Posted on 12/17/2010 6:50:40 AM PST by decimon
LOUISVILLE, Ky. – An astronomer argues that his Christian faith and his peers' belief that he is an evolution skeptic kept him from getting a prestigious job as the director of a new student observatory at the University of Kentucky.
Martin Gaskell quickly rose to the top of a list of applicants being considered by the university's search committee. One member said he was "breathtakingly above the other applicants."
Others openly worried his Christian faith could conflict with his duties as a scientist, calling him "something close to a creationist" and "potentially evangelical."
Even though Gaskell says he is not a creationist, he claims he was passed over for the job at UK's MacAdam Student Observatory three years ago because of his religion and statements that were perceived to be critical of the theory of evolution.
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Evolutionism is born and fanatically defended by the same kind of science that gives us Anthropomorphic Global Climate Change.
If a lib glanced at the headline they’d think he was an atheist & those KY bitter clingers were discriminating because he’s not Christian.
Excellent statement. Did you coin the term “Evolutionism”? I have not seen that before, but so perfectly sets the rabid cult-like faith into its true framework.
If not realizing the institution is a university.
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This seems to be a pure case of discrimination.
> Did you coin the term “Evolutionism”?
I don’t think so, but I can’t say where I may have first seen or heard it.
The defenders of this cult almost always resort to name-calling and hysterical hyperbole. Few of them will discuss the facts or agree that we simply interpret the same evidence differently.
They are just like the global warmists.
We are “deniers”, doncha know, a bit of hyperbole meant to compare us to Holocaust Deniers, like Amadinejad of Iran.
However, unlike evolutionism and global warmism, there is ample historical, even filmed, conclusive evidence for the systematic wholesale slaughter of Jews, Gypsies, Slavs, the mentally deficient, and others condemned by the Nazis.
I'm sure that my teachers have been all over the religious and political maps. If they're not trying to push their beliefs on me then I don't care.
I was listening to John Batchelor this week and he sometimes has some hardcore lefties on, but he treats them seriously. This lady was Susan Brooks Thislethwaite, who is supposedly real big in the religous academic circles, but who really is just a big feminist, left wing commie. Among all her titles and chairs, she is the head of the religous co-option branch of the American Center for Progress. Need I say more? I was floored when she implied that creationist and anti-global warming people are very dangerous because there is a hidden political message or aspect to thier beliefs. To say this with a straight face as if global warming science and evolution have no political agenda whatsoever is the absolute height of gall and hypocrisy. I see right thru people like this. She also said that not voting for the Start Treaty was Immoral. Ha, Ha, Ha, No politics in that morality, right?
To me, if evolution is true and there is no God, then nothing else matters. We are beasts of the field. Human suffering is meaningless and greed and hate are the same thing as love and compassion. Just different meaningless electrical signals in the brain that flow outward into the meaningless void.
Francis Schaeffer did a fairly thorough job of demonstrating that your remark is true not only for you, but really for everyone. If this is all here due to time+chance+(fill in the blank, energy, mass, matter, etc.), then nothing has any meaning, anyway. No basis for morality exists and confidence in knowledge is unsupportable. The bizarre abnormality is that those hoping there is no God care so passionately about proving that their lives have no point. Hmmm. Who exactly is dangerously deranged?
These two are not mutually exclusive.
If you look at it, you'll see that we are still evolving. It just mostly software now. Hardware will follow.
(A minor rewrite, to sort of put this into perspective)
LOUISVILLE, Ky. – An astronomer argues that his being part negro and his peers’ dislike of negroes, kept him from getting a prestigious job as the director of a new student observatory at the University of Kentucky.
Martin Gaskell quickly rose to the top of a list of applicants being considered by the university’s search committee. One member said he was “breathtakingly above the other applicants.”
Others openly worried that his being black could conflict with his duties as a scientist, calling him “something close to dark skinned” and “potentially menacing.”
Even though Gaskell says he is only partially black, he claims he was passed over for the job at UK’s MacAdam Student Observatory three years ago because of his appearance and statements he made that were perceived to be critical of institutional racism.
Gaskell later learned that professors had discussed his ethnicity during the search process. Gaskell said in an e-mail that he didn’t grow frustrated, but felt “one should not allow universities to get away with racial discrimination.”
“We might as well allow miscegenation in biology,” biology professor James Krupa wrote to a colleague in an October 2007 e-mail.
An astrophysics professor, Moshe Elitzur, told Cavagnero that the hire would be a “huge public relations mistake,” according to an e-mail from Cavagnero in court records.
“Moshe predicts that he would not be here one month before the (Lexington) Herald-Leader headline would read: ‘UK hires colored man to direct new student observatory.’”
Sounds like the "scientists" let their emotions do the thinking in this case.
Even though Gaskell says he is not a creationist, he claims he was passed over for the job at UK's MacAdam Student Observatory three years ago because of his religion and statements that were perceived to be critical of the theory of evolution.Thanks decimon.
Is this a veiled Battlestar G. reference? Matrix perhaps? Terminator? Here is what I say about those concepts. I love them all and can not get enough of those rich stories. However, I’ll be worried about our technology taking over our evolution not when they make Skynet, but when they make an abominable beast. Skynet is there just to make sure everyone sees it.
Not exactly on topic, but close:
When I was in college, 35 years ago, I took a philosophy class: Introduction to Logic. Professors I knew from the History and Sociology departments warned me about him. Nothing too alarming, but he was “old fashioned”, “has old fashioned ideas”, “different”, “hard to understand” and “difficult to get along with”, “watch out for him”, and etc. Like I said, nothing too alarming or specific, just a quiet mocking tone that described a marginalized figure who really didn’t “belong” in the college, but there he was and everyone had to put up with him. I’m sure everyone knows how these things work in the sophisticated, suave, slay with a soft word, ivy covered halls of academia.
Now for the punch line: I found out later what it was that everyone was hinting about him. He was a Christian who took his faith seriously. He actually believed the Bible is God’s Word. A rare person in that day at that college.
I became a Christian after graduation (through reading the Bible), and the- mystery-of-a-misunderstood-lecture cleared up: on the first day of his Introduction to Logic class he discussed the Greek origin of the word “logic” from “logos”. In that lecture he referenced the passage from John 1:1 as an example of the range of the word’s usage. This lecture stood out in my memory because I wasn’t able to make heads nor tails of it, I couldn’t even take meaningful notes. And this had puzzled me because I was an excellent and copious note taker. But that lecture was completely unintelligible to me, it sounded like a rushing of wind and nothing more. I was actually troubled and confused by it.
I later found out why. Paul in I Corinthians 2:14 wrote, “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.(KJV)”
That described me when hearing that lecture. I couldn’t understand his Bible reference, it sounded silly, and I went away with a big question mark and no notes. After I came to know Jesus Christ as my savior I then understood that lecture somewhat (after a remove of about 3 years).
I went back and visited with this Professor. He knew what other professors thought and said about him. He voiced not one single complaint, but had rather a clear and simple appraisal of his relationships with other professors. His life at that college was a testimony to firm confident faith in Jesus Christ, never cowed by, nor becoming resentful of, the nay saying and the “behind the hand” derision and rejection by fellow professors. An admirable man, an admirable faith.
Not exactly on topic, but my experience in the culture wars when I was in college.
When I was in college, 35 years ago, I took a philosophy class: Introduction to Logic. Professors I knew from the History and Sociology departments warned me about him. Nothing too alarming, but he was “old fashioned”, “has old fashioned ideas”, “different”, “hard to understand” and “difficult to get along with”, “watch out for him”, and etc. Like I said, nothing too alarming or specific, just a quiet mocking tone that described a marginalized figure who really didn’t “belong” in the college, but there he was and everyone had to put up with him. I’m sure everyone knows how these things work in the sophisticated, suave, slay with a soft word, ivy covered halls of academia.
Now for the punch line: I found out later what it was that everyone was hinting about him. He was a Christian who took his faith seriously. He actually believed the Bible is God’s Word. A rare person in that day at that college.
I became a Christian after graduation (through reading the Bible), and the- mystery-of-a-misunderstood-lecture cleared up: on the first day of his Introduction to Logic class he discussed the Greek origin of the word “logic” from “logos”. In that lecture he referenced the passage from John 1:1 as an example of the range of the word’s usage. This lecture stood out in my memory because I wasn’t able to make heads nor tails of it, I couldn’t even take meaningful notes. And this had puzzled me because I was an excellent and copious note taker. But that lecture was completely unintelligible to me, it sounded like a rushing of wind and nothing more. I was actually troubled and confused by it.
I later found out why. Paul in I Corinthians 2:14 wrote, “But the natural man receiveth not the things of the Spirit of God: for they are foolishness unto him: neither can he know them, because they are spiritually discerned.(KJV)”
That described me when hearing that lecture. I couldn’t understand his Bible reference, it sounded silly, and I went away with a big question mark and no notes. After I came to know Jesus Christ as my savior I then understood that lecture somewhat (after a remove of about 3 years).
I went back and visited with this Professor. He knew what other professors thought and said about him. He voiced not one single complaint, but had rather a clear and simple appraisal of his relationships with other professors. His life at that college was a testimony to firm confident faith in Jesus Christ, never cowed by, nor becoming resentful of, the nay saying and the “behind the hand” derision and rejection by fellow professors. An admirable man, an admirable faith.
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