Here you can see the typical corkscrew pattern of a missile exhaust plume
Posted on 11/12/2010 3:52:43 PM PST by DontTreadOnMe2009
Title of video is: Mysterious Missile Launches over Southern California Mystery Missile Launch "Lights Up the Sky" over LA: Watch the video and judge for yourself. Listen to the former Deputy Secretary of Defense, and former US Ambassador to NATO, Robert Ellsworth, and hear the laughing amazement in his voice as he tells the two reporters: "It is a big missile !!! Spectacular! Takes your breath away !!! Sub launched ICBM !!!" ... but what would he know?
(Excerpt) Read more at state-of-the-nation.com ...
You be the judge, but the speed of this is unlike any other so-called “optical illusion” of an aircraft approaching LAX we have ever seen in 20 years at LAX.
San Nicolas island (part of NAS Mugu) is right under the putative launch point.
The raw video shows clear plume movement and a 'flame'. It's not a plane: this was a rocket.
I don’t think there’s ten minutes of interesting film - IIRC the camera man said the actual launch or event took only about two minutes.
Definitely. The zoom makes it look like it’s moving, as does the shaky camera. You can tell by looking at the features in the contrail, which don’t move relative to the object.
“but the speed of this is unlike any other”
How fast is it going?
It seems that the cameraman was struggling in his brief interview and said that he shot 10 minutes of film but showing two minutes of ICBM missile gong up into the sky...
and 8 minutes of lingering smoke, as he was so amazed at what he had seen and was waiting to see what happened next but the object had disappeared as it got smaller and smaller, and only the smoke plume remained.
The total raw footage from beginning to end seems not to be found anywhere - only chopped up bits and parts.
So, people repeating the story over and over (bloggers) have got it messed up.
I quote from their website:
Speed was UNLIKE anything we have seen before in 20 years at LAX.
They were there.
They should know.
They have 20 years experience, unlike the many (all) blogosphere experts who have “solved” the mystery.
Link was posted above, by someone else but I will now find it again and repost.
Anyway, 60 to 90 seconds of missile + the remaining smoke plume floating in the sky is what seems to have been recorded.
I agree, but only because I’ve seen the video. Stills of missile plumes/contrails can look very like each other - they’re simply not conclusive.
The video shows a rocket. Given that the firing position is right in the middle of a naval missile testing base, we can hazard a guess as to the nature of the rocket: it was Navy.
Maybe an unscheduled launch, maybe a complete accident - for all we know this was a cook-off of a solid fuel booster.
Is there some “raw video” that different from all the video that keeps getting posted? Because the video that has been shown does not show this.
Plus, there’s no way they launched a missile from the ordnance range without filing to keep planes out of the area. Or without anybody hearing it.
Here is the site of the owners of the LAX web cam
http://www.cargolaw.com/2000nightmare_singles.only.html#LAX-Mystery-Missle
“Never seen anything like it before after 20 years at LAX”
but what would they know ...
you just need to force your brain to see the bottom left as being much further away than the top right, and it will become clear to you.
>>So, do you believe TWA 800 was destroyed by a center fuel tank explosion?<<
Nope. And if this had the same number of eyewitness accounts, I’d be more suspicios that it might be a missile, even though the video looks like an aircraft contrail.
And the reason is not just the eyewitness accounts. There is a second category: Specifically, they were unable to replicate the cause of the explosion. However, this contrail is replicated daily in various intensities.
By flight 808. :)
Sorry, I just don’t agree.
From the LAX webcam owners with 20 years of viewing experience:
http://www.cargolaw.com/2000nightmare_singles.only.html#LAX-Mystery-Missle
“This is like nothing we have seen in 20 years at LAX”
“Within seconds the object had zoomed out of our view”
etc
20 years at LAX and THEY SAY that it is not an airplane ...
The posted video shows plume movement and a flame. You and I had this discussion earlier today: I see it, you see something else.
No matter, FReepers can look at the video and make up their own minds.
On the second point: if this was a booster cook-off or some other misfire then the filing requirements go out of the window. It would also explain why the Navy aren’t claiming it as one of theirs. Seems plausible.
Ok, bedtime. Good night from this side of the pond.
US Airways had very little to say about about Flight 808. They seemed to be as organized as the military. (No surprise,as I fly them regularly and they are clueless on a regular basis.)
But, having earlier enjoyed watching three aircraft, in echelon (very, rare), flying west from L.A. county this afternoon, and having noted that their three twin contrails were very short and hardly as copious as the one on video; I still have one question:
Why is there a Chinook (CH53), which is also very rare in or near L.A., in the foreground of the video and pointed directly at the contrail/exhaust trail shown on the video?
As would it not being a rocket.
Where is a linear timeline chart of events, when the Boeing 787 had a major in flight electrical fire, when the Carnival ship had a mysterious double electrical fire and when this object was first seen.
And has anyone seen any evidence of reports of other ships in the area suffering mysterious electrical problems?
Was it a sub launched missile to take out an orbital platform? Something that was an immediate danger to the US? Like a satellite capable of creating an EMP pulse, or pulses?
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