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'Banned' lifeguard dog reinstated
news.bbc ^ | 28 March 2009

Posted on 03/28/2009 12:13:04 PM PDT by JoeProBono

A lifeguard dog banned from patrolling a Cornish beach because of health and safety rules is to be reinstated after hundreds of people signed a petition. Bilbo, a Newfoundland, patrolled Sennen with his lifeguard master and got round a dog ban on the beach by sitting in an all terrain bike (ATB) during patrols. However, the RNLI said passengers were not allowed on ATBs and banned him.

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TOPICS: Humor; Pets/Animals
KEYWORDS: dog; lifeguard; newfoundland
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In the past Bilbo was carried on ATBs to get round the dogs on beach ban


1 posted on 03/28/2009 12:13:04 PM PDT by JoeProBono
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To: JoeProBono

Dogs are not halal. UK going down the tubes.


2 posted on 03/28/2009 12:15:19 PM PDT by Paladin2 (Big Ears + Big Spending --> BigEarMarx, the man behind TOTUS)
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To: JoeProBono

I’ve heard of newfoundland dogs that won’t let people go in the water. They get so paranoid of people drowning that if you step in the water, they will rush in and drag you out.

Strange breed.


3 posted on 03/28/2009 12:15:20 PM PDT by mamelukesabre (Si Vis Pacem Para Bellum (If you want peace prepare for war))
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To: Paladin2

4 posted on 03/28/2009 12:18:25 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mamelukesabre

My newfie, who is asleep at my feet, is scared of the water.


5 posted on 03/28/2009 12:18:55 PM PDT by bgill
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To: mamelukesabre

Sweet,gentle and wonderful dogs and boy do they love the water. These big old bears sadly do not live long. One of the few swimming dogs strong enough to save people.

The UK is insane with their bureaucratic rules plus PC.


6 posted on 03/28/2009 12:19:31 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: mamelukesabre

My in-laws had a German Shepherd that wouldn’t let anyone go in the swimming pool. They had a habit of locking the dog in the pool enclosure when they were not home, and the dog thought it was his job. One day some kids came over to use the pool without permission and the dog grabbed the girl’s leg as she dove into the pool. Her father was a lawyer.


7 posted on 03/28/2009 12:24:02 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: Frantzie

8 posted on 03/28/2009 12:27:09 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mamelukesabre

9 posted on 03/28/2009 12:28:47 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: mamelukesabre

10 posted on 03/28/2009 12:30:00 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

Awww. They are so cute. Like big old sweet bears.

The morons complaining will not be b*tching when they are drowning and need one of these old bears coming out to save them. They are such strong swimmers. Labs are too but Newfi’s are strong enough to pull one of those floats to save a person. What great dogs.


11 posted on 03/28/2009 12:33:55 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: JoeProBono

Look at that face. More bear than dog. ;-) What a sweetie. Probably watching the water every second.

I knew someone who had 3 black Newfi’s and a big pool. They would play all day in the pool then lay down and sleep because they were exhausted. Big old bears.


12 posted on 03/28/2009 12:36:46 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: mamelukesabre

Newfies are amazing creatures!


13 posted on 03/28/2009 12:47:23 PM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (THE SECOND AMENDMENT, A MATTER OF FACT, NOT A MATTER OF OPINION)
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To: Frantzie
These big old bears sadly do not live long.

That's the bad rap on Great Danes, too. My solution to that is to try to find a somewhat smaller large breed, a Lab, for example, to cross with either a Dane or a Newf and, hopefully, get a somewhat smaller dog with a similarly great personality and a lot greater life span. Suffering a major bereavement when one of those great big, sweet dogs dies every seven or 8 years is a real bummer.

14 posted on 03/28/2009 12:49:06 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Eva; Drango
Her father was a lawyer.

Sounds like it would fall under the Attractive nuisance doctrine

Hat tip to Drango for bring this to our attention on a previous dog thread

15 posted on 03/28/2009 1:09:22 PM PDT by kanawa
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To: kanawa

Yeah, whatever they called it, they got $13,000, which in the sixties was a lot of money.


16 posted on 03/28/2009 1:16:13 PM PDT by Eva (CHANGE- the post modern euphemism for Marxist revolution.)
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To: bgill

Do they drool as much at home as what I see when they’re in public?

Always loved the breed. They’re just big ol’ teddy bears. I’ve never met a Newfie with a mean bone in his body.


17 posted on 03/28/2009 1:20:25 PM PDT by NVDave
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To: NVDave

Do they ever drool. The other day I start over 4 times before getting a form clean enough to send off because of him shaking his head and slinging muddy drool everywhere. When he gets a drink of water, most of it ends up in a trail across the kitchen floor. But he’s such a lovable teddy bear that you can’t get mad at him. They are gentle souls. He doesn’t even know how to growl unlike the terrier. The big baby has to have company with him at all times. If he wants outside, he dances around in circles until the terrier comes close enough for him to push her outside with him.


18 posted on 03/28/2009 1:34:23 PM PDT by bgill
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

All dogs are amazing. I like cats but I am more of a dog person because dogs love you no matter how bad of a day you had and if you are poor or rich.
If you need proof God loves us, pet a Dog.


19 posted on 03/28/2009 2:36:28 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Freedom- 07-04-1776-11-06-2008. RIP)
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To: libstripper

Heartbreaking. Great Danes are nice but those Newfies are such sweet and gentle doggies. A Newfie and Lab would be nice. Two of the greatest exports from Canada. Labs are really from Newfoundland but the Newfies alreayd had the name. I think early Labs were called St. Johns Dog. The British brought them to the UK.

On the big dog front I also like the great white herding dogs of Europe - Maremma aka Abruzzi dog (Italy), Kuvaz (Hungary), Great Pyrennes (France & Spain) and the Akbash (Turkey) dog. They are almost all alike and they herd and protect sheep in the mountains. Very gentle with small animals they protect but fierce defenders of sheep & goats.

They are as big as the Newfies and look as sweet but they can be very protective and fearless.


20 posted on 03/28/2009 6:41:30 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: libstripper
We have a Japanese Akita. He's something of a runt at 26” at the shoulder and 115 lbs in the winter (no exercise) and about 109 in the summer. He's 9 and going strong. We know one that lived to be 18. Our boy is on doggy NSAIDs for arthritis and the vet has wanted to put him on thyroid meds for awhile, but we aren't sure about that, yet.

He is a sweetie. He loves most people and if he senses someone is a dirtbag, he just plants himself, becomes immovable and raises his muzzle just a bit. If he advances to a growl, we know that person is not to be trusted. He is talkative, will give hugs by leaning his entire weight against you and demands his treats by dancing around in circles and shaking his head until he gets them. We love him and he is the joy of our lives.

His one drawback is that he has a very high prey drive and cannot be trusted with small dogs or other people's cats. He accepts and protects *his* cat. We also keep him away from infants. The high-pitched sounds seem to set off his prey drive. it might have been different if he had been raised with children.

I adore Newfies and Pyrenees, but the short life span, the drool and knowing he would live in the river in summer and therefore smell like it, have discouraged me. We have a large above ground pool and I am afraid a big water dog would ruin the liner and clog the filter.

The American Akitas have the same big bear head as the Newfs. We have discussed owning one of them, but we are suckers for that Northern Spitz look of the Japanese Akita. The Alaskan Husky and Malamutes are also on our favorites list. We've owned a Samoyed in the past. Her registered AKC name was Crybaby Princess and it was accurate.

21 posted on 03/29/2009 5:51:48 AM PDT by reformedliberal (N0)
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To: reformedliberal
I had to put down my dalmatian, 101,a month ago.

It has been so lonely without him.

I have had a dog in my house since I can remember.

In 6 weeks I will be getting a little yellow Labrador puppy. She was born on St Patrick's Day. Really weird but while she was being born the placenta of the mother rubbed against her fur and she has a slightly green tint to her fur.

The vet said that she will be fine, and the green tint will eventually leave.

22 posted on 03/29/2009 5:57:23 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: JoeProBono

What a face, I love it!

I don’t feel the same way about the 2 English Mastiffs next door. I find them to be scary.


23 posted on 03/29/2009 5:59:24 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Frantzie
The morons complaining will not be b*tching when they are drowning and need one of these old bears coming out to save them.

Treadwell should have hung out with Newfoundlands instead of grizzles.

24 posted on 03/29/2009 6:00:32 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: bgill
My newfie, who is asleep at my feet, is scared of the water.

In my dyslexia, I could swear I read "my newfie" as "my new wife..." lol

25 posted on 03/29/2009 6:01:55 AM PDT by Larry Lucido
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To: libstripper
My brother had a big old Chessie that he had to get rid of because he had to relocate. He uses to go swimming in the Mississippi in the middle of winter.

My sister adopted him and would take him to our local river almost every day to go swimming. What a beautiful dog he was.

26 posted on 03/29/2009 6:04:09 AM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: libstripper
I met a dog in Nevada that was a cross between a yellow Lab and a Great Pyrennese. It looked exactly like a Lab but it was as big as a Pyrenees. When I looked at him I thought my eyes were playing tricks on me.
27 posted on 03/29/2009 6:06:32 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter; All

About three years ago I actually tried to put my money where my mouth was and adopted a puppy who was identified by the Scot County, KY Humane Society as a Daneador. Unfortunately, as he’s grown up, it appears that he’s half Black Lab and half American Bull Dog, instead of being a Daneador. Nevertheless, he’s the sweetest, funniest dog in the world and I wouldn’t take any vaguely reasonable amount of money for him. When my older dog dies, I am once again going to go looking for a Daneador.


28 posted on 03/29/2009 6:15:57 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: libstripper
I don't remember a name on the big dog that I met in Nevada. I guess he would be a Labrenees.
29 posted on 03/29/2009 6:28:21 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: Ditter

The Labernese was developed by the Monteregie-based Mira Foundation, with hopes of creating a superiour guide dog for the blind, which would also be capable of assisting the physically disabled persons. The Boulab experimentation had begun as early as 1991, but it wasn't until the year 2000 that satisfying results were achieved and the official breeding programme started. The Labernois is a result of crossing the Labrador Retriever with the Bernese Mountain Dog, using only the most suitable bloodlines from Canada, America, France, England, Switzerland and Mexico. By breeding for mental soundness and reliable temperament, the developers are ensuring that the very best traits are inherited. However, due to some health problems associated with the Labrador and Bernese Mountain Dog breeds, the Mira Foundation is aware that a very careful breeding practices and selection methods are of utmost importance. It should be noted that a true Labernois is not simply a 1st generation cross and potential buyers need to know that there aren't any breeders other than the Mira Foundation. The creators of the Labernese are trying to achieve a perfect balance between its parent breeds in terms of personality and physique. Combining the trainability of the Labrador with the loving personality of the Bernese Mountain Dog, the Labernois is a friendly, obedient, devoted, calm and intelligent breed. Taller and heavier than the Lab and more lean and agile than the Bernese, this is a strong, powerful and healthy canine. The coat is thick and weatherproof, accepted in both the smooth and plush variants. The most common colouring is black, but yellow, bicolour and tricolour specimens can be found as well. The average height is around 26 inches.

30 posted on 03/29/2009 8:50:43 AM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono

I could be wrong about the Nevada dog being Lab Great Pyrenesse cross but the Lab part I am certain of. It could be this dog in your post but I do know the height was more than 26 inches at the shoulder.


31 posted on 03/29/2009 8:59:50 AM PDT by Ditter
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To: JoeProBono; AnAmericanMother; Titan Magroyne; Badeye; apackof2; Shannon; SandRat; arbooz; ...
Doggie ping!!!


32 posted on 03/31/2009 4:44:36 PM PDT by Peace4EarthNow (Want to go to Heaven? - http://www.allaboutgod.com)
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To: bgill

LOL. I love the breed.


33 posted on 03/31/2009 5:52:22 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: libstripper

Yep. I had 7 Danes in my family. Their hearts are too tiny for their bodies. Actually Danes do well in apartments.


34 posted on 03/31/2009 5:54:43 PM PDT by freekitty (Give me back my conservative vote.)
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To: mware
Nothing cuter than a little Green Lab!

It's actually quite common for the placenta to stain Yellow Labs greenish colored -- especially with the very pale, almost white Labs with the traditional buff yellow color only on the ears.

And born on St. Patrick's Day. Gonna have to name her something Irish . . . just fyi, "Dileas" (pron. JEE-less) is a very popular (Scots) Gaelic name for pups. Means 'faithful' - same as 'Fido' . . . .

35 posted on 03/31/2009 6:23:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Frantzie
Actually the Labs and Newfies were originally the "Lesser St Johns Dog" and the "Greater St Johns Dog" respectively. Neither one was from Labrador.

The last two Lesser St Johns Dogs in Newfoundland:

They were stamped out by punitive taxation and license fees because somebody thought it would be nice to raise sheep in Newfoundland. The sheep didn't work out, and they lost the original breed of Lab.

You'll still see white paws and muzzles in older Labs, and many Black Labs have a faint white spot or stripe on the chest. The old-timers say that the Black Labs with a white spot on the chest are the best hunters. My high bred little Black Lab has a very narrow stripe, only a couple of hairs wide and about 4 inches long, down the middle of her chest where the hairs ridge up.

When my Chocolate Lab was a very small puppy and boarded with my obedience trainer, she immediately figured out that the trainer's huge Newfie, Kansas, was the "go to dog" to protect small puppies when they irritated the other dogs. Shelley would tease the other dogs until they chased her -- then she would go and hide by standing under Kansas's belly fur. She completely disappeared from view, and Kansas wouldn't let any of the other dogs near her.

36 posted on 03/31/2009 6:29:46 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: JoeProBono

I love Labs, and I love Berners (in fact my older Lab is madly in love with a Berner named Rudy) but I just don’t know about all these “boutique” breeds.


37 posted on 03/31/2009 6:31:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

LOL, my parish priest has already tagged her as Patsy. I get her in 6 weeks or as soon as the vet clears her. I went to see her yesterday and she is already losing the greenish tint. She is a pretty wee thing.


38 posted on 03/31/2009 6:34:37 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: AnAmericanMother
Berner named Rudy


39 posted on 03/31/2009 6:36:05 PM PDT by JoeProBono (A closed mouth gathers no feet)
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To: JoeProBono
Shelley's Rudy is already full grown and an ENORMOUS dog. Shelley is a diminutive Lab, so when they are frolicking together it looks very funny.

Once Rudy accidentally got Shelley's entire little foxy head INSIDE his huge maw. Shelley froze and gave this little "yip!" and Rudy immediately spit her head out, "Gee, sorry about that!" and they went on playing.

40 posted on 03/31/2009 6:44:12 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: JoeProBono

Awww. Nothing cuter than a puppy.


41 posted on 03/31/2009 6:44:48 PM PDT by nomorelurker
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To: mware
Princess Patricia of the Pond? Mistress Pat?

What's the kennel name?

42 posted on 03/31/2009 6:46:17 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

Thanks. I had a yellow girl pass away a few years ago around 12 1/2. I miss her terribly.

I have seen this picture of these last two lesser St. John’s Dogs from over 100 years ago I think. I almost cry everytime I see these two old boys faces. The last of the now extinct breed. Heartbreaking. I think the Brits took them to England where they eventually became Labs.

What a cute story about your choc pup. They like to get into mischeif. The newfie Kansas was like her mommy.

The blacks are supposedly the best field dogs and possibly the smartest. the chocs are the most active. The yellows seem to make the best seeing eye/service dogs and also bomb dogs.

It is so cute and incredible that Newfies and Labs come from the same ancestry. The are both gentle old bears and love the water. Thank you for your story.


43 posted on 03/31/2009 7:13:39 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: mware

Do they ever have a day when the priest blesses all the dogs and maybe other pets? A few local churches have a day where people bring their pets and the priest or pastor blesses them.


44 posted on 03/31/2009 7:16:01 PM PDT by Frantzie (Boycott GE - they own NBC, MSNBC, CNBC & Universal. Boycott Disney - they own ABC)
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To: Frantzie
I bet you miss your girl. My oldest is 9 and I can't help thinking that we have less time together coming than we have behind us. And it IS sad to think of those two old boys standing on the pier and not knowing that they were the very last . . .

. . . their genes live on though. Every Chocolate Lab today is descended from a black dog named Banchory Bolo, who threw white paws in his offspring (actually just a white patch on the bottom of the paws, behind the big pad). And you'll still get the occasional puppy with the 'ermine' paws (white with black mottling around the toes).

45 posted on 03/31/2009 7:21:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: Frantzie
Yes, we have an annual pet blessing each year on the Feast of St Francis.

My little nephew who is too young (2 years old) yet to care for a pup of his own took his toy stuffed dog. Fr was a sweetheart and blessed it as well as all the live pets.

He also blessed one kids pet fishes that were in a fish bowl.

My priest will be given a new assignment in June so he told me as soon as I get Patsy, to bring him to the parish so he could bless her special.

46 posted on 03/31/2009 7:23:00 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Frantzie
My girls at the Blessing of the Animals on St. Francis's feast day:

That was 2 years ago when Ruby was a Very Small Pup, and when our local Radio Priest, a/k/a Fr. Crunk, was still our Parochial Vicar. He's now the assistant director of vocations for the Archdiocese.

You can see that Shelley is the World's Smallest Chocolate Lab. Only 42 pounds.

47 posted on 03/31/2009 7:25:24 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: AnAmericanMother

You are dead on about the pups coat. Except for the tint of green, she has a cream colored coat. I have seen photos of the father who is almost white. Her mother has a more yellow coat. The pups (all 12 of them) are a variety of yellows and cream colors.. Weird not one black or chocolate in the whole litter.


48 posted on 03/31/2009 7:28:07 PM PDT by mware (F-R-E-E, that spells free. Free Republic.com baby.)
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To: Frantzie
The photo is from Richard Wolter's book on the history of the Labrador.

Wolters was an old-time Lab trainer who wrote the well-known series Water Dog, Gun Dog and so forth. I don't have the history book but I need to pick up a copy. The books I have date from the 60s and 70s, when Wolters was most active in training.

The Lab history page at Lorken Retrievers says that the book was first published in 1981, and at that time the two dogs were 15 and 13.

49 posted on 03/31/2009 7:35:33 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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To: mware
Since the yellow is the recessive coat color gene, if the mother and father are both yellow it is HIGHLY unlikely that any of the pups would be black or chocolate. Each parent has to have two copies of the coat color gene "e" to 'turn off' the black or chocolate coat color. So each parent is ee . . . so the kids have to be ee also.

A black or choc pup in a yellow litter does happen occasionally, because genetics ain't mathematics . . . and also because a litter can have more than one father. But it isn't supposed to happen, strictly speaking.

Best explanation I've seen on the web: Coat color inheritance in the Labrador Retriever

My Chocolate is by a tri-factored Black sire out of a Chocolate dam. She did not get her sire's Black gene - she got the Chocolate which was masked but present in his makeup. She has a 50/50 chance of having the Yellow gene, but it of course is masked in her. She's spayed so we never had her tested for coat color genes. My Black was tested because she's still intact, and she is tri-factored as would be expected from her breeding (tri-factored sire out of a yellow dam). She can throw yellow, black, or chocolate pups depending on who she is bred to.

50 posted on 03/31/2009 7:44:19 PM PDT by AnAmericanMother (Ministrix of ye Chasse, TTGC Ladies' Auxiliary (recess appointment))
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