FBI pedophile symbols

Wikileaks ^

[gondramB]

Summary

This visually explosive FBI document reveals the secret symbols organized pedophiles use to recognize each other and is likely to be of broad interest to readers, especially parents. Wikileaks has verified the document.

[sten]

so... best to wait until there are no witnesses. check

[Blind Eye Jones]

I wouldn’t think so. I know they are used in many cultures.

[TigersEye]

Given the FBI’s past record, how do we know they aren’t talking out of their Clymers on this one? Remember that that BS “terrorist warning signs” report in Missouri?

And their previous one in AZ in the late '90s.

[gondramB]

Turns out that was only page one

[Ellendra]

I’ve seen those rings for sale in places like Walmart. It would be easy for someone to buy one not knowing what it stood for.

[gondramB]

>>I’ve seen those rings for sale in places like Walmart. It would be easy for someone to buy one not knowing what it stood for.<<

If they looked exactly like that, Walmart might appreciate a link to the FBI document

[R. Scott]

You might have a problem.
I had a ring similar to the one shown about 30 years ago. Pedophiles don’t have a lock on the triangle design and I doubt people are asked for their pedophile bona fides when buying jewlery.

[metmom]

This is just FYI.

Does anyone know if this is valid or maybe an urban legend?

[Vaduz]

Pedophiles = gay persons

[SunkenCiv]

Uh, has anyone checked this info anywhere else?

[raccoonradio]

Though there are certainly hetero pedophiles—the female teacher who falls for a 13 yr old boy, for example. How about the NH teacher, Pam Smart, who was so infatuated with a 15 yr old male student that she got the student and his pals to murder her husband Greg?

[LibertyRocks]

I’m a survivor of child sexual abuse. If you are really interested in busting pedophiles I suggest you do not keep spreading false information like saying all pedophiles are gay people...

[MeanWestTexan]

Every mason I know is a old cowboy and would beat the sh!t out of any pedophile, dump them down an old oil well, then drop a joint of drill pipe on top of them.

[MeanWestTexan]

I don’t think that was the post. Kind of a Vehn diagram issue.

The fact that gay men have, among their ranks, a huge tendancy towards liking boys is just a fact of life.

[mountainbunny]

>p>The triangle symbols are a lot like the Celtic Triquetra (^), which is a Pagan/Irish/Celtic/Christian religious/whatever symbol; or the Triskelion (^), which existed in most early Mediterranean cultures in one form or the other and is still used everywhere from Sicily, to the US DOT's logo. A slightly more complex design would look a lot like a Greek meander (also called a Greek key).

Additionally, I have seen people wearing spirally designs to indicate a labyrinth, which is of interest to some modern people religiously - Pagans, I think.

The photos of the rings look a lot like things you can get in the silver jewelry kiosk at the mall.

So, this *may* be true, but there are so many people wearing this sort of symbolic jewelry out there, it would be hard to separate the people wearing things innocently from the predators. Which ones do you report?

Just my opinion, but the way to keep children safe is to know where they are, who they are with, and to teach them to say "no" to inappropriate advances. That, and to report specific suspicious behavior to the authorities at once.

[LibertyRocks]

I don't know how else to interpret that post, really. I mean all of us have at least taken beginning algebra, right? Two sides of the equation must balance out on both sides of the equals sign? It's not as if it's the first time I've heard this false propaganda (and definitely not the first time on FR -- I honestly don't understand that because usually FReepers aren't prone to believing this type of propaganda, but it seems when people bring up the subject of homosexuality there are those among us who are ready to believe some really outrageous things...).

Please understand, I am not saying there are no "gay" pedophiles! Just that being gay does not equal being a pedophile. And, among pedophiles -- especially PRE-pubescent pedophiles -- the sex of the child doesn't always matter. There have been many pedophiles that have been "equal opportunity", if you catch my drift.

If information like this is readily accepted as truth (the falsehood of gay=pedophile) then people will be looking in a WAY wrong direction, and we will not be able to reduce the number of children who are assaulted sexually which I know we all would like to do.

If Vaduz didn't mean to equate homosexuals with pedophilia, then he/she definitely should've put it in a different way.

I'm not "pro-gay" (I am very much against what we've come to know as the "Homosexual Agenda" -- the agenda of gay activists), but I am definitely not interested in perpetuating dangerous myths. Especially when it means that REAL pedophiles may be overlooked due to this type of misconception.

Now, I have pinged 'canaan' on this because he/she popped up on another thread I was on a while ago, and he/she shared some excellent statistics on the behavior of pedophiles, and statistics regarding the issue of homosexuals and pedophilia. It's my hope that perhaps Canaan would be available to throw those statistics up on this thread too, so people can become better educated on this topic.

Canaan, please correct me if I'm wrong, but isn't THE most common type of child sexual abuse - Male to Female Incest?

I obviously recognize that there is a problem with "under-reporting" of pedophilia due to many factors. However, with the information we do have available there doesn't seem to be any real scientific correlation whatsoever between homosexuality, and pedophilia.

Pedophiles predominantly have psychologically arrested development in the area of adult sexual relationships, and become fixated on children instead.

Also, one has to keep in mind that despite sex being involved, most pedophiles (and rapists for that matter) aren't doing it for the sexual pleasure. They are doing it for the control aspect of having power over the abused. Sex just happens to be the "tool", if you will, they are using.

In other words: Homosexuals ≠ Pedophiles

[LibertyRocks]

Agree with everything you’ve said. If I hadn’t seen this article, and saw that pretty heart pendant, for example, it’s something I might definitely consider wearing! And, I can imagine many people buying a pendant like this for their loved ones without knowing ANYTHING about the “pedophile” connotation.

I definitely agree with your suggestions on how to prevent pedophilia as well. The other thing I’d like to caution people is that the great majority of pedophiles are KNOWN, and TRUSTED by the child and their parents. So while obviously it’s important to always know where your child is, and who they are with is important, it’s also EXTREMELY important for parents to know the “signs” of abuse, and not to let their love, or friendship for the possible perpetrator blind them to these signs. Again, MANY, MANY pedophiles are FAMILY MEMBERS of the abused.

One thing I would suggest to ALL parents is to talk with their children and tell them the types of things pedophiles will say to them to scare them (Your parents don’t really love you, I will kill you if you tell, I will kill your family members if you tell, You’re just a child no-one will believe you over ME, they’ll send you to an insane asylum if you tell, etc... etc...). It’s VERY important that kids know that these are EMPTY THREATS, and are used to try to manipulate the child into protecting the abuser.

As for saying “no”. While that is good in theory, it may lead to undue shame because we know that a child saying “no” isn’t going to mean squat to a pedophile, and the child may feel they didn’t say “no” loud enough, or fight back enough when most of the time it’s not like there is anyone around to HEAR their objections.

IMHO, it’s better to just inform the children of the types of “inappropriate touch”, and make sure they know that as a CHILD it is NEVER THEIR FAULT these things happen. Understanding that TELLING on the pedophile is a MUST, is the most important thing we can help our children understand. Talk to them about the emotions they would feel if this happened (when they are old enough to understand) - shame, fear, disgust - and let them know that while it’s natural to feel that way NOT telling is much, much worse, and will make them FEEL even WORSE in the long run, than any discomfort admitting it happened may cause.

[diamond6]

Link does not work. What does it say?!

[MeanWestTexan]

I am not disagreeing with your comement that mathematics are not perfect (e.g., not “=”), nor do I believe most pedophiles are gay.

I do, however, believe that most gay men will gladly prey on young boys, generally in their young teens or tweens. That may not be the precise definition of “pedophile,” but whatever that is called, they do.

Heck, look at last week’s story of the queer reporter who got killed seeking “rough sex” with a teen boy.

[N3WBI3]

I hate to say this but on what basis could you restrain them... *maybe* if they were with a little kid but being mentally ill in and of itself is not crime..