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"Hitler's Stealth Fighter" Re-created (NatGeo TV Sunday June 28th)
National Geographic ^ | 6/25/2009 | Nat Geo

Posted on 06/26/2009 4:37:21 AM PDT by Dallas59

ON TV Hitler's Stealth Fighter airs Sunday, June 28, at 9 p.m. ET/PT on the National Geographic Channel. About the show >>

Top stealth-plane experts have re-created a radical, nearly forgotten Nazi aircraft: the Horten 2-29, a retro-futuristic fighter that arrived too late in World War II to make it into mass production. (See Hitler's stealth fighter in pictures.)

The engineers' goal was to determine whether the so-called stealth fighter was truly radar resistant. In the process, they've uncovered new clues to just how close Nazi engineers were to unleashing a jet that some say could have changed the course of the war.

To replicate the Ho 2-29 late last year for a documentary premiering Sunday, a team from the Northrop Grumman defense-contracting corporation used original Nazi blueprints (re-created blueprints of Hitler's stealth fighter) and the only surviving Ho 2-29, which has been stored in a U.S. government facility for more than 50 years.

The all-wing Ho 2-29 looked more like today's U.S. B-2 bomber (B-2 bomber picture)—or something from a Star Wars prequel—than like any other World War II aircraft. Made primarily of wood and powered by jet engines, the plane was designed for speeds of up to 600 miles an hour (970 kilometers an hour).

(Excerpt) Read more at news.nationalgeographic.com ...


TOPICS: Conspiracy; Education; History; Science
KEYWORDS: aerospace; banglist; godsgravesglyphs; hitler; jet; plane; ww2
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1 posted on 06/26/2009 4:37:22 AM PDT by Dallas59
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To: Dallas59

Germany was way ahead of it’s time...Genius mixed with tyranny and horror.


2 posted on 06/26/2009 4:44:28 AM PDT by Dallas59 ("You know the one with the big ears? He might be yours, but he ain't my president.")
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3 posted on 06/26/2009 4:44:37 AM PDT by SolidWood (Down with the islamic regime! Freedom for Iran!)
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To: Dallas59

Yes and I hear DaVinci invented the helicopter as well...
It looks to me like it had no chance of flying without a tail in the design and lake of computers to control wing surfaces in flight.


4 posted on 06/26/2009 4:45:05 AM PDT by Woodman ("The law is a funny thing")
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To: Dallas59

I suspect they would never achieved great success for the same reasons our early flying wings failed. They would have needed modern computers to make the second by second tiny adjustments that are required to keep them in the air.


5 posted on 06/26/2009 4:45:44 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Woodman
lake = lack, jees’ i need to wake up before posting.
6 posted on 06/26/2009 4:47:23 AM PDT by Woodman ("The law is a funny thing")
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To: SolidWood

Kromagg science from across the dimensions.


7 posted on 06/26/2009 4:48:00 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: Dallas59
Made primarily of wood and powered by jet engines, the plane was designed for speeds of up to 600 miles an hour (970 kilometers an hour).

I'm still shaking my head after reading that sentence.

8 posted on 06/26/2009 4:50:07 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: Woodman

I thought “lake” was used as a synonym for “a whole bunch of”. ;-)


9 posted on 06/26/2009 4:50:53 AM PDT by DuncanWaring (The Lord uses the good ones; the bad ones use the Lord.)
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To: DuncanWaring
Maybe I should just blame it on Speel khecer like usual...
10 posted on 06/26/2009 4:52:31 AM PDT by Woodman ("The law is a funny thing")
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To: Woodman
It looks to me like it had no chance of flying without a tail in the design and lake of computers to control wing surfaces in flight.

"That had been tried before and failed time and time again," Lee said. "Reimar Horten took the idea further and made it more practical than any other designer really up until the B-2."

"A Ho 2-29 prototype made a successful test flight just before Christmas 1944."
11 posted on 06/26/2009 4:53:49 AM PDT by aruanan
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The problem is that a successful test flight does not mean a successful plane and weapons platform. We also flew flying wings on successful test flights but lots of times they weren’t.

If I’m not mistaken Edwards Air Force Base is named for a pilot killed during a test flight of a flying wing design.


12 posted on 06/26/2009 5:01:20 AM PDT by cripplecreek (The poor bastards have us surrounded.)
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To: cripplecreek
Kromagg science from across the dimensions.

You, Sir or Madam, are a Trufan. And if they hadn't oiled the damn gate, the series would have ended three years earlier and a whole lot better. harumph!

13 posted on 06/26/2009 5:01:42 AM PDT by 50sDad (The Left cannot understand life is not in a test tube. Raise taxes, & jobs go away.)
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To: Dallas59
In the process, they've uncovered new clues to just how close Nazi engineers were to unleashing a jet that some say could have changed the course of the war.

Not likely. There are those little pesky details of not having any fuel, or of being able to get time to train pilots in how to fly the things, or of not having airbases not under constant attack.

It takes more to control the skies than a superior aircraft.

14 posted on 06/26/2009 5:05:05 AM PDT by Sherman Logan (Perception wins all the battles, reality wins all the wars)
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“That had been tried before and failed time and time again,” Lee said. “Reimar Horten took the idea further and made it more practical than any other designer really up until the B-2.”

Jack Northrop (if he was still alive) might dispute that comment. The B36 and YB49 must have been at least as successful as the German plane. Somewhere I have a large poster of the YB49 in flight over the California desert...

hh


15 posted on 06/26/2009 5:10:36 AM PDT by hoosier hick (Note to RINOs: We need a choice, not an echo....Barry Goldwater)
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To: Dallas59
The American military won World War II because of the massive industrial base this nation developed, starting before the Civil War. The latter war was won by the North for the same reasons. Germany also had a massive industrial base, but due to Hitler's extreme ambitions and the constant bombardment of German manufacturing plants by the Americans and the British, that base was greatly weakened by the time the so-called wonder weapons came around for mass production. As the article points out, Germany had run out of time and resources by the time these prototypes were ready.

Fast forward to 2009. American policy makers worry about rogue nations like Iran and North Korea, and radical Muslim terrorists, and rightly so. However, there is general myopia about the fact that the rogue nations and the terrorists are sponsored by China and Russia. With the shrinkage of our own industrial base for a number of reasons, I must wonder if we could sustain a massive ground and naval war like the two World Wars. Additionally, given the general dumbing down of the American populace, our long term ability to keep ahead of the Russians and the Chinese in nuclear weapons and electronic and computer technology must be questioned.

Unless these questions can be addressed successfully, America's future as a superpower is in doubt. Britain and Spain lost their superpower status due to the myopia of their leadership and misguided foreign policy. Is it our turn in this century to suffer the same fate?

16 posted on 06/26/2009 5:12:54 AM PDT by Wallace T.
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To: Woodman
As Jack Northrup found out a few years later. The thing would of been impossible to fly.
17 posted on 06/26/2009 5:13:58 AM PDT by mad_as_he$$ (Nemo me impune lacessit)
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To: SolidWood

Bump for later when I’m at home so I can swipe that picture.


18 posted on 06/26/2009 5:14:45 AM PDT by Skooz (Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us Gabba Gabba we accept you we accept you one of us)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Me 262 proved that. At its given role of bomber interception, it was fast enough and heavily-armed enough that it would be largely invulnerable to fighter escort—it could just sweep past the Mustangs and Thunderbolts, blast bombers with those four big 30mm cannon, and fly away. But there weren’t enough of them, there weren’t enough skilled pilots to fly them, and those that did see service were vulnerable during takeoff and landing from the long paved strips that they needed (and were easily spotted by Allied fighters). Plus the 262’s engines had an average life of 10 flying hours before they fell apart.

When a good pilot got a hold of an Me 262, it was a fearsome combination (witness the record of Jagdverband 44, the “air unit of the aces”). But the odds were way too stacked against Germany by that point.

I remember being able to fly the Go 229 in the old Lucasarts PC game “Secrets of the Luftwaffe,” a long time ago. They modeled it with the alleged performance figures that Horten and Gotha (the manufacturer) gave, so it really basically was a superfighter.

}:-)4


19 posted on 06/26/2009 5:15:46 AM PDT by Moose4 (Palin/some guy who can keep it in his pants 2012)
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To: Woodman; All
The Horten brothers were certainly ahead of their time and a prototype actually flew a couple of times in December 1944, and it eventually achieved a speed of nearly 500 mph (800 km/h). After about two hours of flying time, it was destroyed in a February 1945 crash that killed its test pilot.

This radio-controlled model seems to fly well enough.

Horten Ho 229 V1 (R/C Model)

20 posted on 06/26/2009 5:16:40 AM PDT by Virginia Ridgerunner (Sarah Palin is a smart missile aimed at the heart of the left!)
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