Ah ... so I did. Thanks.
MMmmm ... crow. It's what's for breakfast.
Posted on 02/22/2011 8:22:54 PM PST by Space Moose
Well, it gets to the heart of the matter. Teachers are nothing more than overpaid babysitters.
dear moose, pls copy and paste what 27 posted in #60 and send it reply all to the “teacher” and her pals.
Wow! I posted this, wrapped up family time and went to bed. In the meantime, you guys did great!
The one about the retirement? Sure, it is what Wisconsin is proposing. Easy to find. Just search.
Do teachers want to be treated as professionals or as line workers? I am sick to death of hearing about the papers they grade and the planning. What do they think other professionals do, just show up on the job? if you want hourly pay then work on the line somewhere, but stop the bellyaching about the time spent outside of school. NO OTHER profession gets 3 months off, where anyone so inclined could supplement their annual salaries.
Two-Thirds of Wisconsin Public-School 8th Graders Can’t Read Proficiently—Despite Highest....
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http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/2678043/posts
FWIW ... 240-180=60 ... that's equal to two months, not three. I'm just sayin'
you divided wrong. 60/20 working days per month = 3 months
Ah ... so I did. Thanks.
MMmmm ... crow. It's what's for breakfast.
I do not think anyone is suggesting that teacher’s salaries be reduced to minimum wage. If left to the market like other professions teachers salaries would be paid commensurate with the value they produce. Good teachers should get more money than mediocre teachers. However the unions have totally messed up this idea with tenure and have resisted attempts to evaluate teacher performance and giving merit pay to those who are better teachers. Add to this the educational establishment that forces anyone wanting to teach to spend much of their college class time in next to worthless education classes and not the academic areas they want to teach. It is no wonder that the educational performance of our kids is lagging far behind the rest of the world.
I checked around a bit on the internet just now and that e-mail letter has been floating around (at least) from May 2010. (found a topix thread)
Again, I think this is a fabulous idea, change the structure of teachers pay to full commission like a hairdresser (I suppose they can even jockey for tips - since they seek extra-monetary appreciation)
We pay almost $4K in property taxes - most of that money goes to schools - we don’t have any kids.
It’s like forcing a bald man to pay for a haircut (In this glorious pay structure scenario they want us to buy)Let those with kids/hair pay for their education/hair styles.
Those who are inadequate or new as teachers/stylists can hone their crafts at subsidized venues - a la ‘Cost Cutters’
-You get what you pay for... (at least it won’t be a surprise like it is now when kids in 10th grade have a 4th grade reading level)
I hope it catches on! :>)
But taxpayers actually fork over about $11,000 per child. That generates $330,000 for a class of 30. Maybe the ‘teacher’ should be asking where all that money is going?
Sorry, but the teacher's point is sound. I know quite a few teachers, and they tend to be hard workers who put in a lot of long hours.
I would absolutely love to see a TV reality show featuring folks who think teachers have it easy, taking over a classroom for a few months. Most of them would die in a puddle.
Unions only protect the worst workers. Good employees will always be valued.
No one is saying that a teachers job is easy or that it is not stressful or demanding. But the educator who wrote this little piece should be embarrassed.
In 2008, the average per student expenditure in Wisconsin was $10,791. Multiplying that by 30 yields $323,730. All borne by the taxpayer - from the 80 year-old homeowner to the family of 10. So, when the babsitter looks out across his/her room, someone has paid a lot of money for that babysitter to do their job. Their salary and bennys are a portion of that expenditure.
And that is a 2008 figure. It is certainly higher now. Interestingly, the average per student expenditure in Wisconsin for 1998 was $4,956 per pupil. Adjusted for inflation, that only amounts to $6,546. So, where is the rest going? And what has been received for it?
Actually, there are a lot of people who say that. Some of them post at FR.
True, you are right - but I am not one of ‘em. A good many of my family are very diligent educators. They work hard and are very conscientious.
That said, the little math problem presented is rife with a flawed premise.
Sweet!
Depends on the context in which it was written. Based on comments above, it was not written with the present situation in mind.
i found the fact that a teacher needs a calculator to do simple multiplication hilarious!
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