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LSU edges USC for AP No. 1
SportingNews ^ | September 30, 2007 | AP

Posted on 09/30/2007 12:43:23 PM PDT by indcons

NEW YORK (AP) -- LSU reached No. 1 the hard way.

The Tigers edged past Southern California in the AP Top 25 on Sunday, even though the Trojans remained undefeated.

On a wild day in college football, when half the top 10 lost, USC avoided the upset bug that struck Oklahoma, Florida, Texas and Rutgers. But a sloppy 27-24 victory at Washington on Saturday night cost the Trojans the No. 1 ranking they've held all season.

USC is the first team to lose the No. 1 ranking after a victory since Nov. 3, 2002, when top-ranked Miami dropped after beating Rutgers 42-17 and No. 2 Oklahoma moved up after a 27-11 victory over No. 13 Colorado.

LSU, which recovered from its own first-half malaise to beat Tulane 34-9 on Saturday, received 33 first-place votes from the media panel and 1,593 points. USC got 32 first-place votes, 11 fewer than last week, and 1,591 points.

The voting was the closest since the second poll of the 2002 season, when Miami and Oklahoma tied for No. 1 and each received 27 first-place votes.

LSU is No. 1 in the AP poll for the first time since Nov. 2, 1959.

The rest of the rankings released Sunday bore little resemblance to any of the previous polls, thanks to a crazy weekend in which three of the top five and seven of the top 13 teams lost.

Overall, nine ranked teams went down, seven to unranked opponents.

California moved up three spots to No. 3, Ohio State jumped four places to No. 4 and Wisconsin moved up five spots to No. 5.

The rest of the top 10 featured some unfamiliar names.

South Florida, which knocked off No. 5 West Virginia 21-13 on Thursday night, made it into the poll for the first time two weeks ago. Now the Bulls are No. 6 in the country and West Virginia dropped eight spots to 13th.

No. 7 Boston College is in the top 10 for the first time since 1992. No. 8 Kentucky has a top-10 ranking for the first time since 1977.

No. 9 Florida, which lost 20-17 on a last-second field goal to Auburn, fell five spots. Oklahoma, which lost to Colorado on a field goal as time expired, dropped seven spots to No. 10.

In the USA Today coaches' poll, USC held on to No. 1, with LSU, Cal, Ohio State and Wisconsin in the top five.

The other two top-10 teams to lose this weekend took the largest tumbles in the new rankings.

Texas dropped 12 spots to No. 19 after it was handed its worst home loss of the Mack Brown era, 41-21 at home to Kansas State. The Wildcats entered the rankings for the first time since 2004 at No. 24.

Rutgers fell 11 spots to No. 21 after losing 34-24 at home to Maryland.

The second 10 starts with South Carolina at No. 11 and Georgia at No. 12.

After West Virginia is Oregon at No. 14. The Ducks fell three spots after a tough 31-24 loss to Cal. Virginia Tech is No. 15, followed by Hawaii, Missouri and Arizona State at No. 18.

Cincinnati moved up four spots to No. 20, a week after receiving its first national ranking in 31 years.

Clemson, another upset victim, fell nine spots to No. 22 after losing 13-3 to Georgia Tech.

No. 23 Purdue was the second newcomer to the rankings, along with Kansas State, and No. 25 Nebraska was the only team in the Top 25 to hold the same spot as it did last week.

Falling out of the rankings were Penn State and Alabama.


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I'm not an LSU fan but I think their #1 ranking is perfectly fair considering their superior performance so far this season.
1 posted on 09/30/2007 12:43:27 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

Better LSU than USC.


2 posted on 09/30/2007 12:46:10 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: indcons

GEAUX TIGERS!!!


3 posted on 09/30/2007 1:11:36 PM PDT by SeafoodGumbo
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To: Mrs.Z

LSU would clean USC’s clock any time.


4 posted on 09/30/2007 1:25:53 PM PDT by 353FMG (Government is the opiate of the people.)
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To: 353FMG

I’m not so sure, although after seeing what LSU has done to people all season compared to USC, I do think the ranking switch is warranted. LSU/USC would be one HECK of a college football game, that’s for sure.

I’ve got some trouble with USF at #6. OK, they knocked off West by God Virginia. That’s enough to vault them over teams like South Carolina and Georgia?

Silliness like polls are why I’m glad to be a Division I-AA (or whatever they’re calling it this week) fan. No polls, no bowls...at the end of the year, sixteen teams, four weekends, and the national champ’s decided on the field, not some computer somewhere.

}:-)4


5 posted on 09/30/2007 1:39:40 PM PDT by Moose4 (Ron Paul is like a beautiful plate of food ruined by a cow patty.)
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To: indcons

Never really understood the big deal over whose number one. As long as you’re in the top two thats all that matters.


6 posted on 09/30/2007 4:53:33 PM PDT by fkabuckeyesrule (Revenge begins on December 22nd!!!!!)
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To: indcons

The Tigermania on this thread aside, LSU struggled against #114 Tulane while SC struggled against #46 Washington. Seems hard to justify a ranking reversal.


7 posted on 09/30/2007 5:16:51 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: fkabuckeyesrule; All

Easy to read polls-—

http://sports.yahoo.com/ncaaf/polls;_ylt=AgyL5cjy3MLobKhLrTxm.cccvrYF


8 posted on 09/30/2007 5:20:43 PM PDT by scott says
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To: ABG(anybody but Gore); aft_lizard; Archie Bunker on steroids; Auntbee; Bad~Rodeo; Bat_Chemist; ...
The FR College Football Ping List
FReepmail GOP_Raider to be on or off this list

9 posted on 09/30/2007 5:24:44 PM PDT by GOP_Raider ("I guess I like to do things that bother people." -Urban Meyer)
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To: Bat_Chemist

Last night you predicted South Florida would be #6—
well you were right!
Check out the new polls!


10 posted on 09/30/2007 5:25:03 PM PDT by scott says
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To: GOP_Raider; scott says; All

A brief thanks to scott says for doing a fantastic job with the live thread this weekend. If you see scott says, go up to him and give him a big hug.


11 posted on 09/30/2007 5:25:57 PM PDT by GOP_Raider ("I guess I like to do things that bother people." -Urban Meyer)
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To: indcons
South Florida, which knocked off No. 5 West Virginia 21-13 on Thursday night, made it into the poll for the first time two weeks ago. Now the Bulls are No. 6 in the country

That's right! Reccanize.

12 posted on 09/30/2007 5:26:30 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: 353FMG
LSU would clean USC’s clock any time.

Big talk. How about a home-and-home series? Let's settle it fair-and-square! Recently, SC has done home-and-homes with Auburn, Arkansas, and Nebraska. Next up is Ohio State, and SC just scheduled Boston College. But such big talkers can surely be squeezed in somewhere....

By the way, what home-and-home series have the mighty Tigers been playing, and what schools are scheduled?

13 posted on 09/30/2007 5:28:39 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: indcons

The vote is not unreasonable, but if USC and LSU meet for the BCS championship game; USC will win handily.


14 posted on 09/30/2007 5:29:06 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: SeafoodGumbo

I rather support a Tiger than a Trojan.


15 posted on 09/30/2007 5:39:12 PM PDT by Biggirl (A biggirl with a big heart for God's animal creation.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
LSU struggled against #114 Tulane while SC struggled against #46 Washington. Seems hard to justify a ranking reversal.

A 34-9 struggle is a different kind of struggle than a 27-24 struggle.

16 posted on 09/30/2007 7:36:57 PM PDT by rogue yam
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To: ovrtaxt

At least one Florida team can be Auburn.


17 posted on 09/30/2007 7:39:38 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: dfwgator

be=beat


18 posted on 09/30/2007 7:40:01 PM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: scott says

My beeber is stuned. This is hugh! And series! USF could play for the National Championship! All that has to happen is USC beat Cal, Oregon beat USC, and Michigan beat Ohio State! Never mind...Michigan can’t beat anyone this year. </sigh> An alum can dream, can’t he?


19 posted on 09/30/2007 7:48:08 PM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: ovrtaxt

YEAH baby! Go Bulls!

Class of ‘91, Chemistry.


20 posted on 09/30/2007 7:49:02 PM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: Hebrews 11:6
By the way, what home-and-home series have the mighty Tigers been playing, and what schools are scheduled?

Are you even serious? Try Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia...do I have to go on? USC in the SEC loses 3 or 4 games this year. Give me a break!

21 posted on 09/30/2007 7:51:19 PM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: dfwgator

Right on!

And wrt the Bulls being the the #1 team in the state, I guess the polls say it’s so now!


22 posted on 09/30/2007 7:52:30 PM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: Bat_Chemist
Sorry, USC wouldn't lose 3 or 4 games in any conference, including the SEC.

That being said, I would vote LSU #1, USC #2 after seeing them both play.

23 posted on 09/30/2007 8:16:26 PM PDT by Lakeshark (Thank a member of the US armed forces for their sacrifice)
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To: GOP_Raider

What happened is someone changed their vote for USC to Wsshington (they have 1 vote) and LSU is now tops.

I find that hilarious.


24 posted on 09/30/2007 9:09:57 PM PDT by BurbankKarl
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To: Hebrews 11:6

Auburn and Arkansas were the only SEC teams that had the guts to schedule SC for their out-of-conference games during the Pete Carroll era and the results speak for themselves. Hopefully, SC and LSU can meet in the post season. I know Les Miles’ pre-season remarks will be a great motivator for Sedrick Ellis et al. I just hope the Trojans can limit the penalties while they emasculate the Tigers.


25 posted on 09/30/2007 9:23:54 PM PDT by rockthecasbah (He has sounded forth the trumpet that shall never call retreat.)
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To: SeaHawkFan

Yep...they said the same thing about Ohio State in last year’s NC game. Teams from the SEC are underrated by fans from outside the conference because the latter don’t acknowledge how good a team has to be in order to remain undefeated in the SEC.

No offense meant personally.


26 posted on 09/30/2007 9:29:55 PM PDT by indcons
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To: indcons

I never thought Ohio State had a chance against Florida.


27 posted on 09/30/2007 9:41:12 PM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: indcons

One of the few time when I enjoy the phrase, “The Trojans Slip”

My Horns :(


28 posted on 10/01/2007 3:52:52 AM PDT by wolfcreek (The Status Quo Sucks!)
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To: indcons

All I know is that Virginia is 4-1, and we’re good! Go Hoos!


29 posted on 10/01/2007 3:56:27 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: indcons
Here's my top 10. I'm sure you'll all agree. ;O)

California
Louisiana State
Ohio State
Southern California
Arizona State
Wisconsin
Cincinnati
Connecticut
South Florida
Hawaii
30 posted on 10/01/2007 4:16:32 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Mrs.Z

Neither is an acceptable option...


31 posted on 10/01/2007 5:19:01 AM PDT by Hurricane Andrew (History teaches that wars begin when governments believe the price of aggression is cheap.)
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To: moose2004
All I know is that Virginia is 4-1, and we’re good! Go Hoos!

They'll be playing my UConn Huskies Oct 13th. Both teams are playing well. It should be a good game.
32 posted on 10/01/2007 5:36:25 AM PDT by Man50D (Fair Tax, you earn it, you keep it!)
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To: Man50D

I agree, it’s Virginia’s Homecoming Weekend, I’ll be going.


33 posted on 10/01/2007 5:53:32 AM PDT by moose2004 (You Can Run But You Can't Hide!)
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To: indcons
What a bloodbath.

It looked like Texas couldn't fight their way out of a wet paper bag.

With their performance all season, I wouldn't have them ranked.

34 posted on 10/01/2007 6:27:13 AM PDT by Tolkien (There are things more important than Peace. Freedom being one of those.)
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To: Bat_Chemist

Class of ‘91, Fine Arts!

Of course, I dropped out in 89 to work full time in stage production, and went back to college later- to get a degree in theology! (not from USF lol)

So, I’m either inconsistent, or well-rounded. :) Go Bulls!


35 posted on 10/01/2007 6:36:15 AM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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To: indcons

“I’m not an LSU fan but I think their #1 ranking is perfectly fair considering their superior performance so far this season.”

I’m a Trojan fan, but I have to admit SC played horribly Saturday night and doesn’t deserve to be no. 1 because of that. A few bad calls by the officials against SC, but even so, there was no excuse for all the other penalties.

It reminded me of last year when they played very well against the ranked teams but screwed up against two bad unranked teams. Hope this isn’t a repeat of last year!


36 posted on 10/01/2007 7:02:06 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: 353FMG

“LSU would clean USC’s clock any time.”

At least USC’s motto is to “play any team, anywhere, anytime.” Unfortunately, many teams refuse every year to play them, including LSU.


37 posted on 10/01/2007 7:06:43 AM PDT by tabsternager
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To: ovrtaxt

Sounds like my path to a degree! I was on the 6-year plan...3 years at HCC, 3 years at USF. It didn’t help that I didn’t know what I was going to major in until I got my AA...

How do you like that #6 AP ranking?


38 posted on 10/01/2007 7:34:07 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: indcons
IMHO LSU deserves the #1 ranking because they play in the toughest conference and still win big every week. The FL Gators were overrated at #3 at the beginning of the season because of their #1 ranking from last year, but reality is beginning to sink in now that they lost at home to Auburn on Saturday and barely managed to get by Mississippi the week before. The Gators are going to be skinned alive when they visit Baton Rouge Saturday. IMHO they should be ranked somewhere around #15, and then only because of their excellent double-threat quarterback Tebow. Without him they would be about #25.

AFAIC the most surprising team in the top ten by far is South Florida. When I lived down there just a few years ago the University of South Florida didn't even field a football team, and now they're #6 in the nation. Way to go Bulls!

39 posted on 10/01/2007 7:43:27 AM PDT by epow ("That which thy fathers bequeathed thee, earn it anew if thou wouldst keep it")
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How long do you think USF can keep Leavitt, I bet there are a lot of people in South Bend and Ann Arbor that would love to have him.


40 posted on 10/01/2007 7:55:46 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: 353FMG
LSU would clean USC’s clock any time.

I recall the Sooner fans saying the same thing a few years ago.

41 posted on 10/01/2007 7:57:38 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: Man50D
The one team that I believe got the short end of the stick in the polls was Oregon. They took Cal down to the wire and lost only because of the fumble at the end. If Cameron had tucked that ball in Oregon would have had one more chance at a victory.

I don't think Cal jumps that much from their prior position nor should Oregon have fallen as much as they did.

42 posted on 10/01/2007 8:04:22 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: tabsternager
As a Trojan fan, I agree fully with what you have said. I also think this might serve as both a wake up call to USC, as it gives them something to prove and it could prove to add some complacency to LSU, as now, in their minds, they have gotten what they have deserved all along.

I am perfectly fine with being #2 and settling it in the Sugar Bowl.

43 posted on 10/01/2007 8:08:37 AM PDT by Michael.SF. ("democrat" -- 'one who panders to the crude and mindless whims of the masses " - Joseph J. Ellis)
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To: dfwgator

With Weis’ contract, ND can’t afford to get rid of him. With the ND performance this year, no NFL team would take him. Tyrone Willingham must be enjoying the ND season.


44 posted on 10/01/2007 9:38:24 AM PDT by SeaHawkFan
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To: Michael.SF.

“I am perfectly fine with being #2 and settling it in the Sugar Bowl.”

Still won’t matter. USC would likely boat-race LSU just like they have pretty much every other non-conference opponent over the past five years (the exception a last-second loss to Vince Young) including 4 consecutive years of SEC opponents Auburn and Arkansas, but LSU and SEC fans would still insist that they were better.


45 posted on 10/01/2007 9:44:52 AM PDT by raptor29
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To: dfwgator

A good question. This isn’t like a coach that took an established football team and made them great (ala Bobby Bowden @ FSU), but Leavitt built this entire football program...it is HIS and nobody else’s. How often in your life do you get to say something like that?

FWIW, I think he’ll stay until he’s tired of it. I don’t think $$ will come into the picture...and besides, who would choose Michigan or Indiana’s winters over Florida’s?


46 posted on 10/01/2007 10:23:04 AM PDT by Bat_Chemist (The devil has already outsmarted every athiest.)
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To: Bat_Chemist

Who knows, he could wind up at FSU after Booby retires.


47 posted on 10/01/2007 10:35:20 AM PDT by dfwgator (The University of Florida - Still Championship U)
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To: Michael.SF.

“I also think this might serve as both a wake up call to USC, as it gives them something to prove...”

I sure hope so.

Speaking of that, LSU had better watch out for Florida as well. I wouldn’t be surprised if Florida makes a strong comeback after their loss.


48 posted on 10/01/2007 10:49:46 AM PDT by tabsternager
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Are you even serious? Try Florida, Auburn, Tennessee, Georgia...do I have to go on?

A moment's reflection should be enough for you to realize I was referring to out-of-conference home-and-home series.

And so, what is the answer?

49 posted on 10/01/2007 12:21:35 PM PDT by Hebrews 11:6 (Do you REALLY believe that (1) God is, and (2) God is good?)
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To: Bat_Chemist

#6 is good! Not as good as #5 or better, but we’ll see how the rest of the season unfolds.


50 posted on 10/01/2007 1:32:42 PM PDT by ovrtaxt (Sworn to oppose control freaks, foreign and domestic.)
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