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20th Amendment Sct3: "if the President elect shall have failed to qualify"
Constitution of the United States ^ | January 23, 1933 | US Constitution

Posted on 12/09/2008 9:59:02 AM PST by Kevmo

Section 3. If, at the time fixed for the beginning of the term of the President, the President elect shall have died, the Vice President elect shall become President. If a President shall not have been chosen before the time fixed for the beginning of his term, or if the President elect shall have failed to qualify, then the Vice President elect shall act as President until a President shall have qualified; and the Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.


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Notice that the order of events is spelled out: if the President elect shall have failed to qualify. That means the qualification takes place AFTER the General Public votes, and even AFTER the Electoral College. It also shows explicitly that the ELECTION RESULTS ARE SUBORDINATE TO QUALIFICATION.

Further resources and copies of the constitution:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

1 posted on 12/09/2008 9:59:03 AM PST by Kevmo
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To: Kevmo

links:

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Twentieth_Amendment_to_the_United_States_Constitution

http://www.usconstitution.net/const.html

www.law.emory.edu/FEDERAL/usconst.html


2 posted on 12/09/2008 9:59:53 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: LucyT; SE Mom; Calpernia; pissant; Polarik

For your respective ping lists

Notice that the order of events is spelled out: if the President elect shall have failed to qualify. That means the qualification takes place AFTER the General Public votes, and even AFTER the Electoral College. It also shows explicitly that the ELECTION RESULTS ARE SUBORDINATE TO QUALIFICATION.


3 posted on 12/09/2008 10:01:04 AM PST by Kevmo (Palin/Hunter 2012)
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To: Kevmo

You’d think that even a bunch of ossified old pharts sitting on SCOTUS could figure this out.


4 posted on 12/09/2008 10:04:21 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Kevmo

You’d think that even a bunch of ossified old pharts sitting on SCOTUS could figure this out.


5 posted on 12/09/2008 10:09:44 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: Kevmo

If they can ignore the 20th amendment can we ignore the 16th amendment?

It gives the government to power to collect taxes via payroll with holding.


6 posted on 12/09/2008 10:12:38 AM PST by stockpirate (Left ignores Constitution except 16th amendment, can we ignore the 16th amendment?)
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To: tgusa
They know this, but after the 2000 ruling in the Presidential election, I don't think they want to touch this with a 10’ pole, regardless of its merit.
7 posted on 12/09/2008 10:13:16 AM PST by econjack (Some people are as dumb as soup.)
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To: tgusa
My fear, is that the SCOTUS will blink at the prospect of massive race riots by blacks incensed that their con artist and corrupt “bro” was denied the fruits of his crimes....

What are rational folks to think of a President elect who refused to provide and spends a fortune to deny the electorate proof of his qualifications to serve?

Of course the Birth Certificate contains SOME information he MUST conceal....for whatever reason...

8 posted on 12/09/2008 10:13:23 AM PST by river rat (Semper Fi - You may turn the other cheek, but I prefer to look into my enemy's vacant dead eyes.)
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To: Kevmo

It would go to Biden...temporarily...Then what??


9 posted on 12/09/2008 10:17:45 AM PST by Sacajaweau (I'm planting corn...Have to feed my car...)
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Unfortunately, at this point, he’s qualified.

The “people” asked the state of Hawaii if Obama was born there. They said yes. The court thinks that’s good enough. End of story.

If the Supreme Court took the case, I can guarantee you they will just ask the state of Hawaii to show them the birth certificate, and then the court will just say “looks good enough to me”, regardless of any other evidence that’s presented. There is no way they are going to believe any of the other evidence more than they will believe a government making an official statement.

No good can possibly come from pursuing it anymore, regardless of the rightness of the cause. You don’t always get to win. It is time to work on doing things that will lead to victory.


10 posted on 12/09/2008 10:19:33 AM PST by mhx
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To: Sacajaweau
"It would go to Biden...temporarily...Then what??"

Then it goes to whomever the Congress decides. My guess Hillary.

11 posted on 12/09/2008 10:20:58 AM PST by Jersey Republican Biker Chick (You cannot help the wage earner by pulling down the wage payer.)
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To: river rat

Well .... either they vote to uphold the Constitution, or they don’t. Simple as that.


12 posted on 12/09/2008 10:23:03 AM PST by tgusa (Gun control: deep breath, sight alignment, squeeze the trigger ....)
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To: stockpirate
If they can ignore the 20th amendment can we ignore the 16th amendment?

Unfortunately the 16th amendment is about what the government is allowed to do, not the people. So we can't ignore it unless we feel like getting arrested.

On the other hand, if you want to elect me to the government, I promise to not use my powers under the 16th amendment to collect taxes from anyone :-)

13 posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:18 AM PST by mhx
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To: Sacajaweau

That’s now how I read it. It looks to me like Dick Cheney becomes President temporarily, until Congress chooses a replacement.


14 posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:18 AM PST by B Knotts (ConservatismCentral.com)
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To: Kevmo

The Obama/Biden electors, because they were elected by fraud, have no standing.


15 posted on 12/09/2008 10:24:37 AM PST by bvw
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To: Kevmo; LucyT; SE Mom; Calpernia; pissant; Polarik

Great post!

That means that between the date the electors are scheduled to vote, December 15, and the date of any swearing-in, Jan 20, there is time to test O’s qualifications.

The specific date set out during that period on which to object to O’s qualification, is Jan 8. That is the date of the joint session of Congress in which the votes of the electors are to be counted. On that date, members of Congress may present specific objections based on whether O is natural born.

See 3 USC 15 on my About page for more detail and what action Americans can take.


16 posted on 12/09/2008 10:25:52 AM PST by frog in a pot (Is there a definition of "domestic enemies" as used in federal oaths, or is that just lip service?)
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To: stockpirate

The government can do whatever it wants, whenever it wants.

What little remains of fidelity to the Constitution is simply a charade to confer legitimacy upon the caprices of our rulers.


17 posted on 12/09/2008 10:30:01 AM PST by oblomov
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To: Kevmo

This is the part I don’t like - Congress picking our President.

“Congress may by law provide for the case wherein neither a President elect nor a Vice President elect shall have qualified, declaring who shall then act as President, or the manner in which one who is to act shall be selected, and such person shall act accordingly until a President or Vice President shall have qualified.”

I.E. Congress selecting one who is qualified - Hillary


18 posted on 12/09/2008 10:33:32 AM PST by rjp2005 (Lord have mercy on us)
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To: Kevmo; stockpirate; Calpernia; Fred Nerks; null and void; pissant; george76; PhilDragoo; Candor7; ..

Thank you, Kevmo.

“Notice that the order of events is spelled out: if the President elect shall have failed to qualify. That means the qualification takes place AFTER the General Public votes, and even AFTER the Electoral College. It also shows explicitly that the ELECTION RESULTS ARE SUBORDINATE TO QUALIFICATION.”

Ping.

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Thanks, stockpirate and autumnraine.

Why the media blackout on Obama’s citizenship

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2145565/posts

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#55:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145328/posts?page=55#55

Contemplate #54:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145328/posts?page=54#54

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Thanks, BP2:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145544/posts?page=161#161

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Challenging Obama’s Eligibility Only Steps from the White House

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-backroom/2145594/posts

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MHGinTN’s post #155:

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/2145500/posts?page=155#155

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On an earlier thread, autumnraine stated, “at the end it seemed Biden was trying to keep Obama from being elected.”


19 posted on 12/09/2008 10:34:14 AM PST by LucyT (...............Don't go wobbly now..............)
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To: Kevmo

Kevmo! My Birther hero!


20 posted on 12/09/2008 10:35:01 AM PST by autumnraine (Churchill: " we shall fight in the fields and in the streets, we shall never surrender")
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