Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

The Man-Made Peanut Allergy Epidemic, A revealing history of a medical mystery
Fraser Horne ^ | Heather Fraser

Posted on 10/18/2009 7:34:55 PM PDT by Coleus

It is seldom recognized, commented historian René Dubos, that each society and every civilization creates its own diseases.1 Is the peanut allergy epidemic man-made? And if so, how has it been created in millions of children in just 20 years and who or what are its architects? The features of the epidemic continue to puzzle doctors.

In the US alone, 5.6 million people – 2% of the population – are allergic topeanuts and nuts almost all having experienced onset as toddlers. This epidemic tipped into critical mass around 1998 when the first flood of allergic children entered kindergarten sending a shock through education systems. Prevalence of the allergy increases with parental income, education and accessible health care. It does not increase with consumption. In developing countries where peanut consumption is high, the allergy is virtually unknown. In the west, children who have never eaten a peanut experience reactions on initial exposure to the food.

Immunologists claim that this allergy is an immune system abnormality. This view is contrary to that of Dr. Charles Richet, who identified and named the condition anaphylaxis in 1901. Richet proved that anaphylaxis is an inevitable side effect of vaccination. It is a universal reaction of animals to any protein injected into the bloodstream – the first injection sensitizes, the second injection or subsequent consumption of the protein unleashes the life threatening reaction.

Since Richet’s Nobel Prize winning research, doctors have known “how to” create anaphylaxis using a needle. Without the invention of the convenient hypodermic needle in 1853, anaphylaxis would not have gained common currency much less become epidemic. The needle allowed doctors to deliver substances directly into the blood, by-passing the modifying effects of the digestive system. And with the introduction of compulsory vaccination for diphtheria in 1895, anaphylaxis arrived en mass. Thousands of children were made ill or died from what doctors labeled “serum sickness”. By 1906, the sickness was understood to be a systemic allergic reaction. Extreme sickness was characterized by anaphylaxis, swelling, shock, asphyxia and death.

Serum sickness was the first man-made mass allergic phenomenon. The historical link between vaccination and mass allergy is rarely mentioned by doctors. Health officials have several rational arguments for not discussing the subject. One is that US Vaccine Injury Compensation Program guidelines make it impossible to prove a causal link between vaccination and a later “onset” of anaphylaxis – that is, when the toddler first eats peanut butter. The guidelines only recognize anaphylaxis that occurs shortly after injection.

The second argument was summarized by Richet himself who wrote that anaphylaxis “perhaps a sorry matter for the individual, is necessary to the species ….There is something more important than the salvation of the person and that is integral preservation of the race..2

And that “something” was protecting the whole of society from disease by vaccination – a goal that justifies the unavoidable casualties. A third rationalization is economic. Vaccine consumers absorb the cost of damage. Therefore, it makes financial sense to ignore the problem – which can’t be proven anyway. And if litigation brought by angry parents becomes unwieldy, government will intercede with legislation to protect them as it did in 2001 and again in 2008 in the wake of a leaked report that the mercury-based vaccine preservative Thimerosol, was contributing to the massive rise in childhood autism.3 4

The framework for disease management with the needle began as business-minded makers of pharmaceuticals well over 100 years ago met the demands of government and doctors faced with massive immigrant influx during the first industrial revolution. Competition between pharmaceutical companies fed a media soon reliant upon lucrative and unregulated medical ads. In the early 20th century, a meld of compulsory vaccination for military and civilian populations and persuasive ads quickly transformed patients into medical consumers.

Consumers more afraid of disease than the side effects of treatment embraced the tradition of vaccination. For vaccine makers, however, unwanted side effects were balanced with the cost of production. They no longer used horse blood or mouse brain – the former was implicated in serum sickness and the latter was known to create encephalitis. However, an irreplaceable ingredient was vegetable oil. While cost effective and potent, oils could also be dangerous -- they easily over stimulated the immune system.

Lulled perhaps by medical advance, officials were surprised by the second mass allergic phenomenon that began in the 1930s. This was the first outbreak of food anaphylaxis in history and it was caused by just one food: cottonseed oil. Refined cottonseed oil was a primary excipient in the injected “wonder drug” antibiotics and in vaccines.

Well documented issues had weakened the US seed crusher industry which with dropping standards was producing contaminated oils. Protein laden cottonseed oil was found to have been distributed to pharmaceutical and food manufacturers.

The outbreak might have been investigated more thoroughly if it hadn’t ended so soon. Prevalence of the allergy peaked in the late 1940s, gradually declined and then fell from the medical journals, history and memory. This decline may be attributed to a change in vaccine ingredients. After WWII, oil from cottonseed was replaced.

This replacement oil was inexpensive, tariff protected, US grown and controlled tightly by a more reliable industry infrastructure; it came from peanuts. Manufacturers improved their refining processes to remove as much of the protein as possible (although not all according to a 2008 FDA report) thus preventing now well understood allergic implications. With trace peanut protein in some vaccines, the allergy built a profile very quietly in the 1950s but grew more noticeable through the late 1960s and early 70s. The first peanut allergy study in 1974 by S.A. Bock in the US identified its growing prevalence.

Vaccine innovations in this period included genetic modifications of proteins, manipulation of molecular weights to target specific antigens and the inclusion of an “adjuvant”. An adjuvant provokes the immune system to create antibodies while requiring less antigen (virus/bacteria). Adjuvant 65, dubbed the immunologists “dirty secret” increased antibody production 13 fold although no one knew exactly why or how. This useful, cost effective “black box” ingredient combined refined peanut oil with aluminum. It was added to childhood vaccines in the 1960s.

Two further changes to childhood vaccines were the introduction of the influenza Hib B in 1988 that was eventually rolled into an unprecedented 5 vaccines in one needle, the PENTA. Neither parents nor family doctors questioned these changes authorized by a WHO expert committee and recommended to governments in western countries. In the documented rush to pull this formula together, it seemed to escape notice that the molecular weights of proteins in the Hib B were almost identical to those in peanut. Peanut allergy tipped quietly into epidemic between 1987 and 1994. ER records in westernized countries revealed the tip of the iceberg in the early 1990s – 90% of all admissions for allergy were for peanut. The allergy hit critical mass around 1998. The tipping point came when the first massive wave of food allergic children entered the public school systems at ages 4 and 5.

Pre-school and kindergarten teachers and principals were taken by surprise5 at the sudden appearance of not one but several food allergic kids in each school, hundreds in each school board, thousands across the US, the UK, Canada and other western countries.

Allergy researchers frantic for an answer to this deadly phenomenon questioned the role skin creams with poorly refined peanut oil, levels of peanut consumption, methods of peanut preparation. They examined long-shot risk factors such as birth month, blood type, gender and race. None pointed to vaccination, a common childhood event with a proven history of creating mass anaphylaxis.

It is not without irony that in virtually every medical article on the allergy mice are made anaphylactic to peanut by injection. If vaccination is the functional mechanism by which millions of children have been sensitized to peanut why isn’t every child allergic? One researcher pointed out in 2004 that “Adjuvant 65 offers the advantage over mineral oil used in [other adjuvants] that it can be metabolized”.

“Metabolized” means that the body can break down and eliminate the waste vaccine. This ability to detoxify varies between individuals and is today an enormous challenge for western children increasingly weakened by digestive imbalance. And even if one does not accept the Injection Hypothesis, the balance between fear of disease and risk of side effects has clearly shifted. Educated parents for whom official rationalizations now ring hollow are beginning to refuse vaccination.

In the wake of the Thimerosol debacle in 2000 and the ongoing celebrity endorsed media campaign (generationrescue.org) which insists that vaccination causes autism, vaccine makers have been quietly phasing out the use of mercury in vaccines used in the west.

Stocked batches of these vaccines have been shipped to China and other Asian and African countries where they have been administered to children, populations of new medical consumers. In China, where peanut consumption is high, the allergy was virtually unknown in 2001.6 Recent studies in 2008 and 2009 indicate that peanut allergy is on the rise in Chinese and Singaporean children.7

Heather A. Fraser Toronto, Ontario info@fraserhorne.com 416-466-0303

1 Reneé Dubos, The Dreams of Reason: Science and Utopias (New York, 1961) p. 71.

2 Charles Richet, “Acceptance Lecture”, Nobel Prize for Medicine, 1913.

3 Defense of vaccine damage is explicit in the transcript of famed 2000 Simpsonwood conference in which 48 government bodies and vaccine makers discuss a report linking mercury in vaccines to autism. This transcript was reviewed by R.F. Kennedy Jr., “Deadly Immunity,” Rolling Stone Magazine (June 20, 2005).

4 Anon, “The Man Behind the Vaccine Mystery”, CBS Evening News, Washington, Dec. 12, 2002. www.cbsnews.com In a post 9-11 world, Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist stated, vaccine makers must be free from lawsuits so that they can protect Americans from bio-terrorist attacks.

5 Wendy Harris, “Abnormal Response to Normal Things,” Professionally Speaking Magazine, Ontario College of Teachers, Sept. 2000.

6 K. Beyer K, et al. “Effects of cooking methods on peanut allergenicity,” J Allergy Clin Immunol. 2001 Jun;107(6):1077-81.

7 Europrevall.org and Chiang Wen Chin, “Food Allergy in Singapore,” SingHealth.com (2009)


TOPICS: Food; Health/Medicine; Science
KEYWORDS: allergy; choosymomschoosejif; food; health; heatherfraser; jif; medicine; pb; pbj; peanut; peanutallergy; peanutbutterandjelly; peanuts; skippy; thimerosol; vaccination; vaccinations; vaccines
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-84 next last

1 posted on 10/18/2009 7:34:56 PM PDT by Coleus
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Bump for later


2 posted on 10/18/2009 7:41:29 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

“...and again in 2008 in the wake of a leaked report that the mercury-based vaccine preservative Thimerosol, was contributing to the massive rise in childhood autism.”

This is not true. A lie repeated a bunch of times is still a lie.


3 posted on 10/18/2009 7:41:53 PM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus; Mother Abigail; RandallFlagg; Smokin' Joe; Judith Anne; neverdem; EBH; vetvetdoug; ...

Makes you go hmmmmmmm. Ping.


4 posted on 10/18/2009 7:45:49 PM PDT by null and void (We are now in day 269 of our national holiday from reality. - 0bama really isn't one of US.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy
Bump for later

Ditto.

5 posted on 10/18/2009 7:47:05 PM PDT by Sans-Culotte
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

D*mn “Carter Berries”!

;-)


6 posted on 10/18/2009 7:48:02 PM PDT by GladesGuru (In a society predicated upon freedom, it is essential to examine principles,)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

pongo me


7 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:12 PM PDT by razorback-bert (We used to call them astronomical numbers. Now we should call them economical numbers.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ex-Texan

ping......


8 posted on 10/18/2009 7:49:26 PM PDT by DvdMom (Freeper Smokin' Joe does the freeper Avian / H1N1 Ping List)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

Is Aborted Fetal DNA in Vaccines Linked to Autism?


9 posted on 10/18/2009 7:50:37 PM PDT by Coleus (Abortion, Euthanasia & FOCA - - don't Obama and the Democrats just kill ya!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Is this another one of those tinfoil hat vaccine conspiracy nutballs?

Because we all know TB, whooping cough, measles, rubella, etc. are much much better than them suspicious gummit-run needle thingies.


10 posted on 10/18/2009 7:57:26 PM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: presently no screen name

mark


11 posted on 10/18/2009 8:00:11 PM PDT by presently no screen name
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

There was allergy and anaphylaxis prior to 1901 (the 1901 experiment that named anaphylaxis involved injecting dogs with sea nettle venom). That was when someone wrote it up, but that does not mean it started then any more than the “ozone hole” was “created” in 1973.

It’s pretty rare, and did not seem to become prevalent until there was a growing sense of entitlement in the USA helped by lawyers. Parents forcing schools to become peanut-free made the news and the concept spread, so there was a need to track prevalence in the population.

BTW the first report of human death by anaphylaxis involved green beans, not peanut. Anaphylactic death from insect stings certainly happened prior to 1901.


12 posted on 10/18/2009 8:01:55 PM PDT by DBrow (Thank You Al Gore You Saved Earth!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
"it seemed to escape notice that the molecular weights of proteins in the Hib B were almost identical to those in peanut"

What in the world have the molecular weights to do with anything? It's the proteins' structure that determines reactions, not their weights.

I mean, carbon monoxide has the same molecular weight as nitrogen, but if the atmosphere we breathed was 78% carbon monoxide, we'd be really really dead.

13 posted on 10/18/2009 8:33:34 PM PDT by heartwood
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Bump for later


14 posted on 10/18/2009 8:34:59 PM PDT by wrench
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

bump for later


15 posted on 10/18/2009 8:36:46 PM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal NFL doesn't think Rush is good enough for them? They feel the same about us...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Mark


16 posted on 10/18/2009 8:37:47 PM PDT by sport
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

This is nutty.


17 posted on 10/18/2009 8:43:24 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: heartwood

I don’t think it’s appropriate to bring up scientific points on a thread of this nature.


18 posted on 10/18/2009 8:45:14 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Coleus; All; Quix
Look at the current herd of Czars, advisors, and intellectual inspirational characters of this coup administration. Determine the common subtext and pattern of their underlying motivations.

Is it to increase the number of human beings who thrive on this blessed planet, and to increase the resources available to them and their progeny so that they may awake every morning and express genuine thanks to their Creator for their bounty?

Or is it to decrease the number of human beings, period, so that a healthy ruling class can emerge unscathed from a parched and barren landscape of dying and diseased paupers who question, every night, the reason for waking up in the morning except to receieve crumbs from their masters ample table?

Juss askin'...


Frowning takes 68 muscles.
Smiling takes 6.
Pulling this trigger takes 2.
I'm lazy.

19 posted on 10/18/2009 8:45:14 PM PDT by The Comedian (Evil can only succeed if good men don't point at it and laugh.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

More from the anti vaccination kooks. Albeit thinly disguised.


20 posted on 10/18/2009 9:04:06 PM PDT by Nik Naym (I remember when the United States was a free country. I feel old.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Flightdeck
I wonder if this is another one of those "Fenton Communications" - generated scares like the alar and apples scare and the the dairy hormone scare.

1989 : (ALAR SCARE -- See FENTON COMMUNICATIONS, NRDC, WWW) One of Fenton's most publicized achievements was his 1989 attack against the producers of Alar, a preservative used in apples that he  erroneously reported as carcinogenic. The misinformation Fenton fed to the news media triggered mass hysteria and caused the apple industry to lose over $200 million in revenue. Later, in a memo uncovered by the Wall Street Journal, Fenton bragged, "We designed [the campaign against Alar] so that revenue would flow back to the Natural Resources Defense Council from the public." The Natural Resources Defense Council was another of Fenton's primary clients.  --------This profile [of David Fenton] was adapted from the article titled "Peaceful Tomorrows, Leftists Todays," written by Thomas Ryan and published by FrontPageMagazine.com on March 17, 2004.

1989 : (DAIRY INDUSTRY HORMONE SCARE-- See FENTON COMMUNICATIONS, BEN & JERRY'S) Since 1989, Fenton and his company, Fenton Communications, has been largely preoccupied with creating media strategies for left-wing groups, including one of his primary clients, Environmental Media Services. Its anti-biogenetic message, which claims that genetically engineered foods are dangerous to eat, has made millions of dollars for Fenton's clients, which include such health food producers as: Whole Foods Markets, Honest Tea, Kashi Cereal, Green Mountain Coffee, and Rodale Press, a magazine publisher of periodicals concerning organic gardening and foods.
This approach has also worked for ice cream producers Ben & Jerry's, another client of Fenton's. Starting with a series of press conferences in the late 1990s, Environmental Media Services promoted the idea that a hormone given to dairy cows to produce milk could cause cancer, despite the fact that the FDA had shown the hormone to be safe. Ben & Jerry's ice cream stood to gain from the bad press aimed at the dairy industry because their ice cream is made with hormone-free milk. --------This profile [of David Fenton] was adapted from the article titled "Peaceful Tomorrows, Leftists Todays," written by Thomas Ryan and published by FrontPageMagazine.com on March 17, 2004.

And more recently :

JUNE 2009 : (STATS REPORT ON BPA FEARMONGERING----- See FENTON COMMUNICATIONS {See DAVID FENTON [See WEATHER UNDERGROUND, SANDINISTAS, MPLA, GRENADA'S MAURICE BISHOP, FMLN, WHITE PANTHERS, MOVEON.ORG, HEINZ FOUNDATION, PEACEFUL TOMORROWS, ... ]}) Last month [June] , the Statistical Assessment Service (STATS), a nonprofit, nonpartisan research organization affiliated with George Mason University, released "Science Suppressed: How America became obsessed with BPA," a report which accuses the media "of ignoring the extensive research of respected scientists and major health agencies in the United States and around the world, which found BPA was not only safe but played an important role in ensuring food safety."   It also confirms what countless previous studies have said; BPA is safe.
If you're unfamiliar with Bisphenol A (BPA), it is a chemical used to make lightweight, versatile, durable, high-performance plastics.  It's also one of the most extensively tested products in the world.  For example, as  Norris Alderson, the FDA's associate commissioner for science, said just last year, "a large body of available evidence" demonstrates that products made with it are safe. 
And as recently as July 15 of this year, a regulatory board in the liberal state of California, composed of seven physicians, unanimously voted that "BPA should not be covered under Proposition 65, a voter-approved measure used by regulators to identify substances that can cause birth defects, developmental or reproductive harm."
Don't trust America?  The latest research by Health Canada (essentially, their FDA), demonstrated that you would have to drink 1000 liters of bottled water a day -- an amount that is literally impossible -- in order to approach the amount they deem to be the "tolerable daily intake" for the chemical bisphenol A.
Despite countless studies demonstrating that BPA is safe, reporters, environmentalists, and liberal politicians continue to make hay out of this political issue...So why is this witch hunt happening?
Until recently, this appeared to be nothing more than a typical attempt by liberals to go after business and manufacturing.  But as several bloggers have recently pointed out, there appears to be a more sinister motive.  You see, the radical environmental groups who fundraise off of this issue, the trial lawyers who line their pockets with class action lawsuits against BPA manufactuers, and the Democratic politicians who score political points by attacking BPA all have one thing in common:  They all share the same PR guru -- David Fenton.
If the name David Fenton of Fenton Communications sounds familiar, it may be because he's the guy who invented the 'General Betray Us' ad campaign that MoveOn.org used to attack General Petreaus.
As North Dakota blogger Rob Port of the Say Anything Blog recently wrote, the one common denominator that all the anti-BPA forces share is Fenton Communications...----"Ken Blackwell: A Chemical Scare Campaign Is Good Business for Some," American Thinker ^ | July 23, 2009 | Ken Blackwell

21 posted on 10/18/2009 9:08:03 PM PDT by piasa (Attitude adjustments offered here free of charge)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

This is certainly an interesting hypothesis. There was definitely an explosion in the number of people with peanut allergies in the decade cited in the article.

Let’s hope the trial lawyers don’t get any ideas.


22 posted on 10/18/2009 9:28:12 PM PDT by Darnright (There can never be a complete confidence in a power which is excessive. - Tacitus)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: The Comedian

NO DOUBT

is there.


23 posted on 10/18/2009 9:52:33 PM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 19 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003
TB

There is a vaccine for TB???

24 posted on 10/18/2009 10:15:28 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: 2ndreconmarine; Fitzcarraldo; Covenantor; Mother Abigail; EBH; Dog Gone; ...

Ping....(Thanks, nully!)


25 posted on 10/18/2009 10:18:33 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Thanks for the ping!


26 posted on 10/18/2009 10:43:06 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: heartwood
What in the world have the molecular weights to do with anything?

It's quite helpful in convincing uneducated morons on urban juries to award multi-million dollar damages against Tha Man on the flimsiest of evidence.

-ccm

27 posted on 10/18/2009 10:45:17 PM PDT by ccmay (Too much Law; not enough Order.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 13 | View Replies]

To: Alamo-Girl

You are welcome, Alamo-Girl!


28 posted on 10/18/2009 11:06:21 PM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 26 | View Replies]

To: Coleus; Quix; All

Thx.

Qx ping.

Vaccination side effect bookmark.


29 posted on 10/19/2009 3:54:13 AM PDT by Joya (Lord Jesus Christ, Son of God, Savior, have mercy on me, a sinner!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Nik Naym; GovernmentShrinker

Well, can we put forward another explanation for the explosion of peanut and other allergies?

I’m mainly agnostic on the whole vaccine thing in general—I’m not in the field so what do I know. Yet I do believe that pro-vaccination folks have their case dramatically undermined by pushing for vaccines against things like chickenpox where the severity is very slight, and things like HPV for young girls, a disease that can be entirely avoided almost by keeping your pants on.

Forcefully triggering an immune reaction has risks of its own. Maybe the benefits outweigh the risks for smallpox and polio. I’m not so sure in the case of chickenpox.


30 posted on 10/19/2009 4:05:28 AM PDT by Claud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 20 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

>>There is a vaccine for TB???

Yes, it has been available since 1921. I sure got it back when they used the “thimble” — many of my era have a little mark still.


31 posted on 10/19/2009 4:06:38 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: Claud

While chickenpox maybe a minor illness in your childhood, when it comes back as shingles in adulthood there can be serious complications.

In my case I think it lead to the loss of hearing in my left ear. My first experience with shingles was on my left forehead (and subsequent concern about it getting into the left eye).

IMHO Vaccines risks to rewards have to be weighed. As does every action we make.

“Shingles is caused by the varicella-zoster virus — the same virus that causes chickenpox. After you’ve had chickenpox, the virus lies inactive in nerve tissue near your spinal cord and brain. Years later, the virus may reactivate as shingles.” Ref: http://www.mayoclinic.com/health/shingles/DS00098


32 posted on 10/19/2009 5:22:10 AM PDT by Crazy Jim (There are known unknowns and then there are unknown unknowns. - Donald Rumsfeld)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003

“the thimble ...”

I’m pretty sure that’s from the small pox vax. I’m old enough to have one of those.


33 posted on 10/19/2009 5:23:21 AM PDT by Cloverfarm (Obama = Nixon II)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

I can’t speak for anyone else - but, the night I had to rush my child in to the emergency room due to a particular tree nut, was far from ‘made up’.


34 posted on 10/19/2009 5:49:42 AM PDT by HollyB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: HollyB
I think you replied to me by accident -- but no harm done.

FWIW, I absolutely recognize this as a real problem for many people. What I'm curious about is why the frequency of this problem seems to have increased. Something changed: I have no idea what.

35 posted on 10/19/2009 5:55:19 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Play the Race Card -- lose the game.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Crazy Jim
IMHO Vaccines risks to rewards have to be weighed. As does every action we make.

I agree 100%. I'm immediately skeptical of the attitude "all vaccines are bad" as well as the "vaccines are perfectly safe." It's a risk analysis that should be made by parents and their doctors.

And I'm sorry to hear about your hearing loss. I thought that the risk of shingles decreased (if not was practically eliminated) if you had the chickenpox as a youngster...is that not the case?

36 posted on 10/19/2009 5:56:07 AM PDT by Claud
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 32 | View Replies]

To: ClearCase_guy

Actually, I did not completely understand the article. But, I did find it strange in our family where no one has had food alergies - that my child popped up with a few at around 5 yo. I’m glad peanuts are fine, but I have found it odd that there are so many peanut/nut allergies as well. If someone could explain why this is, I’d love to know.


37 posted on 10/19/2009 6:10:26 AM PDT by HollyB
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 35 | View Replies]

To: Joya

THX


38 posted on 10/19/2009 6:30:43 AM PDT by Quix (POL Ldrs quotes fm1900 2 presnt: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/religion/2130557/posts?page=81#81)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 29 | View Replies]

To: freedumb2003

I think you got the Smallpox vaccine, not TB. Few of my generation do not have that scar as well.


39 posted on 10/19/2009 7:17:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

Is that you, Bill? Who knew Bill Maher was a Freeper?!

Great article, thanks. Sure makes sense to me.


40 posted on 10/19/2009 7:19:53 AM PDT by 9YearLurker
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe

Interesting.


41 posted on 10/19/2009 7:35:58 AM PDT by GOPJ (Liberal NFL doesn't think Rush is good enough for them? They feel the same about us...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 25 | View Replies]

To: Flightdeck
This is not true. A lie repeated a bunch of times is still a lie.

And a denial does not make it false, either.

I have no thoughts on this one way or the other. However, lack of proof does not mean proof of no causation.

42 posted on 10/19/2009 7:46:11 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux -- The Ultimate Windows Service Pack)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Smokin' Joe
"There is a vaccine for TB?"

Years ago they gave us BCG vaccinations when we went into nurses training. Nasty little thing. Created a weeping sore on our shoulders for about two weeks. I have no idea if it was useful for anything other than creating a positive skin test indicating TB "exposure" for many years.

43 posted on 10/19/2009 7:47:01 AM PDT by codder too
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 24 | View Replies]

To: ShadowAce

“And a denial does not make it false, either.

I have no thoughts on this one way or the other. However, lack of proof does not mean proof of no causation.”

If you read the quote that I said was not true, you’ll see I was actually referring to the fact that a “report was leaked which links...” THAT was not true. There is no study (or official report of such study) that describes a link between the drug and autism. There are only opinion-based article written by the likes of Rolling Stone magazine and Jenny McCarthy. I personally don’t believe the drug/autism link is true as well, but that is a secondary point which I wasn’t making.

However, I understand that I wasn’t very clear.


44 posted on 10/19/2009 8:03:29 AM PDT by Flightdeck (Go Longhorns)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 42 | View Replies]

To: Coleus
Reminds me of simpler times when I went to school back in the late 1960s-early 1970s. Back then, having a "hot lunch" served to you in a cafeteria was virtually unknown. All the kids brought lunchboxes to school with peanut butter & jelly sandwiches, an apple or banana, and maybe a Snickers bar or a bag of Cheez-its. Never heard of anybody having an allergy to peanuts and if they did, they'd be laughed at. However, many of us would attempt (without success) to claim an allergy to broccoli or string beans back at home.

The lunch boxes were invariably based on a theme from a television show. Some of the lunchboxes I remember were of The Partridge Family, Scooby-Doo, The Archies and even Adam-12 had their own lunchbox.

Never understood why it became mandatory to prepare and serve hot lunches in the schools and install all those soda and snack machines instead of just having the kids bring their lunches from home. It took my mother maybe 10 minutes to assemble the sandwiches each morning for the three of us so I'm not buying the "working Mom" excuse either.

45 posted on 10/19/2009 8:14:34 AM PDT by SamAdams76 (I am 12 days away from outliving Laura Branigan)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: codder too
Thank you for informing me. I recall smallpox and other vaccinations, and the polio vaccine campaign, but had heard little about a TB vaccine.

For the benefit of others who shared my ignorance, here is more information.

46 posted on 10/19/2009 8:44:03 AM PDT by Smokin' Joe (How often God must weep at humans' folly. Stand fast. God knows what He is doing.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 43 | View Replies]

To: Coleus

I really am sorry to get in on this one late. However, my wife and I have no allergies to speak of and we had the full compliment of vaccines, whereas my son cannot even be in the same room as peanut oil or he breaks out in hives. We discovered his allergy to peanuts when I gave him a bite of my peanut butter sandwich when he was 12 months. We took him to the ER as his airway was closing fast due to a reaction. Our children have not had vaccinations due to several anecdotal cases we know of first-hand where a kid got a shot and then developed autism.


47 posted on 10/19/2009 9:40:37 AM PDT by refreshed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: refreshed
Our children have not had vaccinations due to several anecdotal cases we know of first-hand where a kid got a shot and then developed autism.

About 50% of kids who get vaccinations later get facial hair.
48 posted on 10/19/2009 9:50:57 AM PDT by aruanan
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 47 | View Replies]

To: aruanan

I understand your point. That’s why I said “anecdotal.” I don’t expect anyone else to take that as evidence, but it is my own evidence.


49 posted on 10/19/2009 10:14:19 AM PDT by refreshed
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 48 | View Replies]

To: Cloverfarm

I am 100% sure there were TB shots, although you are probably right about that stupid thimble. I saw my childhood innoculation record and TB was on it.

But my reading says that we are now finding they were not that useful since TB appears to co-evolve with humans.

I suspect it was done in fits and starts — so maybe I was during the “on” period in California.


50 posted on 10/19/2009 10:53:45 AM PDT by freedumb2003 (Communism comes to America: 1/20/2009. Keep your powder dry, folks. Sic semper tyrannis)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 33 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-84 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson