Posted on 08/22/2008 5:40:29 AM PDT by afzalrizvi
Civilized world vs uncivilzed
The civilized world uses paragraphs.
Target sighted over here.
And in what way can you term Muslim countries "developing"? The first thing they did when they took over the abandoned Israeli land was to smash greenhouses that had been producing food, because they were once owned by the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE. A developing culture would have at least stopped to use the resources they had inherited, rather than being so consumed by hate that they destroyed everything that might be useful.
In America, we are only 230 years or so old. Our POOR eat well and have color TV's, for what that is worth. We EAT for ENTERTAINMENT, for heaven's sake! We walked on the moon twenty YEARS ago, have eradicated most disease, and feed the world, although the world rarely thanks us. We can do this because we don't waste our time killing each other over what God wants us to eat for breakfast. The Japanese killed my uncle in WWII, and today we buy electronics from them, and I don't really care. The English near enslaved my ancestors, the Irish, but I don't go out and kill them for "honor". We live in the here and now, embrace new science, and go on with our lives. My God does not care if I sing popular songs, and I will never be order by a holy man to let my child blow up infidels. That is civilized enough for me.
America has generally promoted the idea that if you don't come gunning for us, we will leave you alone. But when we have had to, we have changed the world. We have save everybody else from the Nazis, from the Communists, and probably down the timeline, we will have to save it from the mouth-frothing Imams and Mullahs who want my people enslaved, my culture dead, and any machine more complicated than an inclined plane eradicated. Despite the whailings of malcontents, America has stayed within 50 states, and although we have gone to war to save other and protect ourselves, we "own" no new territory outside of that. We could have easily taken over Kuwait, or Iraq as our personal oil well, but have not...and have done all we can, pouring billions into building schools and public works like clean water so that a bunch of Muslim murderers could blow them up, along with their own "brother Muslims", and as long as "infidels" were killed, those Muslims had no problem killing their own people.
So don't go lecturing me on "civilized" you barbarian-by -association. Stop listening to violent "holy men", stop killing your daughters for "honor", stop beating your wives for fun, stop proclaiming that you are so superior that slavery of MY people is fine, stop blowing up your neighbors, stop maintaining the pathetic 2-faced Arab attitude that it is OK to lie to me (as long as it is done For Allah), and then, MAYBE, I will respect the thing you call civilization. If you didn't have the oil, we could ignore you like we did in the past. But on 911 your paranoia and delusions of your own importance caused some of your kind to kill 3000 innocent people, some of whom got to choose between burning to death and death by impact a thousand feet down, and then the civilized world woke up to what you are really about. And then you have the gall to blame it on US, or the JOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOSE, or say "well, they weren't really Muslims." Sorry pal. Go peddle your paranoia back home where they will believe it.
So go blow it out your smokestack.
It should be noted that Judaism and Christianity never taught the attitudes toward women that are taught in Islam. Even in the 7th Century our priests and rabbis were telling our men to honor their wives and the priests were telling them to love their wive the way Christ loved the church.
I can’t believe that you have one of those loaded and charged and just sitting around on the floor. Talk about irresponsible.
This is the only thing you said that is true. Humans are moral creatures. We require context above the black and white blandness of fact in order to decide on the value of things.
Islam will slide a knife across your throat while looking you in the eye. They believe in 'submission' to Allah enough to kill you for it. In context, your death is justified, and Islam's conquest is moral.
The West, in large parts, has become unwilling to kill for what it believes in. This means, in a strictly human context, we have lost our moral authority. No matter how sophisticated the human behind the computer, he'll never outgrow the animal within. That animal instinctively understands one thing; anyone who won't kill for what he believes or die for what he believes, doesn't believe in anything worth listening to.
That wisdom on the house, alzalrizvi. Keep the change.
ZOT! ta-ta troll
Could the problems of the Muslim world be traced to the fact that Islam was founded by an illiterate bandit chief?
IBTZ
IBTZ!!
An understametent if I ever heard one.
Yet to say that Muslims are more uncivilized than those pepole living in the west is a wrong hypothesis.
No, it's a correct one.
What is the most striking irony of the western world is that despite its having much achievements in science, education and research, it is lacking in filling that moral profile or standard that is required by the dictates of humanity.
Moral profile? You mean it's morals to behead people on video, to burn them and drag their charred corpses through the streets, it's moral to celebrate when some muslims fly planes into buildings to kill people with horrible deaths?
And you signed up today to post this drivel?
Whatsamatter. Slow day at DU? Time for a suicide run to keep it lively?
Yeah, but it’s fun when the mods let us play with the troll first. I like it when they don’t zot too quickly.
That does it - now there will be a fatwa issued against every keyboard user in the world. ;)
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