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Barnett v Obama: Appellants' Opening Brief, 9th Circuit Court of Appeals
9th Circuit Court of Appeals ^ | 08/06/2010 | Orly Tatiz

Posted on 08/13/2010 12:35:03 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan

Orly Taitz closes her brief with the following:

"Shortly after Judge Carter completely changed his tune, Taitz came to the court house, brought some pleadings and heard the Marine march playing. Judge Carter, a former Marine was celebrating the Marine Corps day. There was a huge teddy bear sitting in the midst of the hallway, it had a shirt with the Marine insignia, the band was playing, clerk Sidharth Velamoor was there, all the other clerks and employees were there. Everyone was waiting for Judge Carter and the cake. Taitz started choking and trying to gather some strength to hold back tears. The only ones, who were missing, were Marines. The same Marines, whom Carter named cowards for standing up for the Constitution of this country, Marines, who sacrificed their carriers, earnings, who risked retaliation were called cowards.

Taitz turned around and left, and the Marine March kept playing on and on, on and on ... "

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TOPICS: Conspiracy; Humor; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: 9thcircuit; barnettvobama; birthers; certifigate; naturalborncitizen; orly; orlytaitz; taitz; whackamole
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This is some high drama and LOL reading. I've never seen anything like it.
1 posted on 08/13/2010 12:35:06 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan
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To: BuckeyeTexan
This would be a good law school exam question: how many violations of the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure can you find in the first 5 pages?

This is a stream-of-consciousness rant, not an appellate brief. There are no citations to the Record on Appeal; "facts" are discussed which were not placed before the trial court; there is not even an attempt to discuss the cases or reasoning relied upon by Judge Carter; I could go on and on. I expect the Court will strike the Brief and/or sanction Orly.

2 posted on 08/13/2010 12:42:13 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
This would be a good law school exam question: how many violations of the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure can you find in the first 5 pages?

Give me a hint. 5?

"As the court reads the final order, it becomes obvious, one does not have to be a Perry Mason, does not have to be a licensed attorney, to know, that the order was written by the defense attorney and rubber stamped by the judge."
Um, that's good, because she's no Perry Mason. Bwahahaha!
3 posted on 08/13/2010 12:48:20 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian

“how many violations of the Federal Rules of Appellate Procedure can you find in the first 5 pages?”

All of them?


4 posted on 08/13/2010 12:48:55 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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“As such this appeal is being forwarded to the Civil Rights Defenders Raporteur of the United Nations and the International Criminal Bar Panel in Hague.”

Orly wants to “defend the U.S. Constitution” by appealing to the U.N.? Give. Me. A. Break.


5 posted on 08/13/2010 12:53:35 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I’d like to get this thread started by posting an abstract of the pending comments.

*ahem*

Go Lady Liberty!


The woman is insane! What on earth does she think she’s doing?

Why do you hate the Constitution so much, Obot?

Yeah, sure are a lot of trolls on this thread.

They come out of the woodwork on these eligibility threads.

A long but well thought out assessment of a legal point of view.

Oh yeah? Well, here’s a picture of someone who looks funny! That is you!

Right On!

A contrary opinion of an earlier post.

Rational support for better vetting of candidates instead of foolish lawsuits.

How much they paying you?

Not nearly enough.

Thread hijack.

Recipes.

Ultimate exhaustion of all parties involved.

Miller time.


6 posted on 08/13/2010 12:56:42 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Nice to see that Orly’s gotten rid of whatever competent individual used to write her filings and has gone back to being the same nutcase we’ve all grown to know and love.


7 posted on 08/13/2010 12:58:50 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: BuckeyeTexan

So which is the more insane by far? Vaughn Walker’s ruling on Prop 8, or Taitz’s dramatic pleading

Walker’s the more! By far, imo!

Or another — the Obama Care Bill? Or any other mega bill passed this session. ALL INSANITY that meets the ‘rules of procedure’, eh?

Damn empty procedure!

Orly’s got an honest spirit missing in most of Congress, and many in the Judiciary.


8 posted on 08/13/2010 1:04:06 PM PDT by bvw
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To: El Sordo

You forgot one.

“Here come the flying monkeys!”

That’s my personal favorite.


9 posted on 08/13/2010 1:04:50 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Non-Sequitur
Nice to see that Orly’s gotten rid of whatever competent individual used to write her filings and has gone back to being the same nutcase we’ve all grown to know and love.

Her stuff used to be ghost-written for her by Charles Lincoln III, an ex-lawyer and ex-con who has been disbarred in three states, but at least knew what a legal document is supposed to look like. She and Lincoln are now suing each other, and Lincoln has been filing affidavits describing how he had sex with Orly in her dentist's chair. (No, I am not making that part up.)

10 posted on 08/13/2010 1:04:57 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: El Sordo

Butterdezillion could have written a much better brief, it might not have been correct on the facts, but it would have presented a more compelling argument.


11 posted on 08/13/2010 1:06:36 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: El Sordo
In an attempt to elevate the level of discourse, may I offer a portmanteau to your list:

HomObot!

12 posted on 08/13/2010 1:20:41 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: bvw; Lurking Libertarian

Walker is an activist judge pushing a homosexual agenda upon the voters of California against their will. In fact, he claims the majority vote supporting Prop 8 was “irrelevant.” His ruling was a travesty and a perversion of justice, IMHO, but at the very least, one could follow his logic to the conclusion he made. That’s not to say his logic was valid.

Orly Taitz, however, is incompetent. And she’s an attention whore, but I digress. There is no logic to follow in this brief. And there also is no conclusion, but again, I digress. As Lurking Libertarian said, this brief is nothing more than “a stream-of-consciousness rant.” She can’t keep her mind on one point of law (if she even knows what that is) without weaving off the road into a ditch of dramatic theatre and conspiratorial delusion.

Orly is a freak show. She belongs in the center ring of a traveling circus not in Congress.


13 posted on 08/13/2010 1:22:10 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: centurion316

It’s too bad nobody here can pinpoint any facts that butter has been wrong about.


14 posted on 08/13/2010 1:24:28 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

Well, I think that’s the problem, she hasn’t really come up with any facts yet, only opinions peddled as facts. She does it well, though.


15 posted on 08/13/2010 1:30:58 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: BuckeyeTexan

This is crazy. INSANE times. What I’m saying is Orly’s drama is much less an immediate hazard to society than the morally insane Congress and judges like Walker. That’s how insane things are.

One well-presented plate is deadly poison that LOOKS rational and sweet. The other plate is full of crazy spices and looks like a sloppy mess. But it’s harmless, and actually has some nutrients.

Start rejecting the poison, eh?


16 posted on 08/13/2010 1:33:08 PM PDT by bvw
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To: centurion316

IOW, you can’t refute ANYTHING she posts. Not surprised.


17 posted on 08/13/2010 1:36:16 PM PDT by edge919
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Taitz started choking and trying to gather some strength to hold back tears...Taitz turned around and left, and the Marine March kept playing on and on, on and on ... "

The network that gives this woman a reality show will be printing money.

18 posted on 08/13/2010 1:46:18 PM PDT by Tex-Con-Man
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To: Tex-Con-Man

No doubt. I’ll probably have to watch ...

Ugh.


19 posted on 08/13/2010 1:49:35 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: Tex-Con-Man; parsifal

We need parsy for this thread.

Tex, who demands that parsy post log in and post something funny.


20 posted on 08/13/2010 1:51:02 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Here at first glance (dirty glasses) I thought the title was “Barrett vs Obama”.....that’s why I looked!</sarcasm>


21 posted on 08/13/2010 1:53:02 PM PDT by Aut Pax Aut Bellum (Inflation is for trying to fix broken bubbles, apparently)
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To: edge919

I’m not attempting to refute anything she has posted. I don’t refute opinions.


22 posted on 08/13/2010 1:59:06 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: Lurking Libertarian

23 posted on 08/13/2010 2:01:28 PM PDT by naturalized
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To: BuckeyeTexan

I suppose you support the resident in chief, dismissing the will of the people, and same sex marriage?


24 posted on 08/13/2010 2:13:35 PM PDT by SouthTexas
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To: centurion316

She must have burned you badly. It’s really petty to bring her up in a thread that has nothing to do with her.


25 posted on 08/13/2010 2:21:53 PM PDT by edge919
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To: edge919

What I actually said was that she makes a much more coherent argument than does this ditz lawyer. It was meant as a compliment.


26 posted on 08/13/2010 2:24:32 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: bvw
This is how you file a legal document in the Court of Appeals. Contrast with the way Orly did it.
27 posted on 08/13/2010 2:27:55 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: SouthTexas

You would be wrong.


28 posted on 08/13/2010 2:33:15 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan; parsifal

I second this.

PARSIFAL! COME BACK PARSIFAL!


29 posted on 08/13/2010 2:42:44 PM PDT by El Sordo (The bigger the government, the smaller the citizen.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
You know what? When a ruling as insane as Judge Vaughn Walker's is published to the world with all the horns and trumpets of mass media and the only response from the many tens of thousands of Judges and members of the Bar is summer cicadas chirping ... I lose interest in the laments of the procedure-nazis who dominate modern American courts.

As far as I am concerned every REAL Judge should be yelling down that infamy of a ruling. Instead all I am hearing is how wonderful it is how the courts have kept the crazy birthers from getting any hearing whatsoever.

Compare and contrast. The ideal of a Justice arising like a golden dawn from shining city upon a hill, to the offal rains of despair and depravity the US Bar pours down upon we citizens day after day after day ...

30 posted on 08/13/2010 2:56:39 PM PDT by bvw
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To: El Sordo

Parsy is missed, true.


31 posted on 08/13/2010 2:57:43 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
Orly’s got an honest spirit missing in most of Congress, and many in the Judiciary.

And what's missing on Orly is most of her marbles.

32 posted on 08/13/2010 2:59:37 PM PDT by Non-Sequitur
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To: Non-Sequitur

Joseph Heller territory — Yossarian in Catch-22. The only sane person acts like she is insane. Her off-beat rants are a nova-star of sanity contrasted to the black moral insanities and perversions of a Justice system overtaken and gutted by banal nuances of procedure.


33 posted on 08/13/2010 3:06:21 PM PDT by bvw
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To: bvw
I lose interest in the laments of the procedure-nazis who dominate modern American courts.

"The history of liberty has largely been the history of the observance of procedural safeguards." Justice Felix Frankfurter in McNabb v. United States, 318 US 332, 347 (1943).

34 posted on 08/13/2010 3:48:36 PM PDT by Lurking Libertarian (Non sub homine, sed sub Deo et lege)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
The fruit of "the observance of procedural safeguards"
In 1919, Frankfurter married Marion Denman, the daughter of a Congregational minister and a Smith College graduate. They married after a long and difficult courtship, and against the wishes of his mother, who was disturbed by the prospect of her son marrying outside the Jewish faith.

Frankfurter himself was a non-practicing Jew, and regrded religion as "an accident of birth".

Frankfurter was a dominating husband and Denman suffered from frail health, which resulted in frequent mental breakdowns. The couple had no children.

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Frankfurter's adherence to the judicial restraint philosophy was shown in 1940 [] Minersville School District v. Gobitis, a case involving Jehovah's Witnesses students who had been expelled from school due to their refusal to salute the flag and recite the Pledge of Allegiance. He rejected claims that First Amendment rights should be protected by law, and urged deference to the decisions of the elected school board officials.

He stated that religious belief "does not relieve the citizen from the discharge of political responsibilities" and that exempting the children from the flag-saluting ceremony "might cast doubts in the minds of other children" and reduce their loyalty to the nation.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Felix_Frankfurter

American socialist Francis Bellamy wrote the Pledge as a way to indoctrinate children into loyalty to the State.

Although Frankfurter was a fierce Zionist, he was also a Statist. The State could do no wrong.

So ... Frankfurter's "Liberty" was far from that conceived of by the Founders.

35 posted on 08/13/2010 4:29:37 PM PDT by bvw
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To: BuckeyeTexan
We've all heard of the run-on sentence.

Orly has perfected the run-on brief.

It just rambles here, there and everywhere with no real attempt at focus. She doesn't even understand what legal space she is currently in. What comes though is her sense of personal outrage that everyone doesn't agree with her, not an actual legal argument of the kind briefs are supposed to convey.

She is, however, entertaining.

36 posted on 08/13/2010 4:34:04 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: bvw

What’s really insane is the 0thugga groupie toadies on FR.


37 posted on 08/13/2010 5:13:03 PM PDT by little jeremiah
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To: little jeremiah

Go away troll. This is a whack-a-mole thread. You’re not invited.


38 posted on 08/13/2010 6:06:54 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: little jeremiah

I’m kidding.


39 posted on 08/13/2010 6:07:45 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

Good for Orly Taitz...keep knocking on doors...keep the issue up front...do whatever it takes Orly...someday that door is going to open up and you’ll be ready. At least you’re doing something.

Most are just gutless wonders like the Taliban that bury their women in a hole and throw rocks and vile words at them until they’re dead.


40 posted on 08/13/2010 6:16:00 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (.)
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To: Lurking Libertarian
Her stuff used to be ghost-written for her by Charles Lincoln III, an ex-lawyer and ex-con who has been disbarred in three states, but at least knew what a legal document is supposed to look like. She and Lincoln are now suing each other, and Lincoln has been filing affidavits describing how he had sex with Orly in her dentist's chair. (No, I am not making that part up.) Oh no! I was an Orly defender, but the prose is just too much. The possible dental chair sex is beyond too much. Like a morbid curiosity at a car accident, I find myself wondering how does the dental chair sex figure into his lawsuit?
41 posted on 08/13/2010 6:26:03 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: BuckeyeTexan
Tex, who demands that parsy post log in and post something funny. I want to be pinged if he parsy pipes in on this one! He could have a field day!!!
42 posted on 08/13/2010 6:28:36 PM PDT by FreeStateYank (I want my country and constitution back, now!)
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To: RowdyFFC
Good for Orly Taitz...keep knocking on doors...keep the issue up front...do whatever it takes Orly...someday that door is going to open up and you’ll be ready. At least you’re doing something.

Most are just gutless wonders like the Taliban that bury their women in a hole and throw rocks and vile words at them until they’re dead.

So asking for non-insane legal briefs that might actually accomplish something is the same thing as stoning women to death?

That's a thought worthy of Orly.

43 posted on 08/13/2010 6:35:38 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: tired_old_conservative
So asking for non-insane legal briefs that might actually accomplish something is the same thing as stoning women to death?

That's a thought worthy of Orly.

I know, right?! /teenager off

44 posted on 08/13/2010 7:06:21 PM PDT by BuckeyeTexan (There are those that break and bend. I'm the other kind.)
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To: tired_old_conservative

Yeah, your beating up on this woman is clearly the same frame of mind as the Taliban.

I looked at her legal brief, and the citations in it. And if it only had one cite in it to the Constitution’s qualification of a natural born citizen, it would still make perfectly good sense...certainly more sense than a bunch of men beating up on the woman who wrote it with their pithy little remarks and condescension as they beat on their chests and throw verbal rocks.


45 posted on 08/13/2010 7:22:03 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (.)
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To: BuckeyeTexan

later


46 posted on 08/13/2010 7:30:24 PM PDT by Former MSM Viewer
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To: RowdyFFC
Yeah, your beating up on this woman is clearly the same frame of mind as the Taliban.

I looked at her legal brief, and the citations in it. And if it only had one cite in it to the Constitution’s qualification of a natural born citizen, it would still make perfectly good sense...certainly more sense than a bunch of men beating up on the woman who wrote it with their pithy little remarks and condescension as they beat on their chests and throw verbal rocks.

Well, if you are unable to distinguish between the acts of throwing acid in someone's face or stoning them to death and the act of pointing out the follies of a ludicrous, legal brief, then your intellect is obviously not up to the task of having a meaningful opinion on much of anything.

Verbal rocks are common in life. They are very different from actual rocks. Lose the rocks in your head, and you may be able to grasp the distinction.

47 posted on 08/13/2010 7:34:36 PM PDT by tired_old_conservative
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To: Tex-Con-Man

HomObot!

lol... these guys are stroking each other like it’s Pride Day in SF!


48 posted on 08/13/2010 7:40:02 PM PDT by TauntedTiger (Keep away from the fence!)
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To: tired_old_conservative; RowdyFFC
What the Taliban does:

Thinking Orly Taitz has no legal sense is hardly equivalent!

49 posted on 08/13/2010 7:42:11 PM PDT by Mr Rogers (When the ass brays, don't reply...)
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Um, that’s good, because she’s no Perry Mason. Bwahahaha! (Makes your ego feel good, doesn’t it?)

Nice to see that Orly’s gotten rid of whatever competent individual used to write her filings and has gone back to being the same nutcase we’ve all grown to know and love. (Next comes she’s a nutcase argument...Taliban lite...)

Her stuff used to be ghost-written for her by Charles Lincoln III, an ex-lawyer and ex-con who has been disbarred in three states, but at least knew what a legal document is supposed to look like. She and Lincoln are now suing each other, and Lincoln has been filing affidavits describing how he had sex with Orly in her dentist’s chair. (No, I am not making that part up.) (Taliban lite….I guess she needs 4 witnesses to prove that never happened.)

Orly Taitz, however, is incompetent. And she’s an attention whore, but I digress. There is no logic to follow in this brief. And there also is no conclusion, but again, I digress. As Lurking Libertarian said, this brief is nothing more than “a stream-of-consciousness rant.” She can’t keep her mind on one point of law (if she even knows what that is) without weaving off the road into a ditch of dramatic theatre and conspiratorial delusion. Orly is a freak show. She belongs in the center ring of a traveling circus not in Congress. (More Taliban lite…now she’s a whore and a freak. I bet that’s what they said right before they cut off that woman’s nose.)

The network that gives this woman a reality show will be printing money.

23 posted on Friday, August 13, 2010 4:01:28 PM by naturalized (Oh nice pics there Abu Naturalized!)

And what’s missing on Orly is most of her marbles. (She’s insane...Typical NEXTTTTTTTTTTT....)

She is, however, entertaining. (NEXT comes condescention…)

ROFL! The PROUD American Taliban lite...NOW WE’VE DONE ORLY TAITZ IN LET’S ALL GIVE OURSELVES A ^5!


50 posted on 08/13/2010 8:42:21 PM PDT by RowdyFFC (.)
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