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Jesus: Tales from the Crypt
Time ^ | February 23, 2007 6:55 | Tim McGirk

Posted on 02/24/2007 2:25:18 PM PST by Havok

Brace yourself. James Cameron, the man who brought you 'The Titanic' is back with another blockbuster. This time, the ship he's sinking is Christianity.

In a new documentary, Producer Cameron and his director, Simcha Jacobovici, make the starting claim that Jesus wasn't resurrected --the cornerstone of Christian faith-- and that his burial cave was discovered near Jerusalem. And, get this, Jesus sired a son with Mary Magdelene.

No, it's not a re-make of "The Da Vinci Codes'. It's supposed to be true.

Let's go back 27 years, when Israeli construction workers were gouging out the foundations for a new building in the industrial park in the Talpiyot, a Jerusalem suburb. of Jerusalem. The earth gave way, revealing a 2,000 year old cave with 10 stone caskets. Archologists were summoned, and the stone caskets carted away for examination. It took 20 years for experts to decipher the names on the ten tombs. They were: Jesua, son of Joseph, Mary, Mary, Mathew, Jofa and Judah, son of Jesua. Israel's prominent archeologist Professor Amos Kloner didn't associate the crypt with the New Testament Jesus. His father, after all, was a humble carpenter who couldn't afford a luxury crypt for his family. And all were common Jewish names.

There was also this little inconvenience that a few miles away, in the old city of Jerusalem, Christians for centuries had been worshipping the empty tomb of Christ at the Church of the Holy Sepulcher. Christ's resurrection, after all, is the main foundation of the faith, proof that a boy born to a carpenter's wife in a manger is the Son of God.

But film-makers Cameron and Jacobovici claim to have amassed evidence through DNA tests, archeological evidence and Biblical studies, that the 10 coffins belong to Jesus and his family.

Ever the showman, (Why does this remind me of the impresario in another movie,"King Kong", whose hubris blinds him to the dangers of an angry and very large ape?) Cameron is holding a New York press conference on Monday at which he will reveal three coffins, supposedly those of Jesus of Nazareth, his mother Mary and Mary Magdalene. News about the film, which will be shown soon on Discovery Channel, Britain's Channel 4, Canada's Vision, and Israel's Channel 8, has been a hot blog topic in the Middle East (check out a personal favorite: Israelity Bites) Here in the Holy Land, Biblical Archeology is a dangerous profession. This 90-minute documentary is bound to outrage Christians and stir up a titanic debate between believers and skeptics. Stay tuned. --Tim McGirk/Jerusalem


TOPICS: Religion; TV/Movies
KEYWORDS: antichristian; boycotttimewarner; epigraphyandlanguage; faithandphilosophy; godsgravesglyphs; gospelofjesuswife; hewasarabbi; jamescameron; jamesossuary; jerusalem; jesustomb; karenking; letshavejerusalem; losttombofjesus; mariame; mariamne; marymagdalene; rabbismarry; sectarianturmoil; simchajacobovici; talpiot; talpiottomb; weddingatcana; whereisyourgodnow
I don't even know what to say.
1 posted on 02/24/2007 2:25:18 PM PST by Havok
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To: Havok
I don't even know what to say.

Try this:

My God, I believe, I adore, I hope, and I love you. I beg pardon for those that do not believe, that do not adore, that do not hope, and that do not love You.

2 posted on 02/24/2007 2:28:14 PM PST by Nihil Obstat
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To: Havok

see:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790579/posts


3 posted on 02/24/2007 2:28:22 PM PST by xcamel (Press to Test, Release to Detonate)
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To: Havok

(Rhetorical) If this is really what happened, why did the gospel writers tell us otherwise? And why did so many millions of Christians suffer persecutions for three centuries?


4 posted on 02/24/2007 2:28:23 PM PST by nwrep
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To: nwrep

"...why did so many Christians suffer persecutions..."

Why do so many muslim boys blow themselves up in expectation of 72 virgins?


5 posted on 02/24/2007 2:41:34 PM PST by Continental Soldier
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To: Continental Soldier
Why do so many muslim boys blow themselves up in expectation of 72 virgins?

You clearly are missing or ignoring the point.

The Muslims believe in what they are dying for. On the other hand, this story, if true, would indicate such an occurence would have been known to all the disciples and those asociated with Christ. Yet, they chose to suffer and die, for what they apparently knew to be a total falsehood.

Now you see the point, don't you? A man will die for his beliefs. No man will die for a known falsehood.

6 posted on 02/24/2007 2:45:15 PM PST by nwrep
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To: Havok
"amassed evidence through DNA tests"

Uh, now who would he have compared the DNA to? Jerry Springer? Strange.

7 posted on 02/24/2007 2:52:34 PM PST by Proud_texan (Just my opinion, no relationship to reality is expressed or implied.)
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To: Havok

Israel museum curators have discovered in recent years a lot of forged, Biblical era antiquities that originally fooled the experts. Link:

http://www.usatoday.com/news/world/2004-02-18-israel-antiques-usat_x.htm


8 posted on 02/24/2007 2:57:38 PM PST by Brad from Tennessee (Anything a politician gives you he has first stolen from you)
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To: Havok
"He has given us....his shoe!"

FOLLOWERS:

Oh! Oh! Ohh! Oh! Ah! Oh!
ARTHUR:
He has given us a sign!
FOLLOWER:
Oh!
SHOE FOLLOWER:
He has given us... His shoe!
ARTHUR:
The shoe is the sign. Let us follow His example.
SPIKE:
What?
ARTHUR:
Let us, like Him, hold up one shoe and let the other be upon our foot, for this is His sign, that all who follow Him shall do likewise.
EDDIE:
Yes.
SHOE FOLLOWER:
No, no, no. The shoe is...
YOUTH:
No.
SHOE FOLLOWER:
...a sign that we must gather shoes together in abundance.
GIRL:
Cast off...
SPIKE:
Aye. What?
GIRL:
...the shoes! Follow the Gourd!
SHOE FOLLOWER:
No! Let us gather shoes together!
FRANK:
Yes.
SHOE FOLLOWER:
Let me!
ELSIE:
Oh, get off!
YOUTH:
No, no! It is a sign that, like Him, we must think not of the things of the body, but of the face and head!
SHOE FOLLOWER:
Give me your shoe!
YOUTH:
Get off!
GIRL:
Follow the Gourd! The Holy Gourd of Jerusalem!
FOLLOWER:
The Gourd!
HARRY:
Hold up the sandal, as He has commanded us!
ARTHUR:
It is a shoe! It is a shoe!
HARRY:
It's a sandal!
ARTHUR:
No, it isn't!
GIRL:
Cast it away!
ARTHUR:
Put it on!
YOUTH:
And clear off!
SHOE FOLLOWER:
Take the shoes and follow Him!
GIRL:
Come,...
FRANK:
Yes!
GIRL:
...all ye who call yourself Gourdenes!
SPIKE:
Stop! Stop! Stop, I say! Stop! Let us-- let us pray. Yea, He cometh to us, like the seed to the grain.

9 posted on 02/24/2007 3:10:55 PM PST by zarf (Her hair was of a dank yellow, and fell over her temples like sauerkraut......)
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To: Havok

Here we go again, the libs trying everything they can to destroy Chritisanity. If it ain`t the DaVinci fiction now this. The Muzzies couldn`t get more loyal allies.


10 posted on 02/24/2007 3:11:27 PM PST by Screamname ( We will take things away from you for the benefit of the common good - Hellary Marx)
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To: Proud_texan

Tell me about it, the only way he could compare is through a known direct decendant of Christ. Who pray tell does James "I`m King of the World" Cameron know that nobody else doesn`t?


11 posted on 02/24/2007 3:13:43 PM PST by Screamname ( We will take things away from you for the benefit of the common good - Hellary Marx)
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To: Havok
In a new documentary

..but recycled garbage...

12 posted on 02/24/2007 3:16:24 PM PST by WalterSkinner ( ..when there is any conflict between God and Caesar -- guess who loses?)
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To: Havok
Who spells archaeologist as 'Archologists' in a major periodical?
13 posted on 02/24/2007 3:20:45 PM PST by MHGinTN (If you've had life support. Promote life support for others.)
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To: Screamname
Tell me about it, the only way he could compare is through a known direct decendant of Christ. Who pray tell does James "I`m King of the World" Cameron know that nobody else doesn`t?

Circular reasoning, as usual.
That is, assuming that they find traces of DNA in the remains, if any.
How can they possibly isolate that one generation from others that preceded it?

Yes, these clowns must know a lot of stuff no one else does!

Oh yes, if they find the "Jesus" DNA unlike any other in the present or ancient world, would that "prove" Christianity?

Which raises another interesting line of speculation... have these clowns searched Saudi Arabia for the tomb of mohamed? The only version of his going anywhere was in a freepin' dream!

14 posted on 02/24/2007 5:33:34 PM PST by Publius6961 (MSM: Israelis are killed by rockets; Lebanese are killed by Israelis.)
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To: nwrep

Well said. You are right on the money.


15 posted on 02/24/2007 6:10:57 PM PST by Clump (Your family may not be safe, but at least their library records will be.)
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To: nwrep
The Martyrdom of the Apostles
16 posted on 02/24/2007 7:13:37 PM PST by Anti-Bubba182
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To: nwrep

Amen. The blood of the apostles and early Christian church was awful, but a strong testament of people who believed the Son of God although they had nothing to gain -- and everything to lose -- in this world by doing so.

-- Joe


17 posted on 02/24/2007 7:25:01 PM PST by Joe Republc
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To: Brad from Tennessee

Don't believe everything you read in the MSM.


18 posted on 02/24/2007 8:09:56 PM PST by Varda
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To: Havok; Nihil Obstat
DNA?

Where would they get DNA samples from?

I'll repeat what NO posted.

19 posted on 02/25/2007 2:20:20 AM PST by Pippin
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To: Pippin

"Where would they get DNA samples from?"

I read a different article - they compared the people in the tomb to EACH OTHER to determine familial relationships.


20 posted on 02/25/2007 4:13:41 PM PST by GovernmentIsTheProblem (Now accepting tagline donations.)
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Just adding this to the GGG catalog, not sending a general distribution.

To all -- please ping me to other topics which are appropriate for the GGG list. Thanks.
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21 posted on 02/25/2007 6:41:17 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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thanks go to GoLightly and xcamel for compiling the list (thus far) of such topics:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1789769/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1789966/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790456/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790579/posts
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1790884/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1790953/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791244/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/1791251/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791352/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791365/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791383/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791513/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791544/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791583/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791588/posts
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/1791610/posts


22 posted on 02/26/2007 10:37:54 PM PST by SunkenCiv (I last updated my profile on Thursday, February 19, 2007. https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/)
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