Hawaiian Officials Under Duress?

Vanity

[MissTickly]

This is in follow-up to my post on Tuesday: "The Day I asked a question and got the MOTHER of all answers"

The implications of the following account is that the President's REAL NAME did not appear on any ballot, in any state.

That's just one of MANY implications. Let me preface by saying an AMENDED birth record could indicate that the President was adopted by either Lolo Soetoro and/or His grandparents, the Dunhams.

My story:

I have serious reasons to believe that Janice Okubo and/or Director Fukino, Department of Health in Hawaii are under duress. Something is preventing Director Fukino from making statements that she has the statutory authority to make.

And my story coincides with the recent revelation that the President is a Natural Born Citizen and born in Hawaii, all along.

On Monday, on a whim I decided to try my hand at a question for Ms. Okubo, Communications Director for the Department that holds the President’s vital records.

In a nutshell, this is what I asked her:

–Ms. Okubo–

If the Director made this statement:

““Therefore, I as Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has Sen. Obama’s original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures… ”

…she has the statutory authority to answer this question:

“Is the Director of Health for the State of Hawai’i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, able to state they have verified that the Hawai’i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures?”

Please reply with her answer.

–

You see, they have the same statutory authority over an Amended Original Birth Certificate that they have over an (unamended) Original Birth Certificate.

No one has to attest to an Amended Original Birth Certificate’s existence. By virtue of STATUTORY AUTHORITY she can make this statement, AND she clearly says so.

But, to my surprise, at 11:47 p.m. on Monday, July 27, 2009 I got the press release in answer to my question with the recent revelations and now the words ‘VITAL RECORDS’ are referenced.

Now, taken at face value, the press release seems to affirm the question I asked, but I wanted clarity. So I asked specifically if the Director could make a statement that she has the STATUTORY AUTHORITY TO MAKE:

“As Director of Health for the State of Hawai‘i, along with the Registrar of Vital Statistics who has statutory authority to oversee and maintain these type of vital records, I have personally seen and verified that the Hawai‘i State Department of Health has President Barack Obama’s AMENDED original birth certificate on record in accordance with state policies and procedures.”

But I got this in return: “The director has nothing further to add to her statements.”

More than once. I even asked if she can make the statement if she was compelled to. Nothing.

I let Ms. Okubo know that I fear something is preventing them from making statements they have the authority to make. And told her I was compelled to tell someone.

Not that anyone will care, but I have alerted the media in detail.

I have the emails to corroborate.

I am VERY concerned.

[Smokeyblue]

Yeah, I didn’t think the signatures were forged. I just meant that it looks like each person signed again and it wasn’t a rubber stamp signature.

[Smokeyblue]

“It seems pretty clear that ‘someone’ advised
a do over, and it was prepared with new text.”

Yep. It’s not like they whited out a sentence. They completed a new form with different text.

[MHGinTN]

Zip it. The thread and the actions MissTickly has taken instantly refute your assertion. How snarky of you.

[penelopesire]

WOW!! They were both sworn out and signed the same day. What is going on with the democrat party? Do a few select know the truth and are getting nervous now? Remember..Nazi Pelosi did not sign that stupid resolution in the house about Obama’s ‘Hawaii birth’ either.

[STARWISE]

“It seems pretty clear that ‘someone’ advised
a do over, and it was prepared with new text.”

~~~

Let me correct that. It’s NOT clear .. I
have no clue if or what the reason or who did
it, but all I can clearly see is that the text
WAS changed.

That leaves me wondering.

[STARWISE]

She didn’t? Hmmm ...

[MHGinTN]

The lower court from which the Perkins v Elg case made it to the SCOTUS actually used the term natural born citizen for Miss. Elg, but the SCOTUS noted that an specifically refused to acknowledge that faulty assertion when they made their final runling. Interestingly, both the phrase native born and natural born show up in the ruling, but the Court chose to not use either in making a final ruling, resorting instead to simply 'American citizenship'.

[[ Fifth. The cross-petition of Miss Elg, upon which certiorari was granted in No. 455, is addressed to the part of the decree below which dismissed the bill of complaint as against the Secretary of State. The dismissal was upon the ground that the court would not undertake by mandamus to compel the issuance of a passport or control by means of a declaratory judgment the discretion of the Secretary of State. But the Secretary of State, according to the allegation of the bill of complaint, had refused to issue a passport to Miss Elg "solely on the ground that she had lost her native born American citizenship." The court below, properly recognizing the existence of an actual controversy with the defendants

Page 307 U. S. 350

(Aetna Life Ins. Co. v. Haworth, 300 U. S. 227), declared Miss Elg "to be a natural born citizen of the United States," and we think that the decree should include the Secretary of State as well as the other defendants. The decree in that sense would in no way interfere with the exercise of the Secretary's discretion with respect to the issue of a passport, but would simply preclude the denial of a passport on the sole ground that Miss Elg had lost her American citizenship. ]]

[penelopesire]

Nope..doesn’t look like it.

http://clerk.house.gov/evs/2009/roll647.xml

[STARWISE]

She’s not on either list ?

[Triple]

please post a thread on these 2 images and their content differences.

Regards,

3

[penelopesire]

Nope..which is odd. She is probably hoping no-one notices...lol.

[MissTickly]

“Seems to me that Misstickly also cares about the natural born citizen issue. “

Thank you this was greatly appreciated.

[MissTickly]

I do care a lot about Women’s Issues because my I have two very personal experiences in my immediate family of rape.

I think it’s urgent that we talk about women’s issues and gender inequality and address them. The treatment of Sarah Palin is a perfect example of the urgency. So, perhaps one day, I won’t find my future granddaughter in this situation.

Nothing changes for women, it’s always a cycle—and each time around it doesn’t get easier.

I have to weigh in other things when I cast vote, but I tend to place women’s issues pretty high.

If I don’t fight for women and ask that you fight with me, who will fight for us? How are we as women, empowered?

I believe in equality, nothing more.

[STARWISE]

She probably could’ve cared less about that,
dealing with wrestling and roping in any Blue Dogs
for obamacare she could collar, making them offers
they couldn’t refuse.

[MissTickly]

This is crazy stuff! Keep digging!

[penelopesire]

Perhaps..Like someone said the other day:

‘Nancy...The Dog Whisperer’

LOL! I thought they were required to be accounted for on every vote, but I could be wrong.

[Fred Nerks]

Great find! To my untrained eye, it appears the signatures have been overwritten. Why? I can only guess it may be because an over-written signature is a poor attempt at hiding the fact that the document previously signed, was a photo-copied.

Then, the wording was changed. And photo-copied again. By that time the signatures would have faded...

Please make a post of these two documents. It’s a stunning find.

[rolling_stone]

I see this has been discussed before, some SOS require the eligibility clause and some didn’t...anyway why not just have one for all ?

[rolling_stone]

Here is discussion of Hawaii with the clause

http://itooktheredpill.wordpress.com/2009/01/05/ok-speaker-pelosi-how-did-the-dnc-certify-obamas-eligibility/

[real_patriotic_american]

His grandmother, Madelyn Dunham, did have a copy of Barack Obama’s birth certificate.

“I discovered this article, folded away among my birth certificate and old vaccination forms, when I was in high school. It’s a short piece, with a photograph of him. No mention is made of my mother or me, and I’m left to wonder whether the omission was intentional on my father’s part, in anticipation of his long departure. Perhaps the reporter failed to ask personal questions, intimidated by my father’s imperious manner; or perhaps it was an editorial decision, not part of the simple story that they were looking for. I wonder, too, whether the omission caused a fight between my parents.”

From “Dreams From My Father” (Pg. 26 last paragraph)