Posted on 07/21/2009 3:42:26 PM PDT by real_patriotic_american
In a quest that is seen as wacky, way out there and as bitter partisan politics by some,the issue of Obama not showing his birth certificate to prove he is a naturalized American citizen continues. Is this really just some conspiracy theory along the lines of 9/11 truthers and alien cover ups? At first glance it seems like it. But surprisingly many American’s seem to actually believe there is some possibility of truth in this claim that Obama is not a citizen. WND continues to run stories on it but most recently a congressman’s town hall meeting became overwhelmed with the issue.
Many people will immediately jump up and say “Obama produced a birth certificate, what more do you want?” Apparently Obama provided a certificate of live birth (COLB) which is not the same as a long form birth certificate. The long form birth certificate should provide evidence that can be corroborated. The COLB provided on factcheck.org does not show a hospital, doctor’s name or anything else that can be checked, just a time and city. This COLB can also be obtained by non citizens.
Obama could easily release his long form birth certificate but hasn’t. Just to stop people from talking about it and to show that he has the most transparent administration, you think he would.
Many liberals, moderates and even some conservatives will probably read this and just say “get over it already.” There is a time to let things go and personally I already have. Not because I don’t think it’s important but because I think Obama will never release this information and even if it is true that he is not a natural citizen, that nothing will change. But should people just get over this? If it is true, it is the biggest scam in history. People never got over Bush’s decision to go to war with Iraq, should everyone just forget about this issue?
The argument could easily be made that if Obama does not qualify to be president than all of the bills he signed and executive orders he issued would have to be undone. This is very important but would cause huge upheaval. I don’t know if the American people would be able to handle this kind of event and the ramifications of the loss in trust of the government. It doesn’t mean the truth shouldn’t be fully investigated though but I sincerely doubt it ever will be
And, we may not be talking about an American citizen when we refer to Obama.
ex animo
davidfarrar
I notice several of you obamanoids are feverishly working FR lately. Axelrod give you walkin' orders to deflect the rising tide demanding the affirmative action figure fraud-in-chief provide proof of Constitutional eligibility that is unimpeachable?
You said — He doesn’t have a legal right to keep it hidden now.
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Ummm..., I would say, yes, he does have a legal right to keep it hidden. To say it another way is to say, “There is no legal requirement for him to show it.”
That’s just the fact of the matter and that is what I call — “self-evident”.
It’s entirely self-evident that there is no legal requirement for Obama to show it — because if there were — all one would have to do is go to a judge, cite the law stating the legal requirement, and it would be ordered to show it...
Hence, it’s self-evident, there is no legal requirement for Obama to show it...
You have got to be joking right? He said he was eligible so that’s ok? What planet are you from?
Yeah Obama also said he never used any other names...he never lied about anything..
see post 21
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2297779/posts
You said — You have got to be joking right? He said he was eligible so that’s ok? What planet are you from?
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Ummm..., the same planet as all the other Presidential canddates who did the same thing... LOL...
The agent changed Obamas file???
Thank you MD. Great quotes!!!
You said — And, we may not be talking about an American citizen when we refer to Obama.
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Granted, he may not. Now one has to prove it — that is — prove that the legal statements he made were lies...
That’s all that has to be done.
Oh yes, that's so implausible. College coeds never get knocked up by fellow students./sarcasm
2 months after getting pregnant, she drops out of college.
Oh yes, that's really implausible. College coeds never drop out of school because they get pregnant!/sarcasm
3 months after getting pregnant, she marries BHO Sr.
Oh yes, shotgun weddings never happen. So unlikely./sarcasm
10 months AFTER her first day at the Univ of Hawaii, she gives birth to BHO II at EITHER the Queen's or Kapiolani Medical Center, and immediately LEAVES behind:
Not immediately. The quarter at the University of Washington starts in the last week of September. She gave birth on August 4th. So we're talking over a month and a half later.
a) her parents in Honolulu
Oh yes, so implausible. Teenage moms never run away from their judgemental parents./sarcasm
b) her new husband in Honolulu, and
Oh yes, so implausible. We know teenage shotgun brides never run away from their new husbands. Teenage marriages are always so stable, you know./sarcasm
... to fly ALONE with a 3-week-old newborn baby 2,800 miles to Seattle to start college at the Univ of Washington.
Sounds a lot more pluasible than a pregnant woman flying halfway around the world from Hawaii to Kenya in 1961, on a journey that would likely take a couple days, just so she can give birth under third world conditions.
Then ... Stanley Ann Dunham does not return to Hawaii until AFTER BHO Sr left the islands for Harvard, in Fall of 1962.
Ever consider the possibility that she didn't want to be anywhere near him?
True, and the whole exchange would never be aired by SRM. But sometimes acknowledging the elephant (or ass) in the room is a first step.
You are right about that HM.
A YEAR too late?
It's a shame when baseball seems to have more ethics (or some of baseball fans/v.s. voters)....
baseball barry... totus barry
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The fact the Obama will not release his original birth certificate speaks for itself. Yes, did anyone see his mother in the U.S. preceding his birth? I haven’t heard of anyone.
You wrote-
“I kept on ignoring this issue, but the more I look at it, the more I think there is something there. Even if the original records were somehow lost, where are the baby pictures, witness affidavits, etc. showing that he was born in HI? I never saw a birth certificate that didn’t show height, weight, time of birth, etc.
Most importantly, he could end this by releasing it.”
You said — They should invoke the 25th Amendment,
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I keep seeing that invoked in the TV series “24”... LOL...
But, considering who has to invoke it, it doesn’t appear to be something that those people will do...
OR prison
Wrong ST. I do not oppose presidents. I support or oppose policies and legislation. Ergo, I would still oppose his policies if he were born in the geographical center of the lower 48.
Can you imagine how the left would be whining if Obama was an ineligible Republican? It would captivate the news.
You wrote-
“I didn’t know it was that easy to change the Constitution.”
I don’t know if the American people would be able to handle this kind of event and the ramifications of the loss in trust of the government
We can and will handle the truth. We are begging God for it every day. Loss of trust in government...if you have a grain of sense, you never trust the government.
Yeah, that’s right. And the point is that there is no upside for Obama, himself, any way you look at it. So, if you’re thinking that this “credibility” thing is going to “persuade” him... I would say, think again...
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