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Posted on 11/28/2008 7:36:05 PM PST by mainestategop


Beethoven: Revealing His True Identity

 

 In the 15th and 16th century, written history underwent a massive campaign of misinformation and deception. WithBeethoven the European slave trade in full swing, Afrikans were transported to various parts of the world and were stripped of every aspect of their humanity, and in most of western civilization, were no longer considered human. This triggered a wholesale interpretation of history that methodically excluded Afrikans from any respectful mention, other than a legacy of slavery. This can result in being taught, or socialized, from one perspective. In this instance, historical information tends to flow strictly from a European perspective. No judgment of right or wrong is being made here, only that the breadth was very narrow in scope.

In an age where history is seriously being rewritten, new information is coming forth that is shocking intellectual sensitivities. What was once considered written in stone is now melting away with the discovery of facts that heretofore have been hidden or omitted; things so different that they are generally classified as controversial or unusual.

What specifically is being referenced, is the true identity of Ludwig van Beethoven, considered Europe’s greatest classical music composer. Directly, Beethoven was a black man. Specifically, his mother was a Moor, that group of Muslim Africans who conquered parts of Europe--making Spain their capital--for some 800 years.Beethoven

In order to make such a substantial statement, presentation of verifiable evidence is compulsory. Let's start with what some of Beethoven's contemporaries and biographers say about his appearance. Frau Fisher, a close friend of Beethoven, described him with “blackish-brown complexion.” Frederick Hertz, German anthropologist, used these terms to describe him: “Negroid traits, dark skin, flat, thick nose.”

Emil Ludwig, in his book “Beethoven,” says: “His face reveals no trace of the German. He was so dark that people dubbed him Spagnol [dark-skinned].” Fanny Giannatasio del Rio, in her book “An Unrequited Love: An Episode in the Life of Beethoven,” wrote “His somewhat flat broad nose and rather wide mouth, his small piercing eyes and swarthy [dark] complexion, pockmarked into the bargain, gave him a strong resemblance to a mulatto.” C. Czerny stated, “His beard--he had not shaved for several days--made the lower part of his already brown face still darker.”

 Following are one word descriptions of Beethoven from various writers: Grillparzer, “dark”; Bettina von Armin, “brown”; Schindler, “red and brown”; Rellstab, “brownish”; Gelinek, “short, dark.”

Newsweek, in its Sept. 23, 1991 issue stated, “Afrocentrism ranges over the whole panorama of human history, coloring in the faces: from Australopithecus to the inventors of mathematics to the great Negro composer Beethoven.”

BeethovenOf course, in the world of scholarship there are those who take an opposite view. In the book The Changing Image of Beethoven by Alessandra Comini, an array of arguments are presented. Donald W. MacArdle, in a 1949 Musical Quarterly article came to the conclusion that there was “no Spanish, no Belgian, no Dutch, no African” in Beethoven's genealogy. Dominque-Rene de Lerma, the great musical bibliologist, came to the same conclusion.

Included in this amazing discussion is a reference made of Beethoven’s teacher, Andre de Hevesy, in his book, Beethoven The Man. “Everyone knows the incident at Kismarton, or Eisenstadt, the residence of Prince Esterhazy, on his birthday. In the middle of the first allegro of Haydn’s symphony, His Highness asked the name of the author. He was brought forward.

“‘What!’ exclaimed the Prince, ‘the music is by the blackamoor (a black Moor). Well, my fine blackamoor, henceforth thou art in my service.’

“‘What is thy name?’

“‘Joseph Haydn.’”

We have all been fed false information for reasons previously mentioned. It is no secret that scholars, writers, critics, advertisers and Hollywood have changed history for their own specific reasons. What is uniquely different in the intellectual landscape, people of color now have an army of sophisticated scholars to combat the continuation and dissemination of false information that has been accepted as standard, as well as the canon in academia.

It is hoped that the revealing of this information will motivate others to critically look at all data flowing in their brains for authenticity. Hollywood is notorious for changing facts. I am not saying to hate Hollywood, but we do have to hold it accountable for disseminating inaccurate depictions, especially when it changes the course of history, by which our children are influenced.

Graphic credits:

1.) Louis Letronne, Beethoven, 1814, pencil drawing.

2.) Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, monochrome facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne.

3.) Engraving by Blasius Hofel, Beethoven, 1814, color facsimile of engraving after a pencil drawing by Louis Letronne. This engraving was regarded in Beethoven's circle as particularly lifelike. Beethoven himself thought highly of it, and gave several copies to his friends.

©2003Kwaku Person-Lynn


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To: mainestategop
Not Out of Africa
21 posted on 11/28/2008 7:50:57 PM PST by Stentor (b. July 4, 1776 - d. January 20, 2009 sorely missed.)
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To: RegulatorCountry

Actually, I read a few days ago that Lincoln was black. In fact they listed 4 or 5 Presidents that seemed to have some black ancestors. Not stating it as fact, but the stories are out there.


22 posted on 11/28/2008 7:51:41 PM PST by SlapHappyPappy
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To: fso301

Next thing we will hear is that he is the Father of RAP noise.


23 posted on 11/28/2008 7:51:45 PM PST by celtic gal
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To: mainestategop

And so it starts.

For years, the gays have been claiming every other famous man in history was gay - now we're going to find out the other half were black.

24 posted on 11/28/2008 7:53:02 PM PST by maine-iac7 ("He has the right to criticize who has the heart to help" Lincoln)
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To: OneWingedShark; mainestategop

>It’s a form of snickering, sort of a short snicker-snort.

It actually is by definition: “It’s a form of snickering, sort of a short snicker-snort.”

http://www.answers.com/topic/snigger


25 posted on 11/28/2008 7:54:34 PM PST by max americana
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To: mainestategop

Horse. Sh*t.


26 posted on 11/28/2008 7:55:24 PM PST by Jack Hammer (here)
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To: Daffynition

LOL!


27 posted on 11/28/2008 7:55:44 PM PST by fso301
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To: max americana

I know what snicker means its just that the way it was spelled it you know it sounded like the n-word.


28 posted on 11/28/2008 7:55:53 PM PST by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: mainestategop
Who's next? Mozart? Wagner? Chopin? or Bach?


29 posted on 11/28/2008 7:56:01 PM PST by darkwing104 (Lets get dangerous)
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To: mainestategop

“his mother was a Moor, that group of Muslim Africans who conquered parts of Europe”

Beethoven was Muslim??


30 posted on 11/28/2008 7:57:40 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: darkwing104

Who knows? Maybe in 500 years 50 cent Jay-Z and BIG will be portrayed as austrian big wig composers?


31 posted on 11/28/2008 7:57:41 PM PST by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: mainestategop

Well, Jesus was black. How do I know? Well, somebody somewhere said so. Therefore it must be true.


32 posted on 11/28/2008 7:58:54 PM PST by pankot
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To: mainestategop

HAHAHA!!

A friend of mine is a linguist from another country. She is quite fascinated with taboo language and forgot that she shouldn’t say “Niggardly” here as in a quick conversation it could be misunderstood.

Snigger is a snicker under the hand, or behind your hand on your mouth.


33 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:19 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: yarddog

They was the Moops! Forget what the bubble boy told ya!


34 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:22 PM PST by Ronin
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To: mainestategop
ANY THOUGHTS?

I don't care what color the guy was but take a look at these pictures and tell me if they look anything like those in the article.

http://images.google.com/images?hl=en&q=Ludwig+van+Beethoven&btnG=Search+Images&gbv=2

35 posted on 11/28/2008 8:00:28 PM PST by Doofer
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To: autumnraine
No can't be. Islam considers Music to be haraam (unclean) and evil.Guess that can explain why the Muslim world is a stinking pile of refuse. I don't think they'll go that far.
36 posted on 11/28/2008 8:01:03 PM PST by mainestategop (MAINE: The way communism should be)
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To: maine-iac7

Beethoven was gay AND black....

You see, his “Immortal Beloved” was such a big secret b/c it was a MAN...... /s


37 posted on 11/28/2008 8:03:11 PM PST by Enchante (Countless Innocents in Mumbai, India Now Face the "Religion of Peace" in Action)
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To: mainestategop

I thought this was common knowledge. Beethoven joins other great Africans starting with Jesus Christ and going through a brief list of well known Africans such as DaVinci, Issac Newton, George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, Elvis and Bill Clinton.


38 posted on 11/28/2008 8:03:38 PM PST by Patrick1
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To: SlapHappyPappy

That’s funny because just yesterday I caught a glance of Lincoln and thought, “He looks like he has black in his ancestry”. Not in a bad way or anything, just an observation.


39 posted on 11/28/2008 8:03:57 PM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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To: maine-iac7

They’re all gay, black and muslim.


40 posted on 11/28/2008 8:06:49 PM PST by constitutiongirl (We will not go quietly into the night...we will fight to save our Republic.)
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