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Discussion of "Dreams from My Father"
1994 | Barack Obama

Posted on 04/04/2009 9:56:09 AM PDT by Remole

I have begun to read B. Obama's memoirs, "Dreams from My Father," and I am wondering what other FReepers think about it. Please post your thoughts and direct us to any published reviews.


TOPICS: Books/Literature; Education; History; Society
KEYWORDS: barack; bho44; bookreview; dreamsfrommyfather; memoir; obama; president
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I am about 100 pages into the book, and I am stunned. First of all, the prose is horrible, as the author often uses metaphors that don't correspond to the idea that he is talking about. Second, he shows himself to lack a fundamental core identity that, while interesting to a publisher, should have led the electorate to run away from him. But now we are stuck.
1 posted on 04/04/2009 9:56:09 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Remole

Sort of a low-rent “Mein Kampf.”


2 posted on 04/04/2009 10:00:44 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (~"This is what happens when you find a stranger in the Alps !"~~)
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To: Remole

I haven’t read this. But I’ll be watching this thread.


3 posted on 04/04/2009 10:00:55 AM PDT by God'sgrrl (I voted for Bush.)
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To: fieldmarshaldj

..oooohhhhhh, B U R N ! !


4 posted on 04/04/2009 10:01:22 AM PDT by norraad ("What light!">Blues Brothers)
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To: Remole

From what I understand ‘dad’ was not around enough to teach him anything.

Mom too...

Wasn’t he raised by his WHITE GRANDPARENTS???


5 posted on 04/04/2009 10:02:55 AM PDT by Mr. K (physically unable to proofreed (<---oops))
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To: Remole
PUT THE BOOK DOWN!

Slowly step back, away from the desk .... easy ..... easy ...... now,

Turn around and face me .... that's right ...

Now repeat after me ...

I ... will ... never ... touch ... that ... stuff ... again.

6 posted on 04/04/2009 10:04:12 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true ... I have no proof ... but they're true.)
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To: Remole
I am 46th on the Library waiting list. Going have to go buy that piece of garbage. His second book was dreadful. Talked about the Bible being open to translation and taking everyone's inheritance.

Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Failure

7 posted on 04/04/2009 10:04:57 AM PDT by bray (Join the Rebel Republican Movement!)
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To: Remole

I haven’t read it. I likely won’t. I will get more out of the funnies on Sunday.


8 posted on 04/04/2009 10:05:39 AM PDT by Tenacious 1 (We may officially be too stupid to govern ourselves.)
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From what I understand ‘dad’ was not around enough to teach him anything.

I guess that's why he got to dream it all up.

9 posted on 04/04/2009 10:08:40 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Remole
First of all, the prose is horrible, as the author often uses metaphors that don't correspond to the idea that he is talking about.

You should put the book down and immediately read Jack Cashill's columns on this very subject to find out who really wrote the book.

Follow the link to Cashill's recent columns page, and you will see his "Dreams" articles listed on the right. Start at the bottom and work your way up.

-PJ

11 posted on 04/04/2009 10:11:19 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (You can never overestimate the Democrats' ability to overplay their hand.)
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To: Remole

I do not believe that an absent father who abandoned his child and family, who only saw his little boy once his entire life, should be someone to be modeled after or emulated. Who cares about the “dreams of his father”? Those dreams, in reality, turned out to be a nightmare for this little boy, regardless of how he has turned out currently. From all our W.J. Clinton days, we know how easy it is for a dysfunctional, emotionally damaged man to make it into the highest office of our country. Osama/Obama is no different.


12 posted on 04/04/2009 10:12:04 AM PDT by adopt4Christ (The main thing is to keep the main thing the main thing.)
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Well you are aware that Obama's ghostwriter was William Ayers, right?

Compare:

Yavelow Study Confirms Ayers Hand In Obama's "Dreams"
http://www.cashill.com/intellect_fraud/yavelow.htm

URGENT: YOUR PRESIDENT ELECT IS ILLITERATE [Ayers probably wrote Dreams!]
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2124993/posts


13 posted on 04/04/2009 10:13:11 AM PDT by KayEyeDoubleDee
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I assume you are familiar with the critical analysis that indicates very strongly that Ayers was the ghost writer, but that Obama supplied the basic anecdotal structure. I have taught literature for 17 years, and it is common knowledge that a writer has a long history of composition before attempting his most important work. There is no evidence that Obama wrote anything. And in studying the use of words and metaphors, they come right out of Ayers’ writings. He, by the way, does have a long history of writing. And his kitchen table was known to be a place for help to new writers.


14 posted on 04/04/2009 10:13:39 AM PDT by jobim
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Pray for America, Our Troops and obama’s Failure

Here is why I hope he succeeds: he pledged to uphold, preserve, protect and defend the Constitution of the United States of America.

Here is why I hope he fails: virtually everything he has done since taking office has been rankly unconstitutional.

So. My first hope sees unattainable. My second hope is the only hope I have left.

Why don't the obazombies know that's what we mean when we broach the subject? Willful ignorance. Selective sensibilities.

15 posted on 04/04/2009 10:15:01 AM PDT by Migraine (Diversity is great... ...until it happens to YOU.)
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To: Remole

So far, I am up to the time when he is about 18 yrs old. These are the formative years of a person’s identity. Some foundational elements of the self-identity necessary for a public servant in the USA are lacking in him:

1. Acquaintance with the symbols of the USA, e.g., the pledge of allegiance, 4th of July celebrations, Memorial Day, other national holidays. I know that they are not guarantees, and it may be that he joins in them when he is older, but the lack of them in his early years must necessarily distorted his sense of belonging to the American experiment.

2. Acquaintance with the people and stories of America’s wars; clearly, by age 18 he has not met any veterans who were proud of their service, who honor the dead, and who revere their nation. The only veteran he knows is his grandfather, and he comes across as a complete buffoon.

3. Acquaintance with the components of America’s “civil religion,” such as reverence for the flag, reverence for the ballot, reverence for the Bill of Rights.

4. Acquaintance with anyone involved in any religion. Or at least, he does not admit to it. At no time does he talk about being moved by the call to prayer by the minaret, or observing his mother or grandparents praying (not even before meals), or being curious about the Christmas story.

In sum, so far, his memoirs are the story of a Nobody. An autobiography (and I have read many dozens of them, from Josephus to Marcus Aurelius to Augustine to Eric Severeid), must necessarily involve choices of what to include and what to omit; and whether it is by choice or by accident, this book shows a person who is empty inside.


16 posted on 04/04/2009 10:16:49 AM PDT by Remole
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To: jobim

Thank you for your comments. Yes, I’ve followed this thesis, and I deliberately have put it to one side and so concentrated on the person created by the memoirs.

And I, too, am confused that the media have not uncovered anything that he wrote prior to 1994. I mean, by the time I was 33, I had written enough in college, grad school, and in early years of my career such that the public would have a good idea of my writing style and my personality. And I really am a nobody!


17 posted on 04/04/2009 10:22:28 AM PDT by Remole
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To: Remole

...and this is the book that the University of Washington (my alma mater) has chosen to have all incoming freshman read...


18 posted on 04/04/2009 10:26:46 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Remole

If you start losing IQ points, I would stop reading.


19 posted on 04/04/2009 10:27:41 AM PDT by DennisR (Look around - God gives countless, indisputable clues that He does, indeed, exist.)
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To: Remole

Actually here is stuff from when he was in college that he wrote, it’s an interesting read into Obama:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2195882/posts


20 posted on 04/04/2009 10:31:05 AM PDT by Toki (The cows go moo, the ducks go quack, and I slowly go mad.)
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