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Hawaii tries again to snuff Barack Obama birth certificate controversy (L.A. Times)
Los Angeles Times ^ | July 28, 2009 | Andrew Malcolm

Posted on 07/28/2009 6:43:16 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american

Well, surely this will settle finally once and for all that Barack Hussein Obama was really, actually and factually born in the United States and, therefore, is fully qualified according to the U.S. Constitution to be the president that he has been since he took the oath of office on Jan. 20 and a second time shortly after, just to make sure.

Not! In yet another quite possibly futile attempt to silence the zombie birther controversy that won't die,

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To: PennsylvaniaMom

We’ll start by demanding to see Obama’s original long form birth certificate.

You wrote-
“Zombie birther controversy? Well, another slur to add to kook, tinfoiler, nut, (and the Coulter version) crank.

Its not going away, LA Times...because there is SOMETHING there being hidden. By too many people who can’t all keep their stories straight...(they ‘saw’ it last year; they destroyed all paper copies in 2001; what, we never destroy paper copies!). Somebody is lying. Who and why?”


21 posted on 07/28/2009 7:04:47 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american

There is no official statement posted on the official website of the state of Hawaii. The last statement that Fukino gave in October of 2008 IS on line. There are no details about the statement such as when it was made. There are no links to any official document. All stories on the internet are based on 1 story that “broke” late last night on 1 website by 1 reporter.

It’s a bogus story until it’s official.


22 posted on 07/28/2009 7:05:13 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: savedbygrace

I agree in more ways than one! Hey Obama, where’s your original birth certificate?

You wrote-
“Both parents must be U. S. citizens for the child to be a natural born citizen, so that statute does not apply.

He is not a NBC because his father was not a U. S. citizen. Obama might or might not be a U. S. citizen, but that is irrelevant to the issue of whether he is a natural born citizen of the U.S.”


23 posted on 07/28/2009 7:07:53 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: real_patriotic_american
I am really getting tired:

From the piece in LA Times:

In yet another quite possibly futile attempt to silence the zombie birther controversy that won't die, the director of Hawaii's State Department of Health, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, has just repeated her statement from October that she has personally and with her very own official eyes seen the "original vital records" regarding Obama's birth in Honolulu's Kapiolani Maternity and Gynecological Hospital on Aug. 4, 1961.

(my underlining)

OK, the only part of that paragraph within quotes is "vital records". However, the author certainly writes like Dr Fukino had named the hospital. Just bad writing or? (And how does the author know which hospital O was born at. It appears that not even the Obama family is certain about that.)

Here is Dr Fukino's statement as quoted by USA Today:

"I, Dr. Chiyome Fukino, director of the Hawaii State Department of Health, have seen the original vital records maintained on file by the Hawai'i State Department of Health verifying Barrack Hussein Obama was born in Hawaii and is a natural-born American citizen. I have nothing further to add to this statement or my original statement issued in October 2008 over eight months ago...."

No, no hospital mentioned.

24 posted on 07/28/2009 7:07:55 AM PDT by ScaniaBoy (Part of the Right Wing Research & Attack Machine)
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To: CodeToad

That too. :-)


25 posted on 07/28/2009 7:09:55 AM PDT by truthkeeper ("Why oh why didn't I take the blue pill?")
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To: EnglishOnly
"They won't show it because BHO has something to hide."

Maybe his birth certificate can be found in the living breathing US Constitution.... right below the "right to an abortion" clause.

27 posted on 07/28/2009 7:12:49 AM PDT by GregoTX (The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing.)
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To: real_patriotic_american

Okay why doesn’t the Health Department just display the original birth certificate? They keep telling everybody that Obama was born in Hawaii so what’s the hold up on showing the birth certificate. That would put an end to all of the birther arguments. Something still doesn’t smell right.


28 posted on 07/28/2009 7:13:04 AM PDT by Texasrocker
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To: real_patriotic_american

You should add:

Social Security: 35+ SSNs issued in his name.


29 posted on 07/28/2009 7:15:33 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Palin shrugged.)
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Dr. Taitz has mentioned it; so Lou Dobbs, Rush, a few need to veer (slightly) from the CertifiGate...and expand upon Dr. Taitz findings of the MULTIPLE Social Security numbers.

Could fraud...simple identity theft...be the reason for the double, triple top secret handling of the BC (because it leads the paper trail to the college transcripts—the period of time those ‘extra’ id numbers could have come in handy)?


31 posted on 07/28/2009 7:21:46 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Watch it...I'm 'cranky' but still RIGHT! Show the Birth Certificate (even Little Leaguers have to!))
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

Update to/from PaMom...add National Review to the list of those dissing the Birthers...but they only called us ‘misguided.’

All this smoke coming from no fire? I don’t think so.


32 posted on 07/28/2009 7:25:55 AM PDT by PennsylvaniaMom (Watch it...I'm 'cranky' but still RIGHT! Show the Birth Certificate (even Little Leaguers have to!))
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To: Texasrocker

2 things of interest from another thread.

Someone posted that Stanley would have wanted Barry to be an American Citizen. If his father might have negated this (not a US citizen), Stanley may have signed a hospital form that indicated the father was “UNKNOWN”.

After viewing a 1963 LF/BC on the same thread, the mother and father have entries for “Race”. With the mother a Caucasian and the father unknown, Barry would have been classed as a Caucasian (damaging!) in subsequent official documents (school, medical, etc.).

Finally, if the LF/BC has “unknown” for the father, his book “Dreams..” becomes a point of suspicion.


33 posted on 07/28/2009 7:28:11 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Palin shrugged.)
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To: PennsylvaniaMom

And the obviously altered Selective Service registration.


34 posted on 07/28/2009 7:29:02 AM PDT by Cletus.D.Yokel (Palin shrugged.)
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To: Abbeville Conservative
There is this link from one of the Hawaii newspapers: http://www.starbulletin.com/news/20090728_us_house_on_record_in_birth_flap.html

That story didn't exist until the 1 reporter from the 1 newspaper website reported it. So far *EVERY* single news story about this is the result of 1 story by 1 reporter with no official statement by Fukino anywhere to be found on any official state of Hawaii website.

35 posted on 07/28/2009 7:33:06 AM PDT by DouglasKC
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

“Social Security: 35+ SSNs issued in his name.”

Is there a published list of those SSNs?


36 posted on 07/28/2009 7:35:01 AM PDT by CodeToad (If it weren't for physics and law enforcement I'd be unstoppable!)
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To: Bon mots

... and Obama’s appears to be forged!

You wrote-
“Did you know? Obama’s half sister, born in Indonesia, has a Hawaiian Certification of Live Birth (COLB) just like Obama’s?”


37 posted on 07/28/2009 7:36:02 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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To: Cletus.D.Yokel

Can you link any info about that one? I’ve seen it floating around.


38 posted on 07/28/2009 7:38:02 AM PDT by Sir Gawain ("Scalp dem and hang dem up high" - Super Cat)
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To: real_patriotic_american

“You miserable freepers should understand that the birth certificate previously supplied by President Obama’s supporters may have been fake, but it was completely accurate.”
Dan Rather, WWHO radio
Frostbite Falls, North Dakota


39 posted on 07/28/2009 7:39:58 AM PDT by tumblindice (A Democrat's winning riposte in debate: "You're stupid.")
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To: y6162

Wait until Obama gets to prison- it will make more money (lol).

You wrote-
“I think a made for TV movie is appropriate entitled ‘The Kenyan Imposter”. Wonder if Oliver Stone would be interested?”


40 posted on 07/28/2009 7:40:02 AM PDT by real_patriotic_american
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