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Stunning Stupidity: Angry Dad Pulls Taser on School Bully
NBC Miami ^ | Wed, Sep 1, 2010 | BRIAN HAMACHER

Posted on 09/02/2010 10:05:18 AM PDT by nickcarraway

Father arrested for child abuse for confrontation with 5th grader

An angry dad whose son was having problems with a fifth grader at his Hollywood elementary school decided to take matters into his own hands and pulled a stun gun on the frightened 11-year-old.

The incident happened Tuesday afternoon, as classes at Oakridge Elementary at 1507 North 28th Ave. were being dismissed.

According to police, the father, 66-year-old Jose Enrique Guerrero, confronted the fifth grader as he left the school campus, pushing him against a fence and threatening him with the stun gun while holding it inches from his face.

Guerrero allegedly told the boy, "Do you want some of this?"

When officers found Guerrero near the campus, he was wearing the stun gun on his waistband. He was arrested on a felony charge of child abuse.

The 11-year-old told officers he'd been "having problems" with Guerrero's son, according to police.

Neighbors of Guerrero were shocked to learn of his actions, partly because he is a pastor at a local church. he revealed his occupation to a Broward County judge, who was shocked to hear of the father's act of vengeance. "There's clearly more to this story," the judge said.


TOPICS: Local News; Miscellaneous; Weird Stuff
KEYWORDS: bullies; bully; bullying; taser
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To: allmendream
Sigh. . . again with the sweeping baseless generalizations.

Care to try again. . .and yes, poodles need protection from the wolves and sheepdogs are the ones to do it.

Get the distinction?

Probably not.

I guess we depart here, as you see no limit to bully behavior and I do.

Have fun being all wolfish and all.

;-)

41 posted on 09/02/2010 11:10:00 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: Hulka
Well I guess all an adult has to do to be excused from committing a violent assault on an 11 year old is to tell you the magic word “Bully”, and then no violence against the kid, up to and including being “put down quickly and forcefully” “like a rabid dog” is unjustified.

Sheesh. Grow up.

42 posted on 09/02/2010 11:10:50 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: nickcarraway

Go after the bullies father mano y mano.


43 posted on 09/02/2010 11:11:22 AM PDT by central_va (I won't be reconstructed, and I do not give a damn.)
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I know a man whose name for real is Michael Brady, and his mom’s name is Carol.


44 posted on 09/02/2010 11:15:51 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I know a man whose name for real is Michael Brady, and his mom’s name is Carol.


45 posted on 09/02/2010 11:16:04 AM PDT by synbad600
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To: Hulka

I think there is a time and a place for poodles, sheepdogs AND wolves.

We don’t have enough information on this story to make a determination as to who was who, or who needed to be what.

I’ll tell you this though, there’s only so much messing with my cubs you could do before I turn into one of Palin’s Momma Grizzly’s......


46 posted on 09/02/2010 11:18:38 AM PDT by mom4melody
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To: allmendream
“Well I guess all an adult has to do to be excused from committing a violent assault on an 11 year old is to tell you the magic word “Bully””

Again with the sweeping generalizations. Don't you ever get tired from jumping to baseless conclusions, side-stepping arguments and ducking facts? That would be exhausting to all of us, not being “wolves” and all that.

When did I comment directly on the case at hand? My comments were directed at the subject of bully behavior and the limits thereof.

Cheers, Mr Big Bad Wolf.

47 posted on 09/02/2010 11:19:11 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: mom4melody

Agree.


48 posted on 09/02/2010 11:19:48 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: nickcarraway

I read all the responses. I also have 3 kids, including two teenagers.

My observation is that we live in an age of no consequences, and that is why bullies get away with what they do. Kids do and say whatever they want, because there are very little, or no, consequences for actions. This, in my opinion, was partially brought on by the internet, where people can call each other names, insult, degrade and threaten without consequences. We see it every day, even here at FR.

That behavior has spilled over into the real world, especially with kids. For example, I had a 12 year old boy on my baseball team tell me to “f**k off”. Seeing what he writes on FB on a regular basis made me realize he was talking to me like he was speaking to people online.

Many parents are too weak-willed or simply unaware or uninterested to meet bad actions with consequences.


49 posted on 09/02/2010 11:26:17 AM PDT by Ironfocus
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To: Hulka
From the guy who diagnosed me as a bully, now complaints about sweeping generalizations and jumping to conclusions?

Do you even see yourself?

So your comments had nothing to do with the actual case under discussion?

Mine did.

Did you ever think that, perhaps, the 60 some year old man was the dreaded cursed reviled ‘deserving to be put down like a rabid dog’ bully for threatening an 11 year old with a stun gun?

Old man needed a weapon to intimidate and bully an 11 year old to protect his poor little 11 year old son?

Get a grip and grow up.

50 posted on 09/02/2010 11:26:37 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: allmendream
Just because the bully is 11 doesn't mean the other kid also was. The story mentions nothing about the victim's age or grade level.

Never seen an older kid picking on & bullying the younger ones? Do bullies typically pick on those big enough, old enough to effectively fight back; or do they go after the small, weak, and helpless?

Is a skinny 8 or 9 year old a ‘poofter’ because he is unable to defend himself from an 11 year old jock-brained moose?

Does the 11 year old jock-brained, over developed, bully moose lead a couple of henchmen, as is typical, in his junior gang forays?

See how easy it is to cast unwarrented invective based on made up “facts”?

51 posted on 09/02/2010 11:39:41 AM PDT by ApplegateRanch (Islam: A Satanically Transmitted Disease spread by unprotected intimate contact with the Koranus)
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To: RinaseaofDs

I agree with you except for exhausting all the other resources first. I would have stunned the kid and then had my kid stand over him so all the other kids got the message. Yes it is cheating but think of it as.... good pr.


52 posted on 09/02/2010 11:40:21 AM PDT by Walkingfeather
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To: November 2010

BJJ is fun, but if you’re talking about self-defense, it’s time for Krav Maga.


53 posted on 09/02/2010 11:45:22 AM PDT by islander-11 (Save Nantucket - Vote Republican!!!)
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To: Hulka

Had to deal with bullies a lot as a kid. Taught me not to trust many people. Oddly, haven’t dealt with bullies as an adult, but have been told I should trust more than I do.


54 posted on 09/02/2010 11:46:49 AM PDT by HungarianGypsy
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To: islander-11

Don’t see Krav Maga dominating UFC. Sorry.


55 posted on 09/02/2010 11:52:33 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: November 2010
Wrestling your opponent down to the ground may well dominate in 1:1 cage match style competition, but that doesn't mean that it is the best martial art for dealing with every situation (like where the ground is covered with broken glass, or your opponent has a buddy or two who would like to kick you while you are down on the ground wrestling).

Now don't get me wrong. Nuff respect to Hoyce Gracie and all that. Brazilian Jujitsu is awesome stuff, but it is limited in some respects.

56 posted on 09/02/2010 11:56:23 AM PDT by allmendream (Income is EARNED not distributed. So how could it be re-distributed?)
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To: islander-11

Then again, maybe in Krav Maga all the moves are illegal in competition so you don’t see it . . . so maybe it is the way to go. Don’t know much about it other than Israeli defense forces use it. The thing that impresses me most about BJJ is that most fights between men do end up on the ground, and it’s the only fighting style I’ve ever seen where the smaller guy can win on the ground.


57 posted on 09/02/2010 11:58:40 AM PDT by November 2010
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To: allmendream

“So your comments had nothing to do with the actual case under discussion?”

Yes.

Never commented on the case. Just the subject.

Have a nice day.


58 posted on 09/02/2010 11:59:07 AM PDT by Hulka
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To: allmendream

posted above while you were posting. If I had a boy (girls only for me) I definitely would enroll them in Brazilian Ju Jitsu.

Girls I’ll just take to the shooting range and show them a couple moves.


59 posted on 09/02/2010 12:00:48 PM PDT by November 2010
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To: DE50AE

The good news is that Dexter starts up a new season in just 3 or more weeks. I’m addicted - and probably gonna go to hell for liking the show as much as I do.


60 posted on 09/02/2010 12:05:28 PM PDT by Hodar (Who needs laws .... when this "feels" so right?)
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