Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

Skip to comments.

Mark Levin Hammers Beck Speech And Agrees With Bill Bennett
February 22, 2010

Posted on 02/22/2010 2:19:22 PM PST by Steelfish

AT NRO, Mark Levin hammers Beck too:

See full text of Levin's Comments here: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/2457009/posts ________________________________________________________ I want to commend Bill Bennett for his wise piece this morning on the Corner. http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YzM5OTJkYWE1ZTA5OTI1NWJiMjYwNDI4ZDg0NmQ3MGQ=

I agree with him. I have no idea what philosophy Glenn Beck is promoting. And neither does he. It’s incoherent. One day it’s populist, the next it’s libertarian bordering on anarchy, next it’s conservative but not really, etc. And to what end? I believe he has announced that he is no longer going to endorse candidates because our problems are bigger than politics. Well, of course, our problems are not easily dissected into categories, but to reject politics is to reject the manner in which we try to organize ourselves.

This is as old as Plato and Aristotle. Why would conservatives choose to surrender the political battlefield to our adversaries — who are trashing this society —when we must retake it in order to preserve our society? Philosophy, politics, culture, family, etc., are all of one. Edmund Burke, among others, wrote about it extensively, and far better that I possibly can. But all elements of the civil society require our defense. Besides, why preach such a strategy when conservatism is on the rise and the GOP is acting more responsibly?

Moreover, when he does discuss politics, which, ironically, is often, how can he claim today that there is no difference between the two parties when, but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative thanks to the grass-roots movement and a political uprising across the country, which has even reached into New Jersey and Massachusetts.


TOPICS: Chit/Chat; Society
KEYWORDS: billbennett; cpac2010; glennbeck; marklevin
Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last

1 posted on 02/22/2010 2:19:22 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

The libtards just love when high profile conservatives attack each other. Saves them a lot of trouble.


2 posted on 02/22/2010 2:22:51 PM PST by jazminerose
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Bill Bennett is a RINO like Newt “Dede” Gingrich et al.


3 posted on 02/22/2010 2:24:52 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
Bennett is a RINO. He really has no problem with “big government conservatives. Levin is for making the Republican Party more conservative. I agree with Levin and don't trust Bennett.

As for Beck, if he is advocating a third party for conservatives (and I don't listen to him enough to know whether he is or not), I think that would be a mistake at this point because the splintering effect would help the Marxists. However, someone needs to keep the Republicans honest, because they drift leftward any time the heat is not being put on them. And if Beck helps to keep them honest he is doing all of us a favor.

And, by the way, while I like Levin it appears he is extremely jealous of Beck so I try to keep that in mind when I hear of him criticizing Beck.

4 posted on 02/22/2010 2:25:47 PM PST by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: jazminerose

GLEN BECK IS SELLING AMERICA OUT BIG TIME. I DON’T LISTEN TO HIM ANYMORE.


5 posted on 02/22/2010 2:25:53 PM PST by manonCANAL
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: jazminerose

If only Beck, would take a break from the “Look at me” tour and focus on advocating conservative principles we would be better off.

How many fricking, “9/12 movements”, “refounding project”, “9 Principles/ 11 truths”, “Christmas Sweater”, “Beck Riley Concerts” can we stomach.


6 posted on 02/22/2010 2:27:16 PM PST by NavVet ("You Lie!")
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: jazminerose

I think Beck’s mistake was that by placing Obama and his socialists in the same pool with Republicans, he perhaps inadvertently mitigated Obama’s polices.


7 posted on 02/22/2010 2:27:24 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 2 | View Replies]

To: holdonnow

Bravo Mark.


8 posted on 02/22/2010 2:27:49 PM PST by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NavVet

Point very well made. Beck is unwittingly turning the conservative movement into a caricature.


9 posted on 02/22/2010 2:28:57 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: GeronL

I parted paths with bennet when I read his justification for the drug war about 15 years ago.

I have never touched anything stronger than weed and even that ended back in 1977, when it was $10 a lid and weak by todays standards. I am also for total legalization, like with alcohol.


10 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:14 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I don’t get it. Mark is wonderful, but this looks peevish on his part. Is this some manner of ill-conceived turf war?


11 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:21 PM PST by Amagi (Yo, Homeland Security: Stay stupid. Stay PC. Don't profile. Look for the bomb not the bomber.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

I loved Glenn’s book. How is he selling us out?


12 posted on 02/22/2010 2:29:35 PM PST by RobRoy (The US today: Revelation 18:4)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
Mark was great Friday.

He mentioned how hard it is to write one single book.

Mentioned ‘some talk show host’ (Beck) who has ‘written’ six in about a year...

Mentioned that the same guy was charging $80 to $120 to go to a show and learn about the constitution.

It was GREAT!

13 posted on 02/22/2010 2:31:58 PM PST by Leo Farnsworth (I'm really not Leo Farnsworth.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Amagi

I really don’t think so. Rather, Beck has been all over the place to the point that he now generally lumps all Republicans with Obama socialists. In one post, we have someone calling Bill Bennett a “socialist” and this is someone who has written extensively about the need to have universal school-choice and is adamantly pro-choice.


14 posted on 02/22/2010 2:32:09 PM PST by Steelfish
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 11 | View Replies]

To: GeronL
I'll listen to Levin on this and see his point, but Bill Bennett is one of the absolute last people on earth I want to ever hear anything from or see on TV again.

We have his book, "The Book of Virtues", prominently displayed in a bookshelf so folks can see it - upside down.

15 posted on 02/22/2010 2:33:08 PM PST by OKSooner (NoMoBHO)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 3 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I liked his speech at Cpac, it was quite rousing, and think what it did more than anything, is scare the crap out of the establishment gop. hopefully they took notice. I’m a Libertarian, and I don’t even vote third party and I live in a democrat controlled state where it probably wouldn’t make a difference anyways.


16 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:10 PM PST by Katya (Homo Nosce Te Ipsum)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RobRoy

Last thing I want is to see a bunch of kids on meth


17 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:46 PM PST by GeronL (Political Philosophy: I Own Me (yep, boiled down to 6 letters))
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Bennett stinks. Levin Good. Beck is out there.


18 posted on 02/22/2010 2:34:54 PM PST by Codeflier (Bush, Clinton, Bush, Obama - 4 democrat presidents in a row and counting...)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

Are you nuts! Are you in to collaborating with the Communists or what?


19 posted on 02/22/2010 2:35:11 PM PST by screaminsunshine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

He is more a conservative libertarian. As most people are when they really think about it.


20 posted on 02/22/2010 2:36:35 PM PST by screaminsunshine
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 9 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

He isn’t selling out at all, he is just jumping around to too many sides and acting a fool. I don’t, however, think he isn’t sincere. He is like a kid going into college trying to decide on his career and acting goofy- in this case he is trying to find his political voice but still acting goofy.

He has done some good things, exposing corruption in czars or fake tea party candidates like Medina.


21 posted on 02/22/2010 2:42:58 PM PST by mnehring
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Beck’s not obligated to present any particular philosophy, or opinion.

The bitchin’ about Beck’s zany ways is itself reaching a point of hysteria.

If a guy like Beck can disrupt ‘Conservatism’, then ‘Conservatism’ is a hoax along with all the Charlestons that claim to be ‘Conservative’.


22 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:21 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I agree with Glenn Beck. There really is not a dime’s worth of difference between most of the Republicans in the House and the Senate AND the dems@


23 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:45 PM PST by Cricket24 (Conservatives Only...NO RINO'S!!!!!!!!!!)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Beck is about to discuss the rumor he’s for a third party on his show, in the next segment.


24 posted on 02/22/2010 2:44:53 PM PST by dawn53
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

Is that you Olbermann?


25 posted on 02/22/2010 2:45:15 PM PST by 999replies (Thune/Rubio 2012)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I had a snit fit, (technical term hee!) on Beck a couple of weeks ago when he said everyone needed to suffer now and basically let the chips fall where they may in the too big to fail corporations. Beck had not suffered. He has used this crisis to gain popularity and I might add, he used online sources and information to create his theories. But others have suffered horribly and I wondered how they felt that more was coming.

Then I heard part of his CPAC speech and I was ecstatic. I agree both parties have at times legislated Unconstitutional law. I agree both parties have spent like there was a endless supply of money.

For me his message was, “Listen up republicans, get back to the party of conservatism or you are gone.”


26 posted on 02/22/2010 2:52:08 PM PST by OafOfOffice (W.C:Socialism:Philosophy of failure,creed of ignorance,gospel of envy,the equal sharing of misery)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I am confused. I heard Beck say that the GOP needs to admit they screwed up and battle big government. He didn’t say to leave the GOP, he said the GOP needs to change. Hard to disagree. They do fine as a minority party, but they need to present what they would do as a majority party.

Not that Beck doesn’t flirt with the idea of a third party in other venues, but he didn’t on Saturday. I don’t totally disagree. Either the GOP needs to become conservative or lose our support. Right now, they seem to be doing the right things.


27 posted on 02/22/2010 2:53:01 PM PST by ilgipper
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RobRoy

>> I loved Glenn’s book. How is he selling us out?

There’s nothing to sell out. He’s just a guy with a point view - some don’t like it, and some don’t get it.


28 posted on 02/22/2010 2:53:09 PM PST by Gene Eric (Your Hope has been redistributed. Here's your Change.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 12 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

so don’t be upset if I don’t listen to you


29 posted on 02/22/2010 3:00:36 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
Why can't the discussion be focused on the Constitution?

Why cannot every criticism raised by one conservative against another be prefaced by an acknowledgement of the beneficial work that has been done along Constitutional lines??

For example, why cannot Levin & Bennett offer constructive criticism to Beck about Beck's dismissive words of all Republican office holders, and complement Beck on the stunning work he does each night highlighting the path blazed by the Founding Father, and how the Obama administration is diametrically opposed??

Can we not begin to rid ourselves of ad hominem attacks, such as Bennett's gambling or anything else of a personal nature that has nothing to do with Constitutional principles??

When, oh when will we find the thread among all conservatives that binds us to the Founding Fathers??

Are we serious about getting our nation back? If so, we had better grow up, and ask our spokesmen to grow up, and stick to constructive criticism and discussion.
30 posted on 02/22/2010 3:06:16 PM PST by jobim
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: ilgipper
I agree.

A lot of people jumped on Tiger when he showed that he was man enough to admit he did wrong, apologize and said he was going to all that he could do to live the life that he took the vows to do.

Come on, be honest. Who in the GOP RINO party has even admitted to making a mistake.

Beck sees things way clearer than most and he has balls enough to speak about what he sees and knows to be true.

The only opinion you will hear Beck make is one that he says that he hopes he is wrong but one that the TRUTH leaves no room to hide.

I am disgusted with 70% of all members of the GOP and the fact that Lindsay Graham is still a member says way more than I need to.

Mark Levin might need to grow a pair too

31 posted on 02/22/2010 3:07:28 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 27 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

After Becks show today. I love Rush and all, still do, but Beck is more believable, unless you want Romney.


32 posted on 02/22/2010 3:07:49 PM PST by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: mnehring
Bravo Mark.

One of the few times I disagree with Mark. Love them Both. But Beck is right on this one!

33 posted on 02/22/2010 3:08:20 PM PST by factmart
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 8 | View Replies]

To: jobim

Great questions, but don’t expect many answers from the anti Beck crowd


34 posted on 02/22/2010 3:08:28 PM PST by BornToBeAmerican
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

I will stick with Beck, n00b.


35 posted on 02/22/2010 3:09:52 PM PST by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: BornToBeAmerican

I don’t think there is an anti Beck crowd.

But there is a legit...what’s he today.

Conservative, off the cliff libertarian fruitcake, Commie destroyer, equivocating the R with the D...

He’s slightly schizoid.


36 posted on 02/22/2010 3:11:31 PM PST by rbmillerjr (I'm praying for Palin....if not I'll vote 4 conservatives...Mitt won't get my vote)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 34 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Beck is challenging conservatives to take back their party, and to reject candidates who are not constitutionalists.

Same thing you hear on FR every day of the week.

That sounds pretty uncontroversial to me.

So when “conservatives” start going after conservatives instead of going after O and the anti-constitutionalists, I smell a rat.

The GOP establishment was falling all over itself to prove its bi-partisan bona fides until an ex-governor and a couple of talk show hosts started pushing back, and the rank and file threw a public fit while sipping tea. Out of that, a few GOP politicians managed to find their spines, and more than a few Dem politicians have panicked and started back-pedaling away from their messiah.

The list of public people who stopped Obama is pretty short. Beck is on that list, along with Limbaugh and a couple of other talkers, and Palin, and DeMint, and Inhofe, and a very few others. Anyone attacking these people I am immediately suspicious of. When we get to the primary season, I expect to see Repubs going after each other. When we’re in the middle of a fight to stop an anti-constitutionalist takeover, I expect allies to stick together.


37 posted on 02/22/2010 3:21:58 PM PST by marron
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: RobRoy

I like Bennet’s show, but I agree with you on his incredible blind spot when it coems to the War on Drugs!


38 posted on 02/22/2010 3:24:01 PM PST by Recovering Ex-hippie (Ok, joke's over....Bring back Bush !)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 10 | View Replies]

To: SharpRightTurn

Beck said on his show today that he is not advocating a third party.

I like Levin and I like Beck, and I wish Levin would leave the sniping to the Rats and their MSM propaganda machine.


39 posted on 02/22/2010 3:24:59 PM PST by Bigg Red (Palin/Hunter 2012 -- Bolton their Secretary of State)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 4 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish
but for the Republicans in Congress, government-run health care, cap-and-trade, card check, and a long list of other disastrous policies would already be law? The GOP is becoming more conservative

If the conservative base of the country, along with those that call themselves independents, had not raised holy heck, the Republicans would have folded their opposition tents, and signed on. Republicans LIVE to compromise, to find the "middle ground" of any power grab the D's will come up with.

40 posted on 02/22/2010 3:25:50 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

I think Levin needs to take a look at WHY beck has resonated so much with conservative/libertarian types in the GOP.

Bush was not a Conservative/Libertarian Republican, he was more of a Big Government Social Interventionist type Republican. There is a big difference between the two.


41 posted on 02/22/2010 3:26:24 PM PST by GraceG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: NavVet
How many fricking, “9/12 movements”, “refounding project”, “9 Principles/ 11 truths”, “Christmas Sweater”, “Beck Riley Concerts” can we stomach.

...about just as many Hannity 'Freedom Concerts'; I would wager. Let them ALL make money...no one is twisting anybody's arm.

42 posted on 02/22/2010 3:27:48 PM PST by who knows what evil? (G-d saved more animals than people on the ark...www.siameserescue.org.)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 6 | View Replies]

To: Bigg Red

>> Beck said on his show today that he is not advocating a third party.

I like Levin and I like Beck, and I wish Levin would leave the sniping to the Rats and their MSM propaganda machine. <<

Beck doesn’t outwardly attack Levin, something Beck is saying must be gaining Levin’s Ire and hitting hit at home quite closely.


43 posted on 02/22/2010 3:33:30 PM PST by GraceG
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 39 | View Replies]

To: jobim

Re Post 30....Perfect


44 posted on 02/22/2010 3:33:56 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 30 | View Replies]

To: BornToBeAmerican
Mark Levin might need to grow a pair too

Would we even recognize his voice if he did?

45 posted on 02/22/2010 3:35:25 PM PST by runninglips (Don't support the Republican party, work to "fundamentally change" it...conservative would be nice)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 31 | View Replies]

To: Gene Eric
You mean charlatans, right? In support of conservative Charlestonians.
46 posted on 02/22/2010 3:38:01 PM PST by dforest
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 22 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

Possibly all the confusion people are feeling is really not from Beck, but from the labels we insist upon, eventhough their meanings keep changing. The classic liberal would now be a conservative, liberals and progressives keep interchanging, the things that Democrats used to stand for, such as the little guy, privacy, etc. are now owned by conservatives who seem to be different from, yet somehow the same as Republicans and so forth. It has gotten to the point that there is so much confusion and sleight of hand from politicians trying to position themselves, that the labels are very confusing. THAT is intentional and I think it may be what Beck is trying to get at. The only thing that you can look for as a constant is TRUTH. See who is doing what they say, who seems to be speaking the truth and when you have decided then go with that person regardless of the label.

Labels should be shorthand to clarify, but they have been used to bypass our critical thinking and put us on automatic pilot when we vote. People no longer think of themselves as “voting Democrat or Republican”, instead they think they ARE a Democrat or Republican...which is quite different...as in “I am choosing apple pie” vs. “I AM apple pie.” Many people I know think they are Democrats, but when the issues are discussed without the label, they are actually Republicans. In addition I think there is a lot of jealousy of Beck for being successful and for daring to tread into intellectual areas as a self-made man. The Ivy League people are intimdated about ceding any of their degree conferred power or power connections to someone who didn’t come up through the elite approved system and get the proper degrees and “pedigrees.” They could as easily stress points of agreement and advance the cause while gently nudging about disagreements...but they choose instead to worry about things like Beck’s books and popularity.


47 posted on 02/22/2010 3:39:35 PM PST by Anima Mundi (The trouble with trouble is it starts out as Utopia)
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]

To: manonCANAL

clearly you don’t watch his show or you would know he is talking about PROGRESSIVEs in BOTH parties and is not advocating a third party.


48 posted on 02/22/2010 3:42:17 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 5 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

He placed Progressive Republicans — like John McCain, Lindsay Graham in with the democrats... not all Republicans.


49 posted on 02/22/2010 3:43:24 PM PST by Arizona Carolyn
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 7 | View Replies]

To: Steelfish

This is a policy debate between talking heads on one side- Which is healthy..
Should’ve said this, shouldn’t have said that....I would’ve, could’ve... Like Beck set back the Conservative movement because of one hour of standing ovations in Washington DC exposing truth to power... He’s a so called newcomer that is a threat to those who have been down with the struggle..
Sounds like Sharpton and Jackson if you ask me..

I love to see these talking heads recapping their own speeches to feel self-important on their programs today..

Glenn had me from Who’s in the White House- Bush, Bush Bush, Bush song-
He’s got a conservative friend in me...


50 posted on 02/22/2010 3:46:33 PM PST by delchiante
[ Post Reply | Private Reply | To 1 | View Replies]


Navigation: use the links below to view more comments.
first 1-5051-63 next last

Disclaimer: Opinions posted on Free Republic are those of the individual posters and do not necessarily represent the opinion of Free Republic or its management. All materials posted herein are protected by copyright law and the exemption for fair use of copyrighted works.

Free Republic
Browse · Search
General/Chat
Topics · Post Article

FreeRepublic, LLC, PO BOX 9771, FRESNO, CA 93794
FreeRepublic.com is powered by software copyright 2000-2008 John Robinson