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Sneaky Telemarketers
My Rant | January 15, 2011 | me

Posted on 01/15/2011 8:18:03 AM PST by tuffydoodle

Have telemarketers found a way around the do not call list? I have been getting calls from telemarketers where they always ask for the wrong name. When I reply that they have the wrong number, they say, "well, maybe you can help me." The first time it happened, I listened for a minute, wondering why this person on my phone would be asking a stranger for help. When I realized what they were up to, I simply hung up. I've had several calls since, with the caller using the same tactic. Anybody else have any experience with this scam?


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KEYWORDS: donotcall; phone; phonecalls; scam; telemarketer
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1 posted on 01/15/2011 8:18:06 AM PST by tuffydoodle
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To: tuffydoodle

The Do Not Call list does not require names, just phone numbers, so I don’t see how this is a workaround. The best workaround is a foreign company doing the calling.


2 posted on 01/15/2011 8:20:21 AM PST by Dr. Sivana (There is no salvation in politics.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Simple solution... don’t pick up the phone (assuming you have Caller ID) if you do not recognize the caller. If they really want to talk to you they will leave a message.


3 posted on 01/15/2011 8:21:52 AM PST by pnh102 (Regarding liberalism, always attribute to malice what you think can be explained by stupidity. - Me)
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To: tuffydoodle

Do you have caller ID? If so, do you answer calls from names you do not recognize? That could be your first problem.

If I don’t recognize a caller’s name, or if it says “Unknown Caller” I lift the phone and hit on and off in that order very quickly.

Eliminates a lot of useless calls-—especially from politicians......as well as from people wanting to sell you something, or wanting you to donate to something, etc etc. Also, the caller can’t leave a recorded message.

My family and friends call me on my cell phone.


4 posted on 01/15/2011 8:24:51 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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To: Dr. Sivana
I have gotten those call too. Recently in a new twist, solicitors are using software to hijack legitimate cell phone users real phone numbers. The number that shows up in your caller ID is a real person's cell phone & not the solicitors number.

I try to let the poor person know their cell # has been hijacked. It's only happened a couple of times but is becoming more common.

5 posted on 01/15/2011 8:26:32 AM PST by call meVeronica
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To: pnh102

The only problem with that is I have children in college and they sometimes will call using a school phone or friends phone. I’m always afraid to ignore a call in case it’s an emergency.


6 posted on 01/15/2011 8:26:50 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: basil

I have 2 phone lines, one goes to my property gate. I have no way of knowing if it’s someone at my gate or a phone call so I need to answer. Also, as I said before, with kids living in colleges out of town, they will sometimes call from unknown numbers and I’m afraid to miss an emergency call.


7 posted on 01/15/2011 8:30:04 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

No but we have some ‘credit card’ protection company calling twice a week, sometimes twice a day, and it does no good to tell them to take you off the list. And we are on the Do NOT CALL list.


8 posted on 01/15/2011 8:31:42 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: call meVeronica

My auto mechanic lost his cell phone, so he got a new one while keeping the same number, and switched carriers. I got a phone call from his old phone! So I guess phone numbers aren’t that secure.


9 posted on 01/15/2011 8:34:17 AM PST by Excellence (Buy Progresso, take off the label, write "not halal," mail to Campbell's soup company.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Buddy of mine worked out a good solution for when you get tricked into taking a telemarketing call. One of those little air horns they sell for use on boats. Most telemarketers wear headsets...


10 posted on 01/15/2011 8:35:15 AM PST by bigbob
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To: basil

Our home phone is transferred to the cell phone...and hubby will answer any call. He does hang up on pols, and sales, charity he is beginning to ask if they are paid solicitors and to take us off the list.

I’d just hang up on all of them.


11 posted on 01/15/2011 8:35:38 AM PST by GailA (2012 rally cry DEMOCRATS and RINOS are BAD for the USA!)
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To: tuffydoodle

http://www.whojustcalledhere.com/

Have the number handy?


12 posted on 01/15/2011 8:37:01 AM PST by EBH ( Whether you eat your bread or see it vanish into a looter's stomach, is an absolute.)
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To: tuffydoodle
We have gone total cellphone; I have DSL and did hook up a phone for a short time about a week ago and it started ringing off the hook. I did not answer it as once you answer it, they know it's a "person" and they'll never stop.

I don't have "messaging" on that phone, it's bare bones and except for having it on the DSL ticket, I never use it.

But it is on the no-call list and I wondered why I'm getting all these calls.

So, I unplugged it again.

They now tell me that you can "unbundle" DSL from the phone, and as soon as "magicjack" institutes portability of numbers so I can keep my great phone number, I'm unbundling and getting rid of the phone side. That'll save me a bunch. The "magic jack" is just for the occasional fax I send or receive.
13 posted on 01/15/2011 8:38:07 AM PST by FrankR (The Evil Are Powerless If The Good Are Unafraid! - R. Reagan)
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To: tuffydoodle

We are on the Do Not Call list yet “Cardholder Services” relentlessly calls. Of course it’s a recorded message, press “9” to speak with a customer service representative.

I press 9 and when I get a live human I tell them things I cannot post here.

Phone systems should have a password system where if you call the number you have to enter a password to make the phone ring, no password, no ring, hello voicemail.


14 posted on 01/15/2011 8:46:10 AM PST by TSgt (Colonel Allen West & Michele Bachman - 2012 POTUS Dream Team Ticket!)
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To: bigbob

That is a fabulous idea! How funny.


15 posted on 01/15/2011 8:46:40 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

Some telemarketers are using various loopholes in the law (i.e. it’s OK to call someone with whom you have an “existing business relationship” and they stretch that to the breaking point).

Others are simply violating the law, and to heck with the consequences.

Very annoying and frustrating, but if I can’t ID and avoid the call beforehand and I end up on the line with one of ‘em I simply hang up immediately, and with ZERO guilt.

I installed that phone line for MY convenience and I pay the bill. I owe a stranger who calls me for a handout or a survey or a sale absolutely NOTHING, not even the courtesy of an explanation or listening to their pitch.

And as far as charities — Mrs. Tick and I give liberally, but we do NOT make our decisions on to whom to give based on cold phone calls. So I tell them that and hang up on them.

FRegards


16 posted on 01/15/2011 8:47:05 AM PST by Nervous Tick (Trust in God, but row away from the rocks!)
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To: tuffydoodle
Let it ring if you don't know the number. Scammers are flouting the Do Not Call law. They get away with it. Legitimate callers leave a message.

You can also check numbers on Who Called.US. LOTS of complaints.

17 posted on 01/15/2011 8:48:28 AM PST by DJ MacWoW (America! The wolves are at your door! How will you answer the knock?)
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To: tuffydoodle

Since you seemed to have already figured it out and obviously know what the solution is:

What exactly was your question again?

=8-)


18 posted on 01/15/2011 8:49:21 AM PST by =8 mrrabbit 8=
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To: TSgt

I’m just not getting any calls where they know me by name. They always ask for a different name and when I say they have the wrong number, it’s the same reply, “well, maybe you can help me.” No one else is having this happen? It’s happened to me 4 or 5 times in the last month.


19 posted on 01/15/2011 8:49:26 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: =8 mrrabbit 8=

read post 19.


20 posted on 01/15/2011 8:50:51 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: EBH

the website charges money to look up a phone number...


21 posted on 01/15/2011 9:02:17 AM PST by estrogen (2012 can't come soon enough)
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To: bigbob

I knew someone who loaded his revolver with blanks

Would squeeze off a few rounds into telephone to get rid
of annoying telemarketers......


22 posted on 01/15/2011 9:05:21 AM PST by njslim
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To: tuffydoodle

The calls I have been getting lately are a bit different. They call on Monday and ask about my business hours. I give them the hours and Tuesday I get a call saying my phone skills are great and for a few hundred bucks I can buy in to some marketing company. (So I can start calling people and annoying them too)


23 posted on 01/15/2011 9:05:29 AM PST by cableguymn
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To: tuffydoodle

You could also answer and act very interested, but say “....wait just a minute while I get a pen and paper”. Then lay the phone down and walk away. Come back a few minutes later and see if they’re still there..hehehe


24 posted on 01/15/2011 9:08:02 AM PST by rickomatic
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To: tuffydoodle

Same happened to me. Once I realized it was a telemarketer, I toyed with her a little bit, then hung up.


25 posted on 01/15/2011 9:09:07 AM PST by theDentist (fybo; qwerty ergo typo : i type, therefore i misspelll)
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To: bigbob

Love it! Maybe just thinking they’ll be horned might give them cause to think about it. I know, wishful thinking.


26 posted on 01/15/2011 9:18:05 AM PST by TribalPrincess2U (demonicRATS= Obama's Mosque, taxes, painful death. Is this what you want?)
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To: theDentist

Have you seen this guy messin’ with telemarketers? He’s a riot.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uYHSvFWN44s


27 posted on 01/15/2011 9:18:41 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

I have one of these, purchased 3 years ago and it works.

http://www.privacycorps.com/products/?id=20

I have no affiliation with his company.

One word of advice, you must, connect it to your telephone “Demarc” which is the first tel “jack” that appears in your home. If you are not sure where the Demarc is located, call someone who wires houses or tel-co.

The only thing that gets by is “incoming call” on your caller ID

You also need an AC outlet near by.

any questions, PM me


28 posted on 01/15/2011 9:18:59 AM PST by tiger-one (The night has a thousand eyes)
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To: rickomatic

hahahaha that’s a good one, too!


29 posted on 01/15/2011 9:19:46 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zjNw-J7uK6o

here’s another video (telemarketer revenge type)


30 posted on 01/15/2011 9:22:54 AM PST by Troublemaker
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To: Dr. Sivana

I usually rely on the caller ID and don’t answer. When it gets really annoying, I will pick up and pretend that I can’t hear them. Saying Hello over their speil usually causes them to hang up.


31 posted on 01/15/2011 9:27:15 AM PST by anoldafvet (Term limits now.)
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To: EBH
Have the number handy?

Yea but I don't want to have to pay for the information........

32 posted on 01/15/2011 9:29:00 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only thing Super Glue is good for is gluing your fingers together.....)
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To: bigbob

Those little air horns are an excellent tool to slow an intruder down while you get to a weapon. Think in layers of response ... air horn, 25 foot wasp spray, .45 auto loader, shotgun with 2 and 4 duplex, 5.56 nato rounds concentrated on target. I foyu get to the last layer, you’re under siege and could use a few claymores you forgot to arm.


33 posted on 01/15/2011 9:29:34 AM PST by MHGinTN (Some, believing they can't be deceived, it's nigh impossible to convince them when they're deceived.)
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To: tuffydoodle
 
 
I have a system that works quite well in keeping the phones silent. I answer every call and ones that have a human on the other end, I tell them the magic words "Remove my number from your call list and do not call it again" - seems to work better than some "list". It works every time with legit businesses - as for "other" sorts of businesses and scammers that use recordings, I usually bang the pound and/or 9 keys and they hang right up. Those sort of calls are very sporadic and tend to vanish after a while. I think the stinky economy has put a dent into those sort of operations since there doesn't seem to be as many as there once were (at least to me). For the really obnoxious scammer types, like those who may call multiple times in a single day, I screencap the Caller ID info into a JPEG file and forward it in to the state AG's office as part of an official complaint. Has worked so far in putting the kabosh on those sort of clowns.
 
 

34 posted on 01/15/2011 9:34:53 AM PST by lapsus calami (What's that stink? Code Pink ! ! And their buddy Murtha, too!)
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To: tuffydoodle

The real answer is caller ID AND an answering machine (NOT central voicemail) — you can listen to the caller leaving a message on your answering machine, while they are leaving the message, i.e. monitor it.

Let friends know that if they call from unfamiliar numbers or block their number to start leaving a message, then if you recognize them, you pick up.

Avoids running to the phone, just to find it’s a telemarketer and the annoyance of having to deal with them, and you don’t miss any calls you do want to answer.

If you recognize the number you pick up, if not, wait another minute to see if you recognize the person leaving the message, otherwise no need to pick up.

It works like a charm.


35 posted on 01/15/2011 9:36:44 AM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: tuffydoodle

“I have no way of knowing if it’s someone at my gate or a phone call”

If you had caller ID, you would know whether someone is calling from the phone at your gate.


36 posted on 01/15/2011 9:39:35 AM PST by Innovative (Weakness is provocative.)
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To: Troublemaker

Oh great, now I’m stuck on youtube watching the telemarketer revenge videos. LOL That Tom Mabe one is classic.

Try this one: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Pw9ZbjSvdxs&NR=1


37 posted on 01/15/2011 9:43:12 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: Innovative

We only have caller ID on line one, not the gate line. The telemarketers are using my gate line. But I was actually only asking if anyone else was getting these types of solicitor calls where they act like they have the wrong number.


38 posted on 01/15/2011 9:47:36 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

My phone has Call Blocker. I add the offending phone numbers to my Call Blocker List and whenever they call they hear the phone ring once, then a busy signal and then the phone automatically hangs up. On my end it rings once and on the screen it says “Caller Blocked.”


39 posted on 01/15/2011 9:47:54 AM PST by SVTCobra03 (You can never have enough friends, horsepower or ammunition.)
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To: Hot Tabasco

You can find out without paying. Just type in Area Code-—in your search box. I always find one that says “Did you receive a phone call from -—?” There is a place to put the number - you don’t always find what it is, but there is usually some discussion, other people who’ve received th same call, and you’ll almost always get your answer.

By the way, hanging up does no good. Most marketing software gives the caller three choices - Continue, Schedule callback, or Refused. Hanging up is not viewed as refused - until you say the word no to them, they will continue to call.


40 posted on 01/15/2011 9:59:30 AM PST by smalltownslick
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To: call meVeronica

Wouldn’t that defeat the purpose of the call? If I got a call from a salesman using a hijacked number, I’d slam down the phone so fast and I’d never do business with them and their company would remain firmly etched in my memory.


41 posted on 01/15/2011 10:03:38 AM PST by FrdmLvr (Death to tyrants)
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To: tuffydoodle

It sounds more like a bill collector trying to catch up with a dead beat that gave out your number on a credit app.


42 posted on 01/15/2011 10:04:10 AM PST by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: tuffydoodle

Got rid of the house phone about 2 years ago and just use my cell. Haven’t had a solicitor since.


43 posted on 01/15/2011 10:04:46 AM PST by Hatteras
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To: Dem Guard

It’s not a bill collector, I’ve listened to them long enough to know that they aren’t collecting.


44 posted on 01/15/2011 10:06:22 AM PST by tuffydoodle (Shut up voices, or I'll poke you with a Q-Tip again.)
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To: tuffydoodle

I label any telemarketing call as a “Z” on my cell phone and never answer them again. You can also block a list of
numbers from ever calling you again on many cell provider
log in sites. I got rid of my land line years ago.


45 posted on 01/15/2011 10:19:50 AM PST by Dem Guard (Obama's 57 States = The Organization of The Islamic Conference (OIC).)
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To: Hatteras
Got rid of the house phone about 2 years ago and just use my cell.

I did the same but made the mistake of keeping same number on my new cell. It wasn't until I decided to get my number changed that the calls stopped.

As a side note, I tracked down a telemarketer's number on the internet to a site where many folks were complaining about the calls. Someone there had managed to track the bogus company to some guy in florida who's been responsible for a number of scams and they even listed his current company, the phone number and his home address........LOL!

46 posted on 01/15/2011 10:20:11 AM PST by Hot Tabasco (The only thing Super Glue is good for is gluing your fingers together.....)
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To: tuffydoodle

The remedy I use for telemarketers is this: “I’m sorry... Can you hold on just a moment?” Then I put the phone down and forget about it. Later on I’ll remember to go back and hang it up, but in the meantime I feel good knowing I wasted at least a little of their time and temporarily tied up one of their lines.


47 posted on 01/15/2011 10:24:09 AM PST by Lancey Howard
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To: FrankR

I got magic jack this year and I get to keep the phone number wherever I go. It’s one of the selling points.

If you move, you just pack up your jack and plug it back in once you have your computer set up. It should work fine.

The only thing is you have to let the 911 feature know your new address.


48 posted on 01/15/2011 10:29:06 AM PST by Persevero (Homeschooling for Excellence since 1992)
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To: pnh102
I receive at least one call a day ... robo-message left on my answering machine asking if I have clothes to donate.

When I attempt to return call in the evening after work, using the number on my caller id... I receive a "cannot connect" type message... basically there's a call block not allowing the donation company's call center to receive calls (they can only make outgoing calls). Therefore I have to be home and actually answer the phone to tell them "take my number off the list."

I hate these companies... I wish a Mt. Etna-type volcano would open up under the call centers and melt them away.

49 posted on 01/15/2011 10:35:24 AM PST by Trajan88 (www.bullittclub.com)
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To: GailA

Well—it looks like you have to take all calls..........We have 5 kids and 11 grandkids, all of whom have our cell numbers, so we don’t have your problem.


50 posted on 01/15/2011 10:38:16 AM PST by basil (It's time to rid the country of "Gun Free Zones" aka "Killing Fields")
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