Posted on 02/24/2011 4:22:11 PM PST by blade_tenner
From the proposed law:
'Prenatal murder' means the intentional removal of a fetus from a woman with an intention other than to produce a live birth or to remove a dead fetus; provided, however, that if a physician makes a medically justified effort to save the lives of both the mother and the fetus and the fetus does not survive, such action shall not be prenatal murder. Such term does not include a naturally occurring expulsion of a fetus known medically as a 'spontaneous abortion' and popularly as a 'miscarriage' so long as there is no human involvement whatsoever in the causation of such event. (c) The act of prenatal murder is contrary to the health and well-being of the citizens of this state and to the state itself and is illegal in this state in all instances. (d) Any person committing prenatal murder in this state shall be guilty of a felony and, upon conviction, shall be punished as provided in subsection (d) of Code Section 16-5-1.
We have a very long way to go on the issue of pre-born citizens. Most all of the MSM reporting has been very dirisive on the Georgia Rep.'s efforts. The more detailed reporting has been from far-left pubs such as Huff-Po and Mother Jones. That tells me they are taking this seriously, and are putting in the big gun efforts to shoot it down.
That the reporting is negative is to be expected. What takes me aback is that many in this forum share that same attitude. If we don't take preborn life seriously, then we'll continue electing "pro-life" politicians who need prolife support for election, then go on to ignore the prolife battles in office.
The only women who should be concerned are married women... and if you are child-bearing age, being prepared to bring a child into the world in a healthy manner should be your number 1 priority. Otherwise you are living in sin, and a law such as this one is one way to force responsibility on people. From the code:
SECTION 2.14. Said title is further amended by revising subsection (a) of Code Section 31-10-18, relating to registration of spontaneous fetal deaths, as follows: "(a) A report of spontaneous fetal death for each spontaneous fetal death which occurs in this state shall be filed with the local registrar of the county in which the delivery occurred within 72 hours after such delivery in accordance with this Code section unless the place of fetal death is unknown, in which case a fetal death certificate shall be filed in the county in which the dead fetus was found within 72 hours after such occurrence. All induced terminations of pregnancy shall be reported in the manner prescribed in Code Section 31-10-19. Preparation and filing of reports of spontaneous fetal death shall be as follows: (1) When a dead fetus is delivered in an institution, the person in charge of the institution or that person's designated representative shall prepare and file the report; (2) When a dead fetus is delivered outside an institution, the physician in attendance at or immediately after delivery shall prepare and file the report; (3) When a spontaneous fetal death required to be reported by this Code section occurs without medical attendance at or immediately after the delivery or when inquiry is required by Article 2 of Chapter 16 of Title 45, the 'Georgia Death Investigation Act,' the proper investigating official shall investigate the cause of fetal death and shall prepare and file the report within 30 days; and (4) When a spontaneous fetal death occurs in a moving conveyance and the fetus is first removed from the conveyance in this state or when a dead fetus is found in this state and the place of fetal death is unknown, the fetal death shall be reported in this state. The place where the fetus was first removed from the conveyance or the dead fetus was found shall be considered the place of fetal death."
Really? I read just about every pro-life thread on FR and post a good many of them and I don't recall ever seeing you on pro-life threads.
Now, I did find a recent post by you were you suggest that post-abortive women should be executed, is that what you're talking about?
Miscarriage should be treated exactly like finding a body of a child - possible murder.
Most women who have miscarriages are devastated by them, and you want to treat them like criminals?
My overall impression of you is that you are a "concern troll" who is saying outrageous things in an attempt to make the pro-life movement look bad.
No, they're PERSONS, which the Constitution explicitly protects.
I replied to a post saying that we should treat the unborn “like any other citizen”.
The unborn are not citizens.
As I said, they are persons.
This is an explicit distinction made in Section One of the Fourteenth Amendment.
"All persons born or naturalized in the United States, and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, are citizens of the United States and of the state wherein they reside. No state shall make or enforce any law which shall abridge the privileges or immunities of citizens of the United States; nor shall any state deprive any person of life, liberty, or property, without due process of law; nor deny to any person within its jurisdiction the equal protection of the laws."
Citizens have privileges and immunities that non-citizen persons do not have. But all persons within every jurisdiction have God-given unalienable rights which must be protected -- citizen and non-citizen alike.
I think you’re a troll.
Post 13 Monday, January 24, 2011 9:07:13 AM by blade_tenner
Let me repeat: the Free Republic website celebrates the murderers of children.
Absolutely - just as one/the Fed/the State cannot imprison indefinitely without trial or murder a non U.S. citizen (absent a state of War). They have unalienable rights that should be recognized.
But they are not citizens.
That was my point. ‘Treated like every other citizen’ is a faulty formulation because they are NOT citizens.
‘Treated with human dignity as a person’ would have gone without remark or criticism from me.
Yes. I saw that one.
There’s more.
Why would you say something like that to a woman who is still mourning a miscarriage? It’s needlessly cruel.
That being said, I observed some time ago that "life begins at conception" legislation could result in miscarraiges being investigated as potential homicides by prosecutors that were either overzealous or had an axe to grind with someone.
I was told it was a "strawman" argument and that such a thing could never happen.
I expect I'd have been told the same thing 35 years ago if I'd suggested the when Richard Nixon proposed creation of the EPA they'd try to declare carbon dioxide to be "air pollution".
IATZ!!!!
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That doesn't make any sense.
Post 28 Monday, January 24, 2011 9:27:21 AM by blade_tenner
Most women who miscarry in this country just flush the "tissue" down the toilet. I've never been to a funeral for a "miscarriage". We don't treat the unborn seriously at all in this country.
Sounds to me like a lib pretending to be "conservative".
He’s gone.
He was NASTY!
He certainly wasn’t pretending to like women.
Very bizarre.
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