documents for the Clintons, no doubt. No matter what, Hillary cannot be allowed to steal the 08 election.


14 posted on 08/21/2006 8:37:19 PM PDT by getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL ( **Hunter-Tancredo-Weldon-Hayworth 4 President** I get it, Glenn.)
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To: getmeouttaPalmBeachCounty_FL

BTTT


15 posted on 08/21/2006 8:37:55 PM PDT by Unicorn (Too many wimps around.)
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To: dodger
Because if Bubba let it be known, he may have had to get serious about Islamofascism, that is why.

Well, he could've gotten as serious about this incident as he was with the attmpted destruction of the World Trade center in 1993. The most he would've done was to admit that flight 800 was indeed shot down, conducted investigations, and lobbed a few cruise missiles at the suspected targets. That's what he did in 1998 when the U.S. embassies were bombed in Africa. Clinton could've convinced the country that a few missiles shot at the culprit country or terrorist organization was enough retaliation.

Still, a new major investigation needs to be conducted regarding the shooting down of flight 800.

We could all bring new attention to flight 800 if every time we list the terrorist attacks against the U.S. and its allies, we include flight 800's downing as one of the terror acts.
16 posted on 08/21/2006 8:39:57 PM PDT by adorno
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To: AnimalLover

What is a millwright?


17 posted on 08/21/2006 8:40:13 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cyborg

Cyborg, do you remember, not too long after TWA, a story about a cache of weapons being found buried at a NY beach?

I remember hearing that on 1010Wins. I've never been able to find a print article on it.


18 posted on 08/21/2006 8:42:22 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: gaijin
I heard the reference to the arab guy real time on the radio news breaking the Oklahoma City story, then soon heard Bubba blather about right-wing Americans, and then the arab third man storyline disappeared ... all in about two hours.

Clinton covered up for the Islamofascists because he prefered his adolescent wank jobs in the "Oval" to the heavy lifting of the Presidency. Same with Flight 800 and all else to do with Islamofascism ....

19 posted on 08/21/2006 8:42:40 PM PDT by dodger
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To: adorno

I agree the case should be reopened and listed as an Islamofascist attack until proven otherwise.


20 posted on 08/21/2006 8:44:36 PM PDT by dodger
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To: Calpernia

I remember a story about a rocket launcher or something like it and that's IT. No articles nothing. You must be referring to the same story. I just don't understand the cover up.


21 posted on 08/21/2006 8:46:28 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: AnimalLover

AMEN! AMEN! AMEN!

If you have a ping list, please put me on it.

BLESSINGS,


22 posted on 08/21/2006 8:47:17 PM PDT by Quix (LET GOD ARISE AND HIS ENEMIES BE SCATTERED. LET ISRAEL CALL ON GOD AS THEIRS! & ISLAM FLUSH ITSELF)
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To: cyborg

YES! It was rocket launchers. I purposely didn't say that to see if you remembered the story!


23 posted on 08/21/2006 8:47:28 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: cyborg

Do you remember what beach? I don't remember which beach it was.


24 posted on 08/21/2006 8:48:38 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: AnimalLover

Anyone have any idea of how many people are involved in this cover-up?

Tens? Hundreds? Thousands?

Just curious...what are Freepers saying here?


25 posted on 08/21/2006 8:48:39 PM PDT by rlmorel (Islamofacism: It is all fun and games until someone puts an eye out. Or chops off a head.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Most people who take time to look at the evidence

So you buy the 'official' spark over the gas tank explanation?

26 posted on 08/21/2006 8:48:43 PM PDT by quantim (Victory is not relative, it is absolute.)
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To: COEXERJ145

If you were more than a TCN Baggage Handler for ASA, you might be concerned about NTSB Safety reports.

And wonder why a Boeing was tracked on radar and climbed after a "fuel tank" "exploded" and why eplosive residue was found on seats, or why private investigators were jailed; and not published in the NY Slimes.

But then that might be asking you do more than you are intellectually accustomed to.


27 posted on 08/21/2006 8:49:12 PM PDT by axes_of_weezles
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To: firebrand; Coleus

Do either of you remember this story? Cyborg definitely remembers the story I'm referring to about rocket launchers being found buried at a NY beach after TWA.


28 posted on 08/21/2006 8:49:39 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Cagey; LonePalm; frithguild

any of you remember this?


29 posted on 08/21/2006 8:55:24 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: JohnHuang2

ping


30 posted on 08/21/2006 8:56:08 PM PDT by Calpernia (Breederville.com)
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To: Calpernia

Wish I knew :( I'll bet the divers around that area know.


31 posted on 08/21/2006 9:05:23 PM PDT by cyborg (No I don't miss the single life at all.)
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To: COEXERJ145
Most people who take time to look at the evidence and not all this conspiracy bullsh*t know it was not.

Spoken like a nice little robot. The only bullsh* is what the administration tried to sell the country.

32 posted on 08/21/2006 9:15:23 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: AnimalLover

A review of the reports of TWA 800 can be found at Downside Legacy http://alamo-girl.com/0368.htm


33 posted on 08/21/2006 9:16:39 PM PDT by Humal
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To: Nachum

Don't hold your breath on either getting out. I know, for a fact, that Middle Eastern terrorists were involved in OKC. There is too much evidence of both Timothy McVeigh and Terry Nichols involvement with Middle Easterners, and Islamic Terrorists to dipute Islamic involvement.

And how quickly was the bombing on the OU campus swept under the rug? This kid had been regularly going to Islamic gatherings, he lived with two Islamic roommates in an apartment that was stuffed with bombmaking materials. And surprisingly neither of the two roommates knew anything about it, whatever!!


34 posted on 08/21/2006 9:17:50 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: quantim
So you buy the 'official' spark over the gas tank explanation?

Of course he does. He also accepts the exclusion of the NTSB's investigative unit from the crash investigation, the FBI's dismissal of hudreds of witnesses who actually saw the streak of light fly towards the plan, the confiscaction of every video and radar record of the skies at that moment, and the testimony of a Viet Nam Vet chopper pilot who described the explosion of the aircraft as he witnessed it (he was in the air at that moment) as "outside ordinance".

Right now he denying that agent orange causes cancer too.

35 posted on 08/21/2006 9:21:28 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: phoenix0468
Don't hold your breath on either getting out.

No, I'm not. I know the fix is in and we are being bamboozled again. Maybe the military wants to avoid a public panic, or protect their interests and involvement in the middle east from a wave of American public backlash.

It could be all of that and also a lot of graft, greed, and corruption that would be exposed if there was a real light shone on these events. It's a damn shame for the victims. They deserve better. We deserve better too.

36 posted on 08/21/2006 9:27:59 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: phoenix0468

I have another theory on the OU bomber since he was into chemical bomb making -- beginning to think that the disruption of him being blown up may have led to some other things being discovered. He spent time in Pakistan and the people in London seem to have the same ties.

Maybe I am off base here but the investigation went totally underground out of the public eye according to sources here in Norman. May not have been the cover-up it seemed if some folks are right -- more like an in-depth investigation that they wanted hushed up for security reasons that is now bearing fruit. First thing I thought of when I heard about what they were planning to do to blow up the planes from that group in London.


37 posted on 08/21/2006 9:44:17 PM PDT by PhiKapMom (God Bless America and the men and women who serve in our military!)
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To: PhiKapMom

You know, interestingly enough, fairly soon after the incident at OU, three Libyans or Syrians, can't remember which, were captured at the Mexican Border. I had heard that information relating to their capture came from the OU investigation.

So, you may be correct. What we don't know we don't need to know.


38 posted on 08/21/2006 9:47:54 PM PDT by phoenix0468 (http://www.mylocalforum.com -- Go Speak Your Mind.)
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To: COEXERJ145

I wonder how many pilots with over 200 hours and a multi think it was shot down.

Any pilot can easilly understand the zoom climb. Fwd section blown off, CG goes 20 feet aft of wing. Nothing else but a zoom climb would result.


39 posted on 08/21/2006 10:09:52 PM PDT by MindBender26 (Having my own CAR-15 in RVN meant never having to say I was sorry....)
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To: AnimalLover

Obviously it was terrorist activity, and was covered up.

It's so easy to coverup something of this magnitude. Only a few thousand people you need to subvert, buy, or otherwise co-opt. Piece of cake. /s

The only difference between this group of conspiracy theorists and the 9-11 Scholars for Truth is the name of the President they hate.


40 posted on 08/21/2006 10:48:40 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: Nachum
Maybe the military wants to avoid a public panic, or protect their interests and involvement in the middle east from a wave of American public backlash.

I won't debate the rest of your statement, but I take issue with you on this.

You need to be a special kind of idiot to believe that the U.S. military would take part in this sort of coverup. Leave us out of this, please.

And WTF would avoiding a "backlash" have to do with a ten year old aviation mishap, especially after the Cole and 9/11?
41 posted on 08/21/2006 11:16:45 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: MindBender26
Any pilot can easilly understand the zoom climb. Fwd section blown off, CG goes 20 feet aft of wing. Nothing else but a zoom climb would result.

Wing stalls. Engines revert to idle (per Boeing). No climb. Certainly not 3400 ft. Every pilot I have talked to has said "no climb." My father was an Air Force aircraft accident investigator... he said "no climb".

Other proof. TWA800 performed an almost perfect ballistic fall from 13,800 ft. It splashed down exactly where ballistic computers calculated it would in exactly the amount of time it should have. Had there been a zoom climb, it would have take more than 8 seconds to climb... an additional 8 seconds to return to 13,800 adding 16 seconds to the flight that the radar show conclusively was not there. TWA800 would have had to fly for 59 seconds if there had been a zoom climb... TWA800 was in the Atlantic Ocean between 38 and 43 seconds after the initiating event.

42 posted on 08/21/2006 11:17:21 PM PDT by Swordmaker (Remember, the proper pronunciation of IE is "AAAAIIIIIEEEEEEE!")
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To: AnimalLover

That's all well and good, but if WorldNUTDaily is purporting it to be true, I have to take it with a grain of salt the size of Utah....


43 posted on 08/21/2006 11:18:14 PM PDT by MikefromOhio (aka MikeinIraq - Go Bucks!!!)
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To: MikefromOhio

Frankly, I think these people have simply gone insane.


44 posted on 08/21/2006 11:20:17 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: MikefromOhio

Have you noticed that poor rcocean is frothing on and on (on another site) about the evils of those who dare oppose Buchanan?

Poor thing...


45 posted on 08/21/2006 11:32:55 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Petronski

Dare I ask which site is that?

I'm always looking to add to my collection of looneytoons web addresses.


46 posted on 08/21/2006 11:37:26 PM PDT by A Balrog of Morgoth (With fire, sword, and stinging whip I drive the RINOs in terror before me.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

It's the blog of our favorite pimp-bloggin' daddy...


47 posted on 08/21/2006 11:40:56 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: A Balrog of Morgoth

Whoops, my mistake. You've got freepmail.


48 posted on 08/21/2006 11:41:36 PM PDT by Petronski (Living His life abundantly.)
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To: Quix
If you have a ping list, please put me on it.

Sorry I don't have a list but as things unfold, I'll post to this thread.

Maybe if EVERYONE wrote their respective representatives and demanded an investigation - no matter how it turns out - accident or attack - we can put this to bed once and for all.

Understand that since Richard Clark announced this "exploding tank" theory - not one plane has been fixed in all these 10 years. Funny that this was the first time this happened and, it hasn't happened since?

49 posted on 08/22/2006 12:58:34 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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To: Humal

The following is what Captain Ray Lahr has been trying
to get ahold of
Records:
CIA:

08/16/2005
SECOND DECLARATION of Terry N Buroker regarding Motion for Partial Summary Judgment
407 Pages

Feb 28, 2005
CIA
261 Pages

Mar. 1, 2005
Air Force
2 Pages

Mar 3, 2005
Dept. of Transportation
23 Pages

Apr. 11, 2005
NASA
77 Pages

May 12, 2005
FBI
585 Pages

June 17, 2005
CIA
73 Pages

NTSB:

NTSB Declarations:

Declaration of Melba Moye

Chief of the Public Inquires/FOIA Branch Office of Research and Engineering, NTSB

Declaration of Dennis Crider

National Resource Specialist for Vehicle Simulation in the Vehicle Performance Division of the Office of Research and Engineering, NTSB

Declaration of Douglas Brazy

Mechanical Engineer in the Vehicle Recorder Division of the Office of Research and Engineering, NTSB

Declaration of Doug Breuhaus

Chief Engineer of Air Safety Investigation, The Boeing Company


NTSB Records:

NTSB Record 1 - Rapidfax Lead Sheet, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Air Safety Investigation (TWA Mass Properties)

NTSB Record 2 - Rapidfax Lead Sheet, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Air Safety Investigation (TWA 800 - Aerodynamic Characteristics)

NTSB Record 3 - Rapidfax Lead Sheet, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Air Safety Investigation (TWA 800 - Aerodynamic Characteristics)

NTSB Record 4 - Fax Cover Sheet, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Air Safety Investigation (TWA 800 - Aerodynamic Characteristics)

NTSB Record 5 - Chart Describing TWA flight 800 Mass Properties

NTSB Record 6 - Graph and Chart Depicting the Lift Coefficient of Boeing Model 747 aircraft; Graph and Chart Depicting Pitching Moment Coefficient of Boeing Model 747 aircraft.

NTSB Record 7 - Graph Depicting the Corrected Net Thrust At Maximum Power Level Angle.

NTSB Record 8 - 3 Graphs and 2 Charts Depicting the Lift Coefficient, Pitching Moment Coefficient, and the Drag Coefficient of Boeing Model 747 Aircraft

NTSB Record 9 - Graph titled "Free Response to Mass Prop and Aero Changes: Variation due to Thrust"

NTSB Record 10 - Fax Lead Sheet, Boeing Commercial Airplane Group Air Safety Investigation

NTSB Record 11 - Telecopier Transmittal Form, Air Line Pilots Assn (ALPA), Engineering & Accident Investigation Department

NTSB Record 12 - E-mail message chain between and among staff of the NTSB and the Boeing Company concerning TWA flight 800

NTSB Record 13 - Comments by an employee of The Boeing Company concerning the NTSB trajectory study

NTSB Record 14 - Text titled "Simulation Results"

NTSB Record 15 - Computer program written by NTSB staff to simulate the flight path of aircraft

NTSB Record 16 - Handwritten notes concerning TWA flight 800 "Post nose break trajectory"

NTSB Record 17 - Handwritten notes of NTSB employee's calculations for Addendum II to the Main Wreckage Flight Path Study for the TWA flight 800 investigation

NTSB Record 18 - Seven versions of a Presentation concerning the Affects of Forward Fuselage Loss

NTSB Record 19 - Graphic representations of FAA radar data for TWA flight 800: 1) Radar Data Overhead View Up to Last Secondary; 2) FAA Radar Data From NYTRACON, NYCTR and BOSCTR (Main Wreckage East-West Location); and 3) FAA Radar Data from NYTRACON, NYCTR and BOSCTR (Main Wreckage North-South Location)

NTSB Record 20 - Preliminary sections of the Safety Board's Aircraft Accident Report for TWA flight 800

NTSB Record 21 - Chart Titled "Radar Sites"

NTSB Record 22 - Text and Chart concerning alignment of radar data for TWA flight 800

NTSB Record 23 - Chart of a segment of radar data

NTSB Record 24 - Chart titled "TWA 800 Main Wreckage Simulation"

NTSB Record 25 - Handwritten Notes of Comments on Study

NTSB Record 26 - Air Line Pilot's Association (ALPA) Letter and Notes with comments on reports - two copies)

NTSB Record 27 - Table tracking the location in the ocean of debris from TWA flight 800

NTSB Record 28 - Chart titled "Query 3" - location of debris

NTSB Record 29 - Study Report: NTSB Main Wreckage Flight Path Study

NTSB Record 30 - Draft Addendum II to Main Wreckage Flight Path Study

NTSB Record 31 - Text and graph titled "Later Nose Separation Timing
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50 posted on 08/22/2006 1:08:53 AM PDT by AnimalLover ( ((Are there special rules and regulations for the big guys?)))
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